I want to play moar

[Yitzi]

Also, air power can't 'take high-value bases' just like that, needles and choppers simply can't capture bases.

They can, however, get rid of the defenders after which you can use a small ground force to take and destroy the base.  I'll post a separate topic in Theory of Everything about the effects of base obliteration.

[Kirov]

They can, however, get rid of the defenders after which you can use a small ground force to take and destroy the base. 

True, but this is the part where it's not OP. You need to bring those ground units to smash things around and such raids are not that easy. Also, an attacker wants to keep at least some bases as launch pads for his ongoing offensive. What might get razed is bases with Projects and I definitely want to keep that. It's a good thing to be able to destroy HSA.

All in all, obliteration hasn't been an issue in any games I've played or heard of. I did obliterate a few bases and those memories are fond to me... But it's definitely legit tactics in my book.

[Yitzi]

True, but this is the part where it's not OP. You need to bring those ground units to smash things around and such raids are not that easy.

If you only need a few ground units, it's a lot easier.

Also, an attacker wants to keep at least some bases as launch pads for his ongoing offensive.

Unless he's just trying to do damage rather than a full conquest (either because there's a vendetta, or because it's only 2 players.)

What might get razed is bases with Projects and I definitely want to keep that. It's a good thing to be able to destroy HSA.

Technically, you can destroy a base without obliterating, it just takes longer.  A base which is fought over often enough will naturally be destroyed, as it loses 1 population each time it's captured.
But why is it so necessary to be able to destroy projects?  Especially HSA...while it's certainly a powerful project, taking HSA away from him for a few turns until he can take it back will probably be enough to do the most important of what you wanted to do to him with probe teams.  Or you could just forget about probe teams and wage a conventional war, using the advantage that he spent 300 minerals more than you.  (And if that's not enough, changing the prices of projects is an easy mod.)

All in all, obliteration hasn't been an issue in any games I've played or heard of.

So you've never encountered:
-Someone taking an underdefended base with a high-mobility force, selling the most expensive facility, and immediately obliterating it to prevent recapture?
-Someone obliterating their own bases to prevent them from falling into the hands of the enemy, and doing so often enough that even someone playing Miriam wouldn't bother trying to conquer them in a game with a lot of players?

And you have encountered people using multi-turn sieges (rather than attacker-heavy armies or mind control) to take valuable bases, not afraid that the enemy will obliterate it to avoid losing it?

[t_ras]

If the settings are final I'll try to create the scenario this weekend.

[funbot]

If the settings are final I'll try to create the scenario this weekend.

Settings are good to go. Only changes that might come are only tinsy tweakings on houserules, but those shouldnt be affecting on scenario creation, atleast as far as i would know.

[t_ras]

Scenario ready. The scenario is oriented for long run factions (builders), since these are the factions you chose.
Some details:
1 - The scenario is probably more then 50% land, but devided in 7 main iseland, one for each faction
2 - There are many smaller empty islands, most of them containing the ruins (just to make you run for them )
3 - All main iselands have monsun jungle at the "pole" side of your landing and uranium flats at the  "equator" side
4 - factions:
  Funbot - Peacekeepers
  Kirov - Morgans
  ronin - Uni
  Bodissey - Drones
  AI - Gaia, Cult, Consiusness (all tracend)
5 - you all get 3 pods+3 scouts+ 3 formers (AI get 4)
6 - All the AIs are set to peacefull, but They are pre pacted and programmed to team up agains humans
7 - you are not suposed to have eahc other commlinks untill you meet

If it is all Ok with every one, please send me your passwords and Ill send the game.

[funbot]

Scenario ready. The scenario is oriented for long run factions (builders), since these are the factions you chose.
Some details:
1 - The scenario is probably more then 50% land, but devided in 7 main iseland, one for each faction
2 - There are many smaller empty islands, most of them containing the ruins (just to make you run for them )
3 - All main iselands have monsun jungle at the "pole" side of your landing and uranium flats at the  "equator" side
4 - factions:
  Funbot - Peacekeepers
  Kirov - Morgans
  ronin - Uni
  Bodissey - Drones
  AI - Gaia, Cult, Consiusness (all tracend)
5 - you all get 3 pods+3 scouts+ 3 formers (AI get 4)
6 - All the AIs are set to peacefull, but They are pre pacted and programmed to team up agains humans
7 - you are not suposed to have eahc other commlinks untill you meet

If it is all Ok with every one, please send me your passwords and Ill send the game.

Humble thanks for your effort , cant wait to get my hands on your latest work.

[roninscg]

I like it and settings are ok for me.

Pass send to you PM

[Bodissey]

Pass sent also. Thanks for the setup.

[Muffle Man]

Hey guise can I join too

[Buster's Uncle]

Welcome, MM. 

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That's two new people posting in MP in as many days.  Should we try starting them out playing each other?

[Muffle Man]

'Ello mate

I would be up for that.

[t_ras]

Let me try to arragne somthing

[t_ras]

TTT is ready with the firts turn.
Enjoy!