Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Command Nexus => Topic started by: Mart on March 04, 2015, 07:38:23 PM

Title: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 04, 2015, 07:38:23 PM
SMAX game
Yitzi patch 3.4

(http://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=0B8Q6s6tA4mcbdWN6ZEtwcE5mS0U)

Commlink:
FactionPlayer
Morgan IndustriesKurvivor
Nautilus PiratesKirov
The Cybernetic ConsciousnessMallaxOZ
Gaian StepsonsVishniac
The Free DronesPeter Gray
Manifold CaretakersAI
Manifold UsurpersAI

Planet settings:
Sizestandard, 40x80
Orbit90 million miles (average)
Ocean coverage50-70%, + land design
Erosive forcesaverage
Native lifeaverage
Cloud coveraverage
Difficultytranscend

Rules:
Standard pbem rules
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=1519.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=1519.0)
with special:
1) Weapons above strength 4 on choppers are banned
2) Releasing mindworms to the wild is permitted
3) The Empath Guild and The Cloudbase Academy SPs are set to destroyed

The setup thread (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=14744.0)

Good luck!

-------
Please check, if both SP mentioned are indeed set to destroyed.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 05, 2015, 11:46:58 AM
No change to the attached file is needed. The alien factions are in the game, I only forgot to write their faction names in the table, which is now done.
You can play from the attached file.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 05, 2015, 07:45:52 PM
Good luck everyone.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 05, 2015, 07:48:19 PM
Thanks!
What about the setup: everything on average?
How much ocean?
Do we have to worry about stockpiling or not? (never really understood this one)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 05, 2015, 08:13:55 PM
Also, I have a little problem.
The interface and the text don't take their normal surface on screen. I have a large screen (see picture).
I can play but it's not comfortable; is it anything I can change in my computer setup?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 05, 2015, 08:17:32 PM
I will add these settings to the first post, but yes, it is all average as was in the setup thread. Native life is average, but I took that into account for Gaians, and cannot say more about it... :)
The map was, however, somewhat engineered so to create world adequate for the setting of 5 human players from which one is naval faction.
The challenge from the aliens is not so predictable, they are not particularly enhanced, as for factional parameters, but their starting locations are made in a certain way - which is part of that world design.

Stockpiling bug is no longer there in Yitzi patch, as far as I recall. This makes using build queues less micromanaging.
So using it by inserting stockpile energy or leaving empty queue after facilities should give no benefit.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 05, 2015, 08:18:49 PM
Also, I have a little problem.
The interface and the text don't take their normal surface on screen. I have a large screen (see picture).
I can play but it's not comfortable; is it anything I can change in my computer setup?

You can turn off PRACX patch, just a moment, I will find what needs to be done...

========
According to description of PRACX 1.06:
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=14308.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=14308.0)
So for example my Alpha Centauri.ini has right now:

[PRACX]
Disabled=<DEFAULT>
and change to:
[PRACX]
Disabled=1

but PRACX has useful features like zooming with scroll wheel, moving map around with right mouse button.
So an option is to play with ini file font size + larger zoom level. Can do the trick, however, there may be also working forcing specific resolution in PRACX, I haven't tried that. I increased font size to 16 and play with increased zoom level ("z" or scroll wheel) like 2 levels.

One more thing...
you switch between windowed-full screen modes by <TAB>
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 07, 2015, 02:05:39 AM
Native life is average, but I took that into account for Gaians, and cannot say more about it... :)
Yeah but Vishniac just posted a screenshot from his game... "The image is already under careful analysis, Chairman"
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 07, 2015, 02:39:12 AM
No, Lord Vishniac hasn't had an opportunity to issue any orders, as Captain Kirov hasn't provided his turn.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 07, 2015, 06:02:53 AM
Right: I was merely testing the Patch 3_4 and its functionalities.
Gaians may be reluctant to fight but careless they are not.  :D

Thanks, Mart: I disabled Pracx for the moment.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 07, 2015, 07:59:58 AM
Kirov... Bloody weekend! I want my first turn :P
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 07, 2015, 10:43:03 AM
A time will come when you'll hesitate to open your turn, dreading what Kirov could have been up to...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 09, 2015, 03:38:38 PM
Kirov... Bloody weekend! I want my first turn :P

I'm sorry! Here it goes for the Cyborgs.

Thanks again, Mart, good luck with loads of fun to other players, I hope I see you soon in-game. I am so lonely!  :wave:



Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 09, 2015, 11:09:38 PM
I got a few problems opening the file, and then a graphic bug. So vishniac you'll probably see some warning saying that the game was open several times.

It's fixed now. In fact, it's just that I didn't patched Yitzi 3.4 properly. I'm not used to, I'm on Gog version for Mac so I try not to touch anything in order to keep the game working!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 10, 2015, 04:16:16 PM
Blind research, ouch! (yes, I remembered someone talking about it)
Is it normal that I don't start with Centauri Ecology?

To the Drones.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 10, 2015, 04:29:32 PM
...
Is it normal that I don't start with Centauri Ecology?
...
No, it is not. And I somehow let it stay there not set right.

This qualifies the game for restart.

And I see also another thing I could do better.
The Drones can be checked also, and then, I could set the game to run again.
Also, I could add any bonusses that players so far got from unity pods. And set units in their locations, as they were at the end of 2101.

So for the restart, The Drones can be not played, just only open the turn and without moving units, see the rest.

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 10, 2015, 04:39:58 PM
There is a tool, which allows to open scenario from multiplayer save, it requires knowledge of all passwords - CMN tool, but I do not have it. So I have to make correction "manually."
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 10, 2015, 07:57:08 PM
Ok, the attached file should have corrections made:
- Gaians have Centauri Ecology
- Factions with Industrial Base have armor 2 prototyped (that one is easy to forget, for me)

I made also turns for four factions to Gaians with the same results of pods and unit movements.
You hopefully should see no difference...

Turn to The Free Drones.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 10, 2015, 08:52:20 PM
DO NOT USE THIS SAVE
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 10, 2015, 09:09:41 PM
DO NOT USE THIS SAVE
Ok, you can modify the post and detach the file: make no attachment during modification.
I am correcting the issue...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 10, 2015, 11:17:38 PM
Thanks :) Good to have you looking over our game. I feel much better when we have someone so helpful :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 10, 2015, 11:30:32 PM
And 2102 to CEO Kurvivor.
Hopefully, all issues are corrected now... :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 12, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Greetings and salutations once again
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 12, 2015, 08:37:34 PM
Guys, can we put the Mission Year at the end of the savename so it's easier to manage in the folder? Thanks.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 12, 2015, 09:49:33 PM
=> 2102
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 13, 2015, 06:07:32 AM
"Error reading file"

I tried downloading it again but same result.
Problem on my side or corrupt file?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 13, 2015, 12:00:32 PM
Mallax, please redo the turn, I believe that's the fastest option.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 13, 2015, 08:14:48 PM
"Error reading file"

I tried downloading it again but same result.
Problem on my side or corrupt file?

You see "error reading file" when loading the file, or after typing the password?

Because, I just try to launch the file, and it seems fine. The game ask me the password so I can't continue, but if on your side, you didn't even have been asked a password, it's a problem from your end.

As Kirov said, I'll replay the turn if we are out of options...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 13, 2015, 08:53:52 PM
It was before typing the password.
A third attempt worked. Let's go!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 14, 2015, 09:51:56 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 15, 2015, 07:41:07 PM
 Turn to ;ulrik;
Ahem. Our scouts recently found an unique curiosity - a crystallized worm boil. Although its cultural value is immense and incalculable,  we generoudly offer it to first buyer for measly 10 energy.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 15, 2015, 08:37:06 PM

Ahem. Our scouts recently found an unique curiosity - a crystallized worm boil. Although its cultural value is immense and incalculable,  we generoudly offer it to first buyer for measly 10 energy.

Send me a pigeon with your coordinates and I'm setting sail right away, matey! Arrrrr!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 15, 2015, 08:54:15 PM
To  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 16, 2015, 06:05:42 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 16, 2015, 10:02:55 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 16, 2015, 07:54:30 PM
 ;ulrik;
Sorry, i messed up the save
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 16, 2015, 07:59:18 PM
Onwards!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 16, 2015, 09:14:26 PM
To  ;hippy
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 17, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 17, 2015, 10:43:49 PM
Drones Liberation Front passes a save to decadent Morgan Planetary Bank. Btw., is there a way to change faction's name after the game started? It would be fun to change the name after Social Engineering operations or some events. For example, Miriam could lead Apocalyptic Church after a nuclear war or Data Angels could become Big Brother after implementing Planned Police State.

If I put a landmark will other players see it as well

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 18, 2015, 07:20:09 PM
Naming of landmark is a wellhouse of merchendising opportunities indeed.
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 18, 2015, 07:28:01 PM
Custom landmark names are visible to others. Sometimes I use them as post-it notes, but try to encode them in one way or another. As for faction names, go to Network > Customize Your Faction.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 18, 2015, 09:13:24 PM
 ;aki; Aki's personal log. Entry #1.

The arrival on the planet has been rough. The landing of Unity was a severe failure, as the others factions took their time to argue some details that my cyborgs really didn't care. As the result of the crash, we just know that some materials were lost, and it won't be possible to put heavy weapons on choppers... Nothing that cannot threat my plans of a beautiful Cybernetic Society.

In those first years, we establish a base and our first labs of research. We seek another luxuriant lands to create others. Happy new 2105, Cyborgs...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 18, 2015, 10:01:38 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 18, 2015, 11:38:30 PM
So far so good

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 24, 2015, 04:52:12 AM
Btw. did anyone finished a PBEM game before? :P
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 24, 2015, 05:50:26 AM
No.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 24, 2015, 10:12:09 AM
I once participated in a game where one of the players was eliminated in first 30 turns. Does that count?
Also. Sorry fr delay.
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 24, 2015, 10:32:19 AM
Btw. did anyone finished a PBEM game before? :P

I think I completed only one 4-player game back to back in my life. But it is because I took a lot of replacements back in the day, I finished several more games. However, most were dissolved in a natural, players-dying-of-old-age way. 2-player games are a good solution to that - the chances to finish are much higher and it's a good way to hone your skills. All in all, don't hold your breath whenever you join a 4-p game.


Guys, a friendly reminder - we are not allowed to conduct any in-game business until we make in-game contact, which most of the time is obvious to both players. If you didn't touch another player's unit/base, didn't buy his commlink or find it in a supply pod, please refrain from making pacts until you do so.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 24, 2015, 06:13:32 PM
Listen to the guy in the Power Armor! He speaks the truth! Hail to the President of the U.S. Enclave, last genetically pure humans on Earth! Please, could you point your plasma rifle in a different direction then my face? I have a sensitive skin. Please :P
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 24, 2015, 10:11:18 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on March 25, 2015, 12:08:34 AM
...
Guys, a friendly reminder - we are not allowed to conduct any in-game business until we make in-game contact, which most of the time is obvious to both players. If you didn't touch another player's unit/base, didn't buy his commlink or find it in a supply pod, please refrain from making pacts until you do so.

To make it easier, change can be made to alphax.txt file.
The one in your game folder from which you play patch 3.4,
make from:
Code: [Select]
1,       ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in net games {under -2 billion to over 2 billion}
1,       ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in hotseat/email games {under -2 billion to over 2 billion}
50,      ; Maximum % damage inflicted by arty versus units in base/bunker {0 to 100}
into:
Code: [Select]
1,       ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in net games {under -2 billion to over 2 billion}
0,       ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in hotseat/email games {under -2 billion to over 2 billion}
50,      ; Maximum % damage inflicted by arty versus units in base/bunker {0 to 100}

When you contact some faction, game will then show it, as in singleplayer game.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 25, 2015, 10:38:51 AM
Nice!
I made the change.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 25, 2015, 05:23:03 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 26, 2015, 01:17:27 AM
Yeah! This game is awesome. Guys, do you plan to spam cities intensively?

>>> [ ;morgan; ]
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 26, 2015, 09:02:28 PM
I must report my faction leader profile in-game is displayed wrong in most curious way
>>  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 26, 2015, 09:11:20 PM
Listen to the guy in the Power Armor! He speaks the truth!

Funny ya should say that as I just wanted t' talk t' ya, guys. Ya see, I need a cut o' t' booty ya all take from yer peasants, namely 10%. This will be yer full coverage against pillage and plunder. Much like car insurance, it’s obligatory for yer own good. And cherry on top? It’s totally tax deductible! Win-win, amirite? Together me boys, we can do more. Please proceed t' t' cash desk. Aaaarrrrrr!  :hunter:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 26, 2015, 09:27:16 PM
Guys, do you plan to spam cities intensively?

>>> [ ;morgan; ]

Me matey, no amount o' bases be enough. Keep pumping them out! And remember t' insure'em against plunder. Ya've sure got some pretty bases o'er there.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 26, 2015, 09:34:36 PM
I must report my faction leader profile in-game is displayed wrong in most curious way
>>  ;ulrik;


Guess someone's had too much gin tonight, har har.  T' cure t' yer sorrows be t' use Mart's Iniswap 2.2, which I wholeheartedly recommend. Aaarrrr!

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=10 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;cat=10)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 26, 2015, 10:10:06 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 26, 2015, 10:47:14 PM
I've started a new SP game while selecting AI players in the same order as in our MP game. Since I don't play SMAC otherwise, I don't need to bother with any third-party software.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 27, 2015, 11:54:20 AM
To the drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 27, 2015, 07:02:44 PM
8 turns and I'm already losing :D ->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 28, 2015, 06:11:31 AM
It can't be that bad.
-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 28, 2015, 02:23:18 PM
How can I help, Peter?  :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 28, 2015, 03:51:40 PM
8 turns and I'm already losing :D ->  ;morgan;

Already? I know your people weren't very assiduous in my lab courses on the Unity, it had to be hard to get away alone on the surface in those 8 past years. But in my souvenirs, you weren't that bad in engineering. Go ahead and create the Synthmetal thingy prototype you showed me on the ship!

=> To the Lady ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 28, 2015, 04:46:00 PM
And I'm still ahead of the Pirates.
I enjoy while it lasts...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 28, 2015, 09:52:00 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 29, 2015, 06:39:29 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 30, 2015, 01:40:18 PM
Ahoy!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 30, 2015, 09:31:24 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 31, 2015, 05:59:37 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on March 31, 2015, 10:17:11 AM
to Morganites
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 31, 2015, 10:39:53 AM
Glad to see a game progressing fast enough!  :)
With 5 humans players, I didn't think it was possible...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 31, 2015, 08:41:06 PM
Everyone is out for himself, and as a consequence the common cause prospers.
A stunning case for the power of concurention and free markets, i say.

P.S. Playing as Yang left me longing for some police oppression to quell those drones. I have forgotten just how pacifistic free trading and democracy are.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 31, 2015, 08:50:26 PM
Glad to see a game progressing fast enough!  :)
With 5 humans players, I didn't think it was possible...

Well, hate to be your mood-killer, but I'm afraid these 10 turns don't really show anything. The chances of fast game completion with all 5 players on board are next to zero. Damn, really sorry to say that. Although it's just too true.

Quote from: Kurvivor
I have forgotten just how pacifistic free trading and democracy are.

Thanks for reminding me that. In this game I was thinking about roleplaying a bit, I mean actual in-game decisions.  :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 31, 2015, 11:29:01 PM
Well, hate to be your mood-killer, but I'm afraid these 10 turns don't really show anything. The chances of fast game completion with all 5 players on board are next to zero. Damn, really sorry to say that. Although it's just too true.

I'm well aware of that, but still!

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 31, 2015, 11:45:20 PM
If timezone progression is respected, there's no reason we couldn't advance 1 turn a day.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 01, 2015, 01:03:01 AM
:) -> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 01, 2015, 09:24:40 PM
Somehow i feel like i am the reason for the most of slow-down (
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 01, 2015, 09:33:45 PM
and on.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 01, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 01, 2015, 11:35:51 PM
Now I'm not going out much so it's not a problem for me to check e-mail and make a turn once in ~12 hours. But I don't want anyone to feel bad about not being the fastest one. The reason I'm playing a PBEM game is because I want to RELAX, to have an additional SOMETHING that isn't time-consuming but can engage my mind for some time. A sand-box, a persistent online universe with its own history. I actually want this to unfold slowly so I can get attached and develop a relationship with a virtual state. Maybe one day someone will have to go away for a week or two. I don't mind. I just want the game to be finished and I don't mind if someone takes a break for a while. We are humans, we have our own lives and we are doing it for fun, right? For now it looks like we have a dedicated team. Thumbs up!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 01, 2015, 11:47:46 PM
No problem.
However it would be cool if someone away for more than 2 days warns in advance.

Gaians capture their first mindworm... Beware!
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 02, 2015, 12:17:18 AM
1) Do you guys think that with time we will be able to establish something like Planetary Map and Planetary News Network containing public, unclassified material? Would be nice to share some info, have a map were we can show off our borders, gains and loses.

2) It sounds that PBEMs are so rare to finish that there should a world-wide record of all finished games! :) Did anyone heard about PBEM with 7 players that was finished?

3) -> Capitalist swine  ;morgan; [edit: joke!]
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 02, 2015, 06:37:30 PM
I resent that!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 04, 2015, 12:10:27 PM
1) Do you guys think that with time we will be able to establish something like Planetary Map and Planetary News Network containing public, unclassified material? Would be nice to share some info, have a map were we can show off our borders, gains and loses.

2) It sounds that PBEMs are so rare to finish that there should a world-wide record of all finished games! :) Did anyone heard about PBEM with 7 players that was finished?

3) -> Capitalist swine  ;morgan; [edit: joke!]

Sorry guys, didn't notice the turn.

Re 1) I've never done something like this; we can think about it once we get this game established more.

Re 2) I've never heard about 7-p games, either; one of my other games is for 5-players and since 2013 we've managed to play like 90 turns; go figure.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 04, 2015, 02:00:33 PM
=> ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 04, 2015, 10:46:24 PM
I just wonder, because this is the last active place for SMAC fans, were there any finished games that involved more then two players? How about two players? ;) Just asking, I find it interesting. Because we can make a SMAC history if we remain dedicated to the game hahahaha :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 05, 2015, 08:36:38 AM
Blind research will be the most difficult thing to manage...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 05, 2015, 12:19:40 PM
 ;aki; Chiron is a unpredictable planet. The elements found on the surface were never seen before. The periodic elements table that our first graders learn has been radically changed. So yes, we can call it "Blind search", since our best physician really does not know what they are doing. But it's exciting and raising our hope for a better place.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 05, 2015, 03:41:18 PM
To  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 05, 2015, 04:25:52 PM
Maybe we can manage 2 turns today?
In other news, i am no longer wealthy
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 05, 2015, 05:31:45 PM
I'm going out tonight, maybe I'll do my next turn when I come back.

In other news, I'm officially wealthy.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 05, 2015, 05:41:51 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 06, 2015, 09:02:15 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 06, 2015, 10:11:21 PM
Anyone else checking for new turns at least twice a day? ;) If not, make sure to follow the thread and receive notifications on your e-mail about new posts. I know, it's total basics but I just want to make sure that everyone does what he can ;)
->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 06, 2015, 10:29:59 PM
I sure hope no mindworms will come after me
-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 06, 2015, 10:56:12 PM
Anyone else checking for new turns at least twice a day? ;) If not, make sure to follow the thread and receive notifications on your e-mail about new posts. I know, it's total basics but I just want to make sure that everyone does what he can ;)
->  ;morgan;

I'm here, man. Fortunately I work at home so I can take a break to do my turn very often. Usually the main problem is people losing their interest. So far I see we're all a committed gang.  ;b;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 07, 2015, 09:32:01 AM
Fortunately I work at home so I can take a break to do my turn very often.

Same here.

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 07, 2015, 05:38:48 PM
I usually check the thread every hour in the evening.
Sometimes in the morning and/or at noon too.
If the game takes speed, you can count on me not to loose time.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 07, 2015, 11:55:10 PM
-> ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 08, 2015, 09:35:36 PM
Aaand mindworms came after me. Figures.

I can usually check for updates all day long, but i can make turns only when i get home from work. That gives a fairly short window (3-4 hours) on work days, sadly.

-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 08, 2015, 09:45:41 PM
Aaand mindworms came after me. Figures.

I can usually check for updates all day long, but i can make turns only when i get home from work. That gives a fairly short window (3-4 hours) on work days, sadly.

-> ;ulrik;
We understand, no worries. Not everyone can afford to work at home <looks jealously>
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 08, 2015, 10:35:28 PM
Don't worry guys, 1 turn a day right now is more than enough and remember in the future you will want to take your time with the gameplay. Now we're just setting up. But if you can't wait for the next turn, feel free to open the previous one and analyze your moves, the map and for example the tree of available techs (with that Excel tool which comes in handy).
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 08, 2015, 10:48:52 PM
 ;aki; Those worms are unsympathetic. They don't like the explorer team I sent to study the fongus. Maybe we have to understand their psychology to take them down...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 08, 2015, 11:00:06 PM
"Do native lifeforms exist?"
An article in the "Libertarian Worker" appeared recently, speculating on the possibility of alien lifeforms. Until now we thought it's only an imagination of our sci-fi writers. Can it be true, that aliens exist? Is primitive fungi all that we can expect? Who knows! But those strange monoliths do rise some concerns. Maybe some alien civilisation lurks in the mists of unknown?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 09, 2015, 04:41:26 PM
;aki; Those worms are unsympathetic. They don't like the explorer team I sent to study the fongus.
Second worm captured! Beware...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 10, 2015, 11:59:35 PM
Sorry that I kept you waiting and be warned that I won't be able to post another turn until next Sunday in the afternoon.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 11, 2015, 12:02:57 PM
Soon in theaters: heroic last stand of the Recon Platoon #3, commemorating sacrifice that those heroes made for humanity defending it from those little monstruosities, mind worms.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 11, 2015, 04:10:45 PM
Soon in theaters: heroic last stand of the Recon Platoon #3, commemorating sacrifice that those heroes made for humanity defending it from those little monstruosities, mind worms.

Support our troops overseas!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 11, 2015, 06:59:49 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log, 2116 - A peaceful scoot team managed to survive an attack of those beautiful but aggressive worms. I took the time to go there, to congratulate them for their strength personally, and to tell them that the data they collect everyday will be able to make possible a synthetical armor as Foreman Peter showed us on the Unity's Ship, in order to defend us. Another team was murdered, I thought me showing up would not be a waste of time.

Two months later, another attack happened, and the team did not receive any armor. But strangely, even if I did not fulfill my promise yet, me coming on the field have made them stronger. The captain responsible for the safety of the exploration team told that my visit boosted their moral, as they knew the government acknowledged their effort. He told me that the first time, most of the team members were paralysed during the fight. This time, everybody was involved, and the worms have been eradicated quickly, even if the team was weak from the previous attack. They need some medical supplies, sure, I ordered them to come back to our base as soon as possible. But they managed to survive!

Looks like the worms use some psy control when they attack, and those methods don't work effectively on a morally strong troop. After establishing our new base, it seems like we must redirect our effort on creating, not a better quality of armor, but maybe a better training and rewarding of our troops, to keep their moral up.

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 11, 2015, 08:04:05 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 11, 2015, 08:42:59 PM
I've managed to come early from work so just before going to a party, I've managed to make a turn! If I stop posting that means that I'm hospitalised or in custody :>

To  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 12, 2015, 09:28:25 AM
Our advance scouts have discovered most curious natural phenomena: psychoactive spores raining down from the clear sky. There was a number of casualties before our team could leave the area.
A debate is ongoing now whether this phenomena is an action of some unknown, previously not-encountered lifeform. While eggheads are discussing this, Morgan inc. Has unveiled new brand of season - Morgan's Anti-spore Umbrella (tm), avaiable in color of your choice.

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 12, 2015, 01:52:51 PM
Morgan inc. Has unveiled new brand of season - Morgan's Anti-spore Umbrella (tm), avaiable in color of your choice.

I'll buy that for a dollar!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 12, 2015, 02:30:20 PM
"Umbrella."

That's the only word our radio cyborgs could have intercepted for now. It sounds like a TV commercial, maybe a morganite activity? It may sound cliché, but hey, he was the one who kept working on new ways for selling things on the ship, while the rest of us were amazed of his marketing creativity.

Anyway, we are not alone. Radio waves seems to be altered by the Planet, and do not permit us to contact anyone so far without a direct commlink. I think we have to keep the exploration going, maybe we'll find some human activity...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 13, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 13, 2015, 07:19:52 PM
to Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 13, 2015, 08:33:00 PM
A solemn dirge for our colleagues in the colony fallen to mindworms.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 14, 2015, 04:03:10 PM
Is the uploaded save correct?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 14, 2015, 09:06:24 PM
Extremely sorry, it seems i misuploaded it. Should be correct now
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 14, 2015, 09:56:59 PM
 ;nuke;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 14, 2015, 11:45:58 PM
=> 2118  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 15, 2015, 06:17:25 AM
Problems with mindworms?

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 15, 2015, 10:15:42 AM
->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 15, 2015, 04:26:33 PM
Ok, so here are good news and GOOD news.
Our esteemed CEO is alive and well, due to conducting surprise inspection during the unfortunate incident with our headquarters.
Aaand there is a number of avaiable positions in Morgan Inc. management avaiable - and this means promotions for everyone!

P.S. Unfortunately the game crashed when i tried to save it first time, so i had to load it again.
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 15, 2015, 06:19:24 PM
Have you lost your HQ, Kurvivor? Do you suspect foul play? Let's find hard evidence before we accuse Vishniac or anybody else.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 15, 2015, 06:36:35 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 15, 2015, 06:59:54 PM
Have you lost your HQ, Kurvivor? Do you suspect foul play? Let's find hard evidence before we accuse Vishniac or anybody else.
Evidence would be hard to find: mindworms literally dissolve themselves in the brains of their victims before laying their eggs. Good luck searching the goo made of thousands of rotting Morganites for some far-fetched sci-fi controling mechanism...especially when those mindworms are empath-controlled!  :D

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 15, 2015, 08:52:39 PM
"I remember the uncertainty when our landing pod detached from the Unity. I didn't believed that we will survive atmosphere entry and yet here we are, 20 years later. The fireworks over Free Drones Central were amazing, I can't stop looking out of my window. The sky wasn't that bright at night since the Planetfall. Yet, I'm aware that our society isn't yet what we fight for and there's much work to do. How many centuries did the working people fought for true liberty? And yet, now, the dream comes true. In the darkness of Planet's hostile and harsh environment, flickers light of hope. Utopia."
Sylvester Eve, 33rd December, Mission Year 20, Chairman Peter Gray Datalog

Mission Year 20 -> Morgan  ;morgan;

P.S. We are not committed to stomping out alternative ways of life. We don't want to repeat the mistakes of 20th Century labour movement. If we find any mission that is struggling to survive, we will help. Humans, after all, should stick together. Especially in those difficult times.

P.S. 2: Yay! 2 turns in 1 day :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 16, 2015, 06:04:30 AM
Thank you for your kind words of support, fellow colonists.

->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 16, 2015, 02:52:09 PM
You're welcome, my friend. Vishniac admitted his guilt, but I think he's covering up for somebody else. It's probably MallaxOZ, because I don't even know how to say his nickname. Keep your eyes open!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 16, 2015, 04:16:27 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log, 2120 - Twenty years. Wow, it was fast. Since our arrival on the Planet, we did not really have the time to take a break. The first years, it was just a struggle to survive. An alien lifeform is here, and it does not really like us. Year after year, we learned to repel those worms, but our cyborgs live always frightened nowadays. It has been said that certain swarms of those aliens had human zombies among them. The legend even mention some sordid details: a morganite named Richard Baxton, who died clawing his eyes out, screaming for mercy, after being controlled more than a week and attacked his own people. Poor guy...

I hesitated to write an algorithm to delete the legend from The Grid, but we, cyborgs, hold Network Neutrality to be sacred, as it was partly responsible to the Paranoïa that infected Earth and led to its destruction. Instead, I ate a delicious meal to change my mind, as I know my hunger always feed my anger. A full plate of lutefisk, a sentimental dish from me, since that was what my dad, who was as wicked fisher as fantastic scientist, used to cook when I was little, back in my native Norway. The next month, I work day and night on a single algorithm to calm my nerves. I did not really have found a solution for the worms, but I managed to do a polynomial optimization for our Life Algorithm. This advanced in biogenetics should permit us to be centenarians without feeling pain. Fortunately, as I'm already 92 years old. And because it seems my people will need me for the next centuries... I don't know what the future will be like, but I know my skills inspire my people, and they tend to be more effective in research when I'm with them. The science give us the possibility to build a ship which saved us from the destruction of Earth. I think science will save us again.

Anyway, we're out of lutefisk. But hey, let's not lose hope, our progress in understanding the psych of native life forms may allow us to cultivate aquatic farms in next decades!

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 16, 2015, 05:47:34 PM
FIRST CONTACT!!
We are not alone on this planet. I don't talk about other human factions nor about the mindless mindworms we have learnt to live with.
No: there are humanoid aliens out there and our exploration team is just staring at them face to face, unable to understand them.
Let's hope they won't display hostility!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 16, 2015, 10:06:02 PM
Something not so obvious for new players: only one of us will receive the global messages of the game such as "Perihelion bla bla bla: native life activity increased" or "Increased sunspot activity will prevent communication the next 20 years" or "Global warming triggered polar cap melting" and others like that.
I think it will be the last player of the turn but I may be mistaken.

If you're this one, please share the messages with us here! Thanks!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 16, 2015, 10:41:41 PM
I haven't got any messages of that kind but I'll keep that in my mind. Morgan, maybe it's you who'll get those messages?

Anyway, turn for you ->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 17, 2015, 05:44:34 AM
There was a long discussion on whether providing this information free of charge was a charity, but it was ended when our esteemed CEO stopped it by claiming that 'there is nothing wrong with charity' and that he himself made his first capital from investments of several blind jentlemen who gathered their money from charity.

When we get any such messages, they will be shared.

to  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 17, 2015, 09:48:40 AM
Onwards.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 17, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
 ;aki; "Sex is good for algorithms" -- A report from a governmental study, broadcasted live on The Grid to inform a maximum number of cyborgs. A two-hour conference demonstrating the benefit of sexual intercourse. A serious matter: after 20 years, birth rate is still low, and we can no longer blame the trauma due to the crash. We have to face it: cyborgs are uncomfortable with reproduction.

The site on which we landed is not very rich in nutrients, thus it was not really an issue. We had to control population anyway. But for the first time, our biologists found a way to terraform the ground in order to fit the quality standards of the Food Algorithm. The toxicity of the fungus is still difficult to terraform, but we are now able to plant farms and forest on low-fungus sites. When our terraforming robots will be programmed, food supply will no longer be a problem to increase the size our faction. But push our fellow cyborgs to have sex? I bet a conference is not enough...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 17, 2015, 12:20:17 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 17, 2015, 08:12:41 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 17, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
Times are peaceful for a change, and our research division has achieved wonderful insight into the works of the society under duress.
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 18, 2015, 03:12:42 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 18, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 18, 2015, 05:44:28 PM
Maybe some bug in this patch: if you complete a colony pod the same turn a base grows 2, it says you can't complete the pod unless you abandon the base.
That's losing one turn...  :mad:

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 18, 2015, 06:11:54 PM
Maybe some bug in this patch: if you complete a colony pod the same turn a base grows 2, it says you can't complete the pod unless you abandon the base.

I may be wrong, but I always observe this behavior. Seems like the city is producing before growing. It's cool when you're building recreation commons just in time, less cool when it's a colony pod in a 1-size base...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 18, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Maybe some bug in this patch: if you complete a colony pod the same turn a base grows 2, it says you can't complete the pod unless you abandon the base.
That's losing one turn...  :mad:

It's always been like that, production goes before growth. This is actually good, since you can complete those RecCommons before the new pop arrives. But yeah, the situation you mentioned also happens and sure is annoying.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 18, 2015, 11:33:31 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 19, 2015, 06:14:27 AM
->  ;ulrik;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 19, 2015, 12:43:42 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 19, 2015, 12:56:31 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 20, 2015, 06:24:36 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 20, 2015, 09:30:57 AM
to  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 20, 2015, 08:19:45 PM
Another day, another premium for management
-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 20, 2015, 08:45:03 PM
Another day, another alga muffin... Hm, I guess I need to talk to that Morgan guy.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 20, 2015, 08:59:12 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 21, 2015, 12:00:15 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 21, 2015, 09:29:48 AM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 21, 2015, 07:07:35 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 21, 2015, 07:23:18 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 21, 2015, 07:31:27 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 22, 2015, 06:21:15 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 22, 2015, 10:14:33 AM
To  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 22, 2015, 02:23:53 PM
Our long range sensors have detected a new activity in prevously explored area. My scientists ensure that this cannot be our former colleagues from Unity.
Speculation continues on whether this is related to those firestreaks that were observed a number of years before.
 ->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 22, 2015, 02:34:46 PM
Our long range sensors have detected a new activity in prevously explored area. My scientists ensure that this cannot be our former colleagues from Unity.
Speculation continues on whether this is related to those firestreaks that were observed a number of years before.
 ->  ;ulrik;

The things I have seen... you wouldn't believe... they looked like... well, kind of like elephants, really.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 22, 2015, 06:56:58 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 22, 2015, 09:19:29 PM
Strange: I <ESC> the game before entering my password to look at something else on the web and when I resumed to actually play the turn I got the warning about tampering, even though I didn't open the turn previously.
I don't know if Peter will get the warning; you'll tell us.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 22, 2015, 10:01:25 PM
1) Do you guys think that with time we will be able to establish something like Planetary Map and Planetary News Network containing public, unclassified material? Would be nice to share some info, have a map were we can show off our borders, gains and loses.
Here is something most interesting from public sources!
As they sing: "The graph / on the wall / tells the story / of it all"  ;)

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 22, 2015, 11:51:26 PM
It looks like the Pirates are going to dominate the game although generally the graph is reassuring for the Free Drones. I've met the aliens too and I got the warning.

-> ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 23, 2015, 12:00:47 AM
Historical note from the graph:
2118 - first infiltration of human colonies by mind worms. Thousands reportedly dead in Morganites' premises.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 23, 2015, 07:33:10 AM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 23, 2015, 12:28:24 PM
Don't mind me.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 23, 2015, 01:54:20 PM
Here is something most interesting from public sources!

Amazing! I did not even know that such datas were available. I have not played smac for a long time before joining alphacentauri2.info, I guess I'm a little rusty.

Currently teaching a class, I'll play tonight. A programming course by the way: in real life too I'm  ;aki;  ;lol
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 23, 2015, 07:48:54 PM
It looks like the Pirates are going to dominate the game

It looks like the Pirates dominate humans... But H'minee's power graph is scarier!
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 23, 2015, 11:52:49 PM
The aliens finally didn't show hostility. Unable to communicate, they just went away... That's a relief!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 24, 2015, 02:08:14 AM
to  ;morgan;

How many bases can you build without getting an extra drone?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 24, 2015, 06:20:01 AM
A question from our narketing division: do you like changing names of your colonies?
-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 24, 2015, 09:15:00 AM
Gray, it is 6 on a standard map.

Kurvivor, I never bother.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 24, 2015, 10:25:27 AM
How many bases can you build without getting an extra drone?

 ;aki; I checked the archives, and found something useful.

Dorgo Alpha, Secondary Function Minister, in report On The Bureaucracy Of A New World, 2113 :

« Algorithms Bureaucracy has been tested and documented by the community of Cyborgs. It tells us the average number of colonies that a faction can manage without adding a level of political hierarchy, and thus without suffering of the population discontent due to the heaviness of the system: 6.

A team of social expert developers have completed a refactoring of the Cyborgs political system, in order to go up to 9 colonies without changing to a heavier system. It's seems that every faction in which they are able to improve their system efficiency tend to increase that limit of approximatively 1.5 by efficiency point.

Moreover, we evaluated the consequence above that limit: every additional colony will create an additional unhappy district somewhere in the faction.
»

A question from our narketing division: do you like changing names of your colonies?

Every Cyborg colony as a name dedicated to its function and their climate. I'd like to be in CYBORG HOLIDAYS in the summer season :)

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 24, 2015, 11:24:30 AM
I do change the names of my bases as way to customise my faction. I even add a landmark or two when some significant unnamed feature is present. Also, I put a "+" where my soldiers fell.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 24, 2015, 05:14:46 PM
No renaming for me.
Everytime someone renames a base, Brian Reynolds cries...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 24, 2015, 07:40:07 PM
->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 24, 2015, 09:31:13 PM
Thank you for participating in the our marketing division research!
Now, for a very modest fee, Morgan Inc. can offer its licensed and trademarked names for your usge. As a special offer, first four such names would be offered for free.

->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 25, 2015, 10:36:12 AM
Thank you for participating in the our marketing division research!
Now, for a very modest fee, Morgan Inc. can offer its licensed and trademarked names for your usge. As a special offer, first four such names would be offered for free.

 ;aki; I'd be interested. Do you have a directory to see the names already taken? As a comprehensive list of every colony names on the Planet would be a precious asset for our Social Research Division, as they are putting in place an Social Psych theory. And AFAIK, our Neurological Department could be interested too ; I think they're currently analyzing tons of data like that in order to understand how the human brain make a decision, such lifting the arm, being angry, dreaming, or deciding a colony name.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 25, 2015, 03:56:11 PM
You guys, just, you know, putting it out - would you care to unite behind me as the Supreme Leader? What? No, it's not like that, I'm just, just doing a survey, too.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 25, 2015, 05:47:58 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log, 2129 - A explorer team, assigned to the discovery of a land full of fungus discovered a unity pod. It looked like one of our lab on the ship! Precious informations may be recovered, so I ordered the team to dive into the fungus to investigate. I know it sounds risky, but those explorers are hardened to the task. They have been in fungus before. The game is worth the candle. Bad call.

The pod was infested by Worms, they have the time to ruin it. A bunch of radar computers was still in good condition despite the crash, but all previous data were corrupted. Nevertheless, the team was able to use the radar to scan the area, and send us some informations. That's when it got weird, and I confess, pretty scary. As we would have predicted, the radar indicates us the presence of worm nests north-east and north-west. They got to get out of here immediately, if they don't want to be caught in a deadly bug sandwich. But images on the screen showed another thing: a vehicule is approching the pod, whereas the worm nests kept their distances.

The vehicule stopped one mile away. They saw us. We saw them. My team send a message to all the radio channel: "Who are you?". No answer, but a sound. A defeaning resonance. After a while, the rover turned around. Our scans did not have the time to identify them clearly. But it was not a nest. And it was not human. I see the images. Not a joke but they really look like... octopus! Frightening octopus, to be precised...

We have to find a way to communicate. Let's bootstrap a language algorithm...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 26, 2015, 11:04:29 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 27, 2015, 12:56:20 AM
->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 27, 2015, 07:25:33 PM
Onwards!
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 28, 2015, 03:51:33 PM
Ahoy!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 28, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log, 2130

Aliens worms, and aliens... octopus are still right there. But another exploration team just found a forest. Our arboreal engineer is clear: it's not a natural forest, the ground has been terraformer. Another alien activity? Or maybe human... We're still hoping to find some survivors of the Unity! Maybe they can help us with those aliens threats...

=> ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 29, 2015, 12:42:45 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 29, 2015, 01:03:36 AM
Turn Complete ->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 29, 2015, 08:37:59 PM
Turn initiated
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 29, 2015, 09:51:43 PM
Goddam toasters.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 29, 2015, 10:13:59 PM
Is it... Is it Kirov?
Images has been reported to me, from the exploration team. It looks like a city in the ocean. It would be wonderful if I'm correct. It would mean that we are not the only human faction to have survived. Maybe they can help me with the alien situation. I'd like our people to be friend, but I remember he did not even succeded to prononce MallaxOZ, my public key name...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 29, 2015, 10:41:12 PM
Did somebody already see an announcement for faction reaching Secrets of the Human Brain?
Nobody got them yet?

To the drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 30, 2015, 01:55:18 PM
I didn't got any message ->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 30, 2015, 02:27:05 PM
It's Kurvivor who start turns. If he has got an info, he would have sold us the information  :P
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 30, 2015, 02:31:31 PM
Neither alien could do the SotHB as neither has Social Psych yet. And yep, it's Kurvivor who should get the relevant messages.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 30, 2015, 03:12:16 PM
Does anyone gets a message when some starts a great project?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 30, 2015, 03:16:01 PM
Does anyone gets a message when some starts a great project?

Just hit F5 in your turn.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 30, 2015, 05:33:40 PM
Alas, there are no news to sell yet.
On unrelated note: i will not be avaliable until next week.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 30, 2015, 06:31:35 PM
Humans... so nearby... Caught in an alien crossfire, now I need to watch my back even more. I wonder if they know my secret...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 30, 2015, 08:20:59 PM
H'minee power graph is unbelievable. Free Recycling tanks in every base should help...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 30, 2015, 10:55:53 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on April 30, 2015, 11:41:57 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 01, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
Does anyone gets a message when some starts a great project?
Just hit F5 in your turn.
So you can know that we know that you've started the WP!
Few things on Chiron remain secret for long...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 01, 2015, 10:34:03 PM
I believe you should get an announcement anyways, so I just keep the transparency up. You see, we Free Drones are good folks, although your free-market ways are misguided to say the least, we believe that the only future worth living for our kids is Democratic and Planned Eudaimonia
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 04, 2015, 07:12:09 PM
Sorry for the delay.
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 04, 2015, 07:36:05 PM
One of the aliens started to talk human, you may want to rush to SotHB if you need it so much. Also, I teach them Piratese so don't be surprised if they Aaarrrr you, me wenches.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 04, 2015, 09:22:17 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 04, 2015, 10:26:15 PM
Not that I need the Secrets but since blind research granted me its prerequisites and I need other Discover techs, I just hope to get it first. Why let some alien scum get a free tech?

Another question: this game shall probably be heavy on diplomacy. Should we consider bilateral agreements as binding?

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 05, 2015, 12:06:07 AM
-> morgan

Well, without some superior authority it's free for all isn't it?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 05, 2015, 10:24:02 AM
Now - back to business.
During the launch of Unity Morgan Inc. has acquired all the trademarks with really good discounts. So, we are proud to provideto Cyborgs the colony name of "Cyborg Acme Factory" (tm)

->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 05, 2015, 11:48:08 AM
Another question: this game shall probably be heavy on diplomacy. Should we consider bilateral agreements as binding?

What do you mean by 'binding'? Deception is always an option.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 05, 2015, 07:26:14 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 05, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
What do you mean by 'binding'? Deception is always an option.
If someone propose me a cooperative victory if I pact with him, I'll probably refuse if I think he may stab me in the back sooner or later.
There are also a lot of small agreements possible about everything but confidence is of the essence.
Of course, we may prefer paranoia but I have to ask first.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 06, 2015, 12:10:09 AM
-> morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 06, 2015, 12:44:14 AM
If someone propose me a cooperative victory if I pact with him, I'll probably refuse if I think he may stab me in the back sooner or later.

Darn it, yet again I agreed to an option I really did not want to; I need to pay attention to it more in the future. As it is, the co-op is on but I'm strongly against it. If you guys are determined, we can play with it on, but if I notice anyone relying on a 100% perma-alliance where everything is shared, I will feel a great distaste. Please don't abuse this rule even though it begs to be abused.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 06, 2015, 07:31:44 AM
Another uneventful year.
Sensor data indicate that activity in alien settlement has increased. Probably there is now more of them.
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 06, 2015, 09:15:42 AM
If someone propose me a cooperative victory if I pact with him, I'll probably refuse if I think he may stab me in the back sooner or later.

Darn it, yet again I agreed to an option I really did not want to; I need to pay attention to it more in the future. As it is, the co-op is on but I'm strongly against it. If you guys are determined, we can play with it on, but if I notice anyone relying on a 100% perma-alliance where everything is shared, I will feel a great distaste. Please don't abuse this rule even though it begs to be abused.

Cooperative victory don't bother me unless it's unfair. Consider a game where one faction is dominating the world, and two other are in pain. If these two teams sign a pact against the big one, it seems fair to me.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 08, 2015, 09:57:07 AM
 ;ulrik; In case you've missed it, it's your turn Kirov
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 08, 2015, 10:47:41 AM
Indeed, the last turn flew past my radar.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 08, 2015, 11:17:49 AM
 ;aki; Aki's log, May 8th 2135

May 8th 1945, my great great father celebrates the Victory of WWII. He participated in the decoding of Enigma, and was very proud to have helped save his fellows. 190 years ago to the day, I find myself in the situation of recreating a war. An alien garnison helped with an alien rover stand at the gate of CYBORGS HOLIDAYS. The city is no longer a place to be on vacation, despite the beautiful sunshine in the area. We don't really know the intention of those aliens, as we have still not found a way to communicate with them. I created a lab project to try to understand those waves their sending to us, as I'm pretty sure those repeat radio signals may mean something. But on this day, I think I have no choice to take another measure, that won't be popular among my peaceful nation: I'll set up a laboratory cell to prototype a weapon. Hope we can produce something to defend us in time...


=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 08, 2015, 05:18:08 PM
Indeed, the last turn flew past my radar.
I was thinking that you've been angered by these talks of cooperative victory...  ;)

As for Gaian neighborhood, the Aliens have disappeared. Maybe to take care of the Cyborgs?

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 08, 2015, 06:22:19 PM
to morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 08, 2015, 07:16:26 PM
It seems no less then a decade is needed to start rebuilding losses incurred.
Still, damages were covered by insurance, so it is not all that bad.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 08, 2015, 09:36:06 PM
Look, don't get me wrong, I've got alien friends myself, but I think most of them should go back to Mexico.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 08, 2015, 10:46:56 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 09, 2015, 03:59:20 AM
The GIA (Gaian Intelligence Agency) presents you its decadal report on Chiron population: interesting trends.
It seems that factions with growth malus didn't feel it as for now.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 09, 2015, 11:56:10 PM
Bloody Caretakers. It appears that we have no chance even if we would jointly attack them.

To Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 10, 2015, 09:53:27 AM
Bloody Caretakers. It appears that we have no chance even if we would jointly attack them.
Are you under attack or is it just the sight of the powergraph frightening you?
At this time of the game, most of their rise is probably due to them having landed in the Monsoon Jungle. With some investment in defence to keep them at bay, we should be able to take them down sooner than later.

That reminds me of the 'maritime' game when the CMN found fun to put aliens in perma-vendetta against us and give them 3-res armor from the start... They almost wiped me out, I lost 38 units and a few bases before I could stabilize the situation and gain some ground again.
At this stage, you just don't care about the other players: killing the aliens becomes a goal in itself.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 10, 2015, 10:02:32 PM
I do believe there are little problem liberal application of anti-alien sprays (tm) (aka nerve gas) cannot solve in that regard
P.S. what is the command to switch between description and production infor display about current square?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 10, 2015, 10:06:04 PM
You can change that back by clicking on the display for the square.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 10, 2015, 10:22:40 PM
Cooperative victory don't bother me unless it's unfair. Consider a game where one faction is dominating the world, and two other are in pain. If these two teams sign a pact against the big one, it seems fair to me.

I have no problems with pacts, but with their permanence. Imagine player A faring well and B & C teaming up against him. In one scenario, they defeat him and win together, end of story. In the other scenario, they have to keep an eye on each other at all times, knowing that their falling out is inevitable. Just before A is done with, B saves him and backstabs C, trying to secure the win for himself. Which scenario sounds more fun to you?

And this is before we even consider less sporstman alliances. Any two reasonably good players can ink a perma-alliance as early as possible and with no distrust or disaccord between them, they can dominate 99% games. Just synchronize your research and waltz your way to victory.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 10, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
I believe that free for all is the default and most probable scenario. It's like in real life. After WWII former allies (US and USSR) became bitter enemies.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 11, 2015, 12:03:58 AM
 ;aki; Note on "Agressives Octopus", 2137.

The aliens we've met did not seem to be native. They have clothes, vehicules, and weapons. A lot of weapons. A rover approching their city count not less than a half dozen of troops. They don't use a psychotic transe to attack. It looks like their resonance can create a "sound shield". Our lab guys made some progress on a laser weapon, but our data scientists have already calculate that 20% of lasers may be reflected due to resonance. Also, we think the aliens can use this resonance in the other way around. The magnetism could be manipulate in order to gather 25% firepower bonus in channeling the attack. Our algorithms permit us to understand the physics, but not to use it on the field. But some day we will, hopefully.

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 11, 2015, 10:05:41 AM
Oops, forgot the file.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 11, 2015, 11:34:11 AM
With 5 human players, diplomacy will be much more complicated than just 3 vs 1.
However, by binding agreement, I wasn't merely speaking about pacts but also any informal agreement. Things like "I won't build the Neural Amplifier if you give me this future tech" or "Let me build a base on this island in your territory, cancel vendetta and I'll share with you my infiltration of Faction X"... Anything goes.
I'd like my partners to be true to their word.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Our researchers have discovered the Secrets of the Human Brain.
The excitement of this discovery has stimulated a burst of new research!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 11, 2015, 03:58:31 PM
Check out Iran and their promises that they won't build nuclear weapons. Is it good enough? No. US demands regular checks by their "probe teams". As in real life, not everyone us trust worthy but let us know if someone's a liar. Hmm... Maybe we should have some kind of meta-game reputation system bind to player's profile? You know, after each game we can vote on player's trustworthiness?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 11, 2015, 04:49:30 PM
Of all people that I know, I hold grudges the longer (if not forever). In games too.
So I'll quote Velocyrix:
Quote
Diplomacy is about human interaction. If you’ve got a reputation as a backstabber, like it or not, memories last longer than a single game, and you may find yourself stacking the deck against you in later games by running roughshod over allies in the game you’re currently involved in.
and add that I'll try to make sure someone who fooled me will not win.
Call it game rage!  :mad: or just psychorigid rightfulness!  :D

If one wants an agreement with the Gaians, with a good agreement comes great responsibility.   ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 11, 2015, 09:07:00 PM
Quote
Check out Iran and their promises that they won't build nuclear weapons. Is it good enough? No.
If possible, it would be great to keep real world politics out of the thread. Especially US foreign policy in context of trustworthiness
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 11, 2015, 09:26:11 PM
However, by binding agreement, I wasn't merely speaking about pacts but also any informal agreement. Things like "I won't build the Neural Amplifier if you give me this future tech" or "Let me build a base on this island in your territory, cancel vendetta and I'll share with you my infiltration of Faction X"... Anything goes.
I'd like my partners to be true to their word.

I hear you, my friend! I, too, lament the morality of many a contemporary player. Alas, long gone is virtue, honour and simple decency. However, I’m afraid that others, wolves in sheep’s clothing as they are, would raise outcry that your idea runs counter to the spirit of multiplayer games, that not being double-tricked is your luxury and your own responsibility. Yes, such is the current state of affairs and it makes me weep. ‘But what can I do, Kirov?’, I hear you asking. It’s quite simple, my friend. Learn to trust me and me only. Other SMAC players are the scum of the earth.

And congratulations of the Secrets of the Human Brain!  :clap:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 11, 2015, 10:50:20 PM
Peter of the Drones, have you seen your turn?

Vishniac, congrats for the Secrets of The Human Brain. I have to say that I'm a little embarassed, my +2 research was not enough. Maybe my people is not motivated enough? I think I've got to kick some cyborgs ass during the next turns...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 11, 2015, 11:40:52 PM
I always check properly for new turns but I don't have SMAX installed on my mobile ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 12, 2015, 12:12:15 AM
I always check properly for new turns but I don't have SMAX installed on my mobile ;)

Damn, it would be a great thing to do.
I'd try to play SMAX on Android via Wine, just for the challenge.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 12, 2015, 12:52:25 AM
If your phone had a USB port, I wonder if the operating system would run SMACX?  I understand you can run it directly off a thumb drive on a desk/laptop.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 12, 2015, 09:45:04 PM
Guys, check posts properly. Turn for Morgan was posted yesterday. Check my previous post.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 12, 2015, 11:29:31 PM
I saw it, yes.
Cannot make my turn at the moment, please wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 13, 2015, 09:13:46 AM
Oh, sorry, that's fine. I just want to make sure for the common good :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 13, 2015, 04:56:56 PM
Feel free to take your time, us cyborgs take a break in a Recreation Commons during the wait.  :bot:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 13, 2015, 05:28:13 PM
Feel free to take your time: I'm going into vacation now.
You'll get my turn Tuesday evening.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 13, 2015, 07:45:40 PM
That iniswap thing is hard to use.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 14, 2015, 10:56:14 AM
We may vote on the Planetary Council resolution to enforce bilateral agreements as binding under one condition - those become ineffective after maximum 20 turns. So you can plan accordingly without being afraid of being back-stabbed but also without being forced to keep your word for 200 years. You know, alliances are fine but after some time situation can change and no one should be locked into permanent alliance or war. It would become boring in my opinion and the point of strategic games is to remain flexible and dynamic in your plans. What do other Planetary leaders think?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 14, 2015, 11:34:13 AM
What kind of enforcement are you talking about?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 14, 2015, 07:57:11 PM
Guys, I'm sorry, but joking aside, this is going way too far. There is absolutely no way I would ever agree to any kind of artificial enforcement of any kind of agreement, and it is end of story. If you can't stand the threat of being back-stabbed, this probably means that Multiplayer is simply not your cup of tea. It's totally fine, singleplayer is cool as well. Maybe you don't feel it right now because you just haven't played that much SMAC MP, but this proposal ruins like 75% fun of the game. There is definitely time and place for what I'd call "reasonable treachery" and the thrill of exposing to it, pulling it off or even falling victim to it is absolutely incomparable to anything you can experience in singleplayer. That's lovely that you don't want to betray, it's cool and I respect that. Honestly, I tend to be a man of my word myself. But sometimes I am not and that's when the real fun starts. You will have a couple of games more under your belt, you'll know I'm right. For now, please just trust me on this - if you don't want to be back-stabbed, you have to make sure it doesn't happen or just back-stab earlier. That's the only way it can work.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 14, 2015, 08:14:15 PM
Totally agree. I would even say that I want to play MP games to lose, as I'm sick of easy wins against AI. Cause AI is too weak at surprising me. I almost want to be betrayed! And of course, I want to crush the traitor like a bug afterwards :) Or be annihilated if that's my fate...
I'm not against agreements or pacts (unless as I wrote in a previous post, if the pact is unfair and spoil the game), but I really don't think that we need any rule to frame them.

[Kirov, in case you've missed it, it's your turn.]
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 14, 2015, 08:22:00 PM
Of course I missed it, sorry.

Kurvivor, what's the problem with Iniswap? Have you managed to enter the factions in the required order? I can send you a file with that. Also, it's worth using the Ini launcher (the blue face) for all your games and put it in your desktop or quicklaunch or wherever it is you start SMAC from. Then it's always one click more but all your games are good with graphics.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 14, 2015, 08:33:25 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 14, 2015, 09:07:57 PM
Quote
Kurvivor, what's the problem with Iniswap?
Mainly, it seems to change contents of ini file without express actions to do so. For example: i want to verify i am using factions for this game, i launch iniswap, i look and am satisfied with 'factions in ini file' list. I close it and launch the game (cannot do it from there due to being on linux - it fails to start). Lo and behold! i am gaian and aliens are believers.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 14, 2015, 09:34:38 PM
Mainly, it seems to change contents of ini file without express actions to do so. For example: i want to verify i am using factions for this game, i launch iniswap, i look and am satisfied with 'factions in ini file' list. I close it and launch the game (cannot do it from there due to being on linux - it fails to start). Lo and behold! i am gaian and aliens are believers.

Iniswap is not supposed to work this way. The ini file in your game folder remains unchanged, it is only the faction list which gets temporarily altered. That's actually the entire point of Iniswap. If you can't use the Ini launcher, then I believe the app is no good for you. I'm quite sure I used to use Iniswap 1.0 and it run the terranx launcher, but you'd have to search for it.

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on May 14, 2015, 11:32:11 PM
Quote
Kurvivor, what's the problem with Iniswap?
Mainly, it seems to change contents of ini file without express actions to do so. For example: i want to verify i am using factions for this game, i launch iniswap, i look and am satisfied with 'factions in ini file' list. I close it and launch the game (cannot do it from there due to being on linux - it fails to start). Lo and behold! i am gaian and aliens are believers.
Are you using SMACX linux version, or is it windows version on WINE?

Iniswap was meant for windows. The first versions were replacing whole ini file, but it was not efficient, as other changes to ini were lost.
This recent 2.2 version replaces only 7 lines for factions, but that's true, launcher requires declaration of set to replace (could be skipped for better functionality, but I did not make that).

There is a chance, Yitzi will fix graphics bug for multiplayer in his next release. Singleplayer does not have that problem, it loads the strings with faction names from the save. I may be wrong, but it is possible, scient fixed this (or it was never broken...?)

Meanwhile, I make a Java version of iniswap.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 18, 2015, 10:31:54 AM
Vishniac, did you miss your turn? Now I'm thinking maybe you got upset...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 18, 2015, 11:40:54 AM
Feel free to take your time: I'm going into vacation now.
You'll get my turn Tuesday evening.

Nope, he just took a break  ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 18, 2015, 11:46:34 AM
Oh good, then. BTW - I'm away 22-24 (this weekend, Friday included).
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 19, 2015, 09:36:21 PM
Fine, no binding then. It was just a question.
Once in a MP game of Dominions III, I had a non-agression agreement for 8 turns and i attacked the guy after something like 10 turns: he squealed like a pig you try to kill, PMed the other players and swore about betrayal...
Here, the rules are clear now: no rules!  :D

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 20, 2015, 11:22:00 PM
I was wondering, why people seem to be breaking the silence between uncontacted factions? Like, asking me if I'm attacked by aliens or not?

EDIT: -> Morgan ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 21, 2015, 02:37:47 PM
why people seem to be breaking the silence between uncontacted factions?

Changing a line in some file make something hide the factions that you haven't encountered yet, even if it's a human player. So, no more pretending you can't talk with someone else, you really can't. It's useful, mostly when you're approaching a uncontacted faction, and you're not sure you're close enough to engage conversation.

It's has been posted in this thread I believe, but I don't recall at all...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 22, 2015, 06:05:19 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 25, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
I'm fine with people saying via comm that this map is cool, but please do not provide or ask for any details which can affect your or somebody else's gameplay. Apply good will.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 25, 2015, 12:26:03 PM
"Aliens octopus here, aliens worms there. We're screwed."
-- 2139, explorer team report.

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 25, 2015, 12:47:53 PM
I'm fine with people saying via comm that this map is cool, but please do not provide or ask for any details which can affect your or somebody else's gameplay. Apply good will.
:o
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 26, 2015, 11:47:43 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 28, 2015, 05:53:55 AM
Come on, guys!
At this stage, week-end excepted, we should be cruising at 1 turn a day.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 30, 2015, 03:23:18 PM
Just prodded Peter via PM.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on May 30, 2015, 06:03:52 PM
Sorry guys. -> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 31, 2015, 11:57:56 AM
I must notify that there would be an "extra save/reload" message.
For some reason, game hung during the entering of password, and i had to forcefully close and relaunch it to make the turn
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 31, 2015, 01:24:44 PM
It's OK.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 31, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 31, 2015, 08:47:49 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 02, 2015, 09:58:08 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 03, 2015, 08:37:26 AM
-> Kirov  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 03, 2015, 02:56:36 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 03, 2015, 03:34:23 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 03, 2015, 05:05:39 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 03, 2015, 11:31:18 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 04, 2015, 02:21:20 PM
Onwards
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 04, 2015, 02:38:50 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 04, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
=> ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 04, 2015, 03:53:51 PM
My expansion is slower than I'd like but in this game I prefer to play safe.
A lot can happen later with 5 players.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 04, 2015, 10:15:43 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;

I'm at war with Caretakers for past few turns. I've won 4 battles and captured one artefact but I haven't seen Battle Ogres yet.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 05, 2015, 07:50:29 AM
That's impressive!
Keep up the good work!
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 05, 2015, 12:56:20 PM
But remember that with great power comes great responsibility. That's what my uncle used to say.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 05, 2015, 08:04:39 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 07, 2015, 03:38:44 PM
The war against aliens will be the first priority for some time.
My neighbors have disappeared but I still spend some resources to prototype military units: can't let them come back in force and be caught unprepared.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 08, 2015, 01:19:32 PM
They are coming...

-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 08, 2015, 06:32:15 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 08, 2015, 06:45:44 PM
They live!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 08, 2015, 07:32:46 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log - 2144

After some exploration, we were able to find other factions. Humans and Aliens ones. The humans we've met seem friendly. After the crash, I was afraid that some bitterness or anxiety between humans will come up, as I know loneliness and fear can create some ideologic wars, whereas on the ship each dispute end up with calm around a beer or two.
There is no beer on Chiron, as the soil can't produce barley. And sure, there will be disputes... Year after year, in the report of my fellow cyborg attached to the programmation of the Defense, the conclusion of the algorithms tells us that war is coming. It is no longer just a probability. It's right there. Tensions will come up. Not from the Humans so far, but the Aliens will return. And maybe they'll returned heavy armed this time. I have to think about create a better defense than a stupid Laser Scout to repel them...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 08, 2015, 08:13:57 PM
Exploration teams have located where the aliens dwell. First: mapping. Information is power so we need to know more. But they are not threatening right now, probably busy with someone/something else.
We have time to prepare.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 10, 2015, 10:23:30 PM
->Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 11, 2015, 11:46:04 AM
Everybody is developing, and i am just sitting there building HQ )))
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 11, 2015, 12:00:10 PM
Well, sometimes you eat the mind worm, sometimes the mind worm eats you.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 11, 2015, 09:19:31 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 11, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 12, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
I've traded 2 techs for peace. So I stay in game.
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 14, 2015, 08:06:32 PM
Be strong!
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 14, 2015, 09:17:00 PM
Stay proud!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 14, 2015, 10:21:53 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 15, 2015, 12:02:28 AM
You're plotting our doom by giving techs to aliens!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 15, 2015, 10:54:39 AM
You're plotting our doom by giving techs to aliens!

To the Drones  ;domai;

No GIA report this year?  ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 15, 2015, 11:56:22 AM
No GIA report this year?  ;)
Ha ha ha!
I was waiting to see if anyone would notice and ask so...here it is!

Trends and situation:
- Morgan has begun his recovery.
- slow but stable growth for the Drones, staying #2 in population. It should be faster now that they don't have aliens to fight anymore.
- Gaians and Cyborgs start and finish equal to each other despite different curves
- first contender for the post of Governor is still the Pirates though they seem to have stabilized. Some drone problems perhaps? -1 efficiency probably don't help.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 15, 2015, 11:28:59 PM
I don't know if that truce is going to last... I suffer badly from slow research rate and random tech settings. So yeah, I helped them just to buy time :P

-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 16, 2015, 10:43:49 AM
Some recovery that is.
Our legal department is suing our insurance companies for failing to pay up. That will show hem
-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 16, 2015, 01:27:04 PM
- first contender for the post of Governor is still the Pirates though they seem to have stabilized. Some drone problems perhaps? -1 efficiency probably don't help.

I must construct additional Pylons!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 16, 2015, 01:40:54 PM
=> ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 16, 2015, 04:38:33 PM
Impressive... Most impressive!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 16, 2015, 06:38:34 PM
What's impressive?

-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 16, 2015, 08:33:27 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 17, 2015, 11:32:34 AM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 17, 2015, 07:27:33 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log - 2148
Our research since the planetfall has been useful. We adapted our terraforming algorithms to the new ground, our cyborgs take the most of the mineral and source of energy to create and builds things in order to defend ourselves, to survive. It's time to go further. Our goal is not to survive, but to thrive. And for that, us, cyborgs, need to regain some sort of technological comfort. Like the Internet, back on Earth. Let's get a real Network Node...

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 18, 2015, 05:44:47 PM
What's impressive?
Pirates' growth

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 19, 2015, 11:40:19 PM
Hahaha! Good news! But I'll keep it to myself :P

-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 20, 2015, 06:12:15 PM
After following the discussion of the Succession Game, it appears that everybody may not have the same drone rules.
It's too soon for me to see a difference (no B-drones yet) but it would be good to know whether I (we) must change some number in my files or not.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 20, 2015, 06:30:44 PM
I wonder if a standard procedure for CMNs in the future should be stating exactly which version they created on, and posting the alphax.txt if YitziPatch?  No doubt that all players in any game should be playing on the same patches/version.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 20, 2015, 08:18:53 PM
Patches and version are the sames but it seems nobody can know for sure the variable for drone control used by someone.
In this case, shouldn't we all put it to 0?
(and that would spare us some headache! As if playing at Transcend isn't hard enough)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 20, 2015, 08:54:13 PM
Well, I defer to the true managers of MP, the CMNs, ordinarily, but I hereby declare (unless they persuade me otherwise) that the rule from now on is everybody synch versions on each new game and do not touch the alphax.txt.  -It's only fair.  I will punish (proven) infractions.  -Y'all know what a tyrant I am, but righteous citizen need not fear my (horrific) wrath.

(CMNs - feel free to discuss here or in the clubhouse.  Your call.)

Thank you and enjoy your game.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 20, 2015, 10:35:43 PM
What's that all about?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 20, 2015, 10:53:57 PM
Well, I defer to the true managers of MP, the CMNs, ordinarily, but I hereby declare (unless they persuade me otherwise) that the rule from now on is everybody synch versions on each new game and do not touch the alphax.txt.  -It's only fair.  I will punish (proven) infractions.  -Y'all know what a tyrant I am, but righteous citizen need not fear my (horrific) wrath.

(CMNs - feel free to discuss here or in the clubhouse.  Your call.)

Thank you and enjoy your game.
What's that all about?
Possible problems with not everyone, inadvertently, playing the same version - the specific issue bringing it up is how the game handles drones and whether everyone has the same parts of the YitziPatch enabled the same way.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 21, 2015, 02:10:56 PM
The turn rate has fallen to 2/week and that's a bad thing. The time when I was idle was when I moved back to Poland and started a new job so it was a temporary thing. What about others? Is anyone thinking about quitting the game? I'm quite happy so far and regret nothing. What's your experience with the Unity pods guys? For me it was mostly beneficial and gave me a kick despite occasional loss of a unit or two to pods infested with mind worms. But random research now is a pain when I badly need new weapons, research equipment and social engineering options.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 21, 2015, 02:48:27 PM
The turn rate has fallen to 2/week and that's a bad thing. The time when I was idle was when I moved back to Poland and started a new job so it was a temporary thing. What about others? Is anyone thinking about quitting the game? I'm quite happy so far and regret nothing.

Summer time! Thus I imagine many of us will take vacations in the next months. I think leaving home for a week or two myself in the next weeks. That being said, Kurvivor did not notice us, so I think he won't be long.

What's your experience with the Unity pods guys? For me it was mostly beneficial and gave me a kick despite occasional loss of a unit or two to pods infested with mind worms. But random research now is a pain when I badly need new weapons, research equipment and social engineering options.

I have mixed feelings about unity pods. I like the pinch of randomness it introduces in the game, but I mostly got xenofungus and worms, with a few monoliths. No tech, comms or mineral for the nearest base. And not so many alien artefacts, a pity for a scientific faction which would have wanted network nodes anyway. I don't know if it's bad luck or a bug, though.

On the contrary, I think random search is interesting. It kept me away for winning the Secret of The Human Brain race, but that's cool. I like when it's not easy!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 21, 2015, 09:15:43 PM
How can I check which Yitzi's I have?

Coming back to the issue of the same version - I understand that we agreed to the latest Yitzi's, but there is also this implicit understanding that we do it purely for compatibility issues. No game rules are supposed to change. So even if I have some unupdated previous version with the drones as before, I still believe this is a correct way to play.

I don't want to agree to the drone rule changed as I believe it brings nothing to the game, on the contrary. Drone management is just badly concealed grind and even if it makes gameplay harder, it's not in the way I want it to.

I can agree to many rule changes and indeed insist on some. We can throw away supply crawlers or choppers or whatever you want. But adding new rules to drones is like making supply crawlers cheaper - only more chores in the long run.

If Vishniac was hurt by the fact of using the new rule, I'm willing to chip in to cover some of his losses. The damage to be assessed by Vishniac and Mart. If most players were hurt, I can destroy something of mine to make up for it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 21, 2015, 09:27:36 PM
I like seeing (potential?) problems solve themselves... ;b;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 21, 2015, 09:47:44 PM
What's the deal with drones? I don't get it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 22, 2015, 12:40:13 AM
If Vishniac was hurt by the fact of using the new rule, I'm willing to chip in to cover some of his losses. The damage to be assessed by Vishniac and Mart. If most players were hurt, I can destroy something of mine to make up for it.
I'm not hurt since (it's no big secret) none of my bases is yet pop 3 and my efficiency prevents b-drones for the moment.

It's just that you and me noticed in the succession game that the default setting of some variable in the .txt makes drone management, yes, a chore; you can have drones popping without knowing why and when. It's something I already noticed playing SP with Yitzi's 3_4
Mart told us putting the variable to 0 would ease that.

So it's not an issue but a question: should we all put it to 0 and be less harassed by super-drones/phantom-drones  ??? ?
Drone management is already not something that makes the game more fun but it's a necessary evil. Now playing at Transcend gives this Moloch even more time. If I could do without unpredictable drones, that would make my day but there must be a vote on it (and Mart should tell us whether I really understood this thing or not...  ;) )
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on June 22, 2015, 01:19:19 AM
... (and Mart should tell us whether I really understood this thing or not...  ;) )
As far as I understand the whole issue, yes, you understand it 100%

And this is a very good question: do all players want to make the drone rules as they were previously (patch 3.3 and generally standard SMAX)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 22, 2015, 01:35:25 AM
So well, for now it seems like me and Vishniac vote Yes.

Mart, please tell me which string it is. It should be 0 by default but is 8 now, right?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on June 22, 2015, 01:43:16 AM
Yes, but let's wait for other players to say what they think about it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 22, 2015, 11:26:11 AM
Sorry for the delay. I was very preoccupied on the weekend.
After looking at drone rules, i find myself paticularly liking 3 (1 + 2) - it allows super-drones to be predictabl although harder to deal with and allows to deal with Pacifism properly
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 22, 2015, 01:17:29 PM
Hm, noted but I think that changing a rule to some middle value is not that desirable. Well, not when the game is in full swing, at least.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 22, 2015, 07:51:00 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 22, 2015, 10:00:20 PM
I haven't seen anything out of ordinary, just normal drones like in SP game. Maybe I need more explanation? Can someone drop me a link that deals with the issue?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 22, 2015, 10:04:35 PM
In my alphax.txt, I have "8" on "drone rule".
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 22, 2015, 10:28:37 PM
Peter, maybe looking at saves from the succession game from the last few days and reading the posts will help.  I don't honestly understand the exact nature of the manifestation of the problem myself, but I'm not an MPlayer and I haven't done the homework.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 23, 2015, 06:43:02 AM
Is it this one?
"0,       ; Drone rules code {1 to 63}"

I haven't edited it before... Btw. Free Drones have a special rule that rioting bases tend to join them. I haven't seen that happening in the game yet but I would love to see it! What are your experiences guys? Have you ever seen a base flipping to the Free Drones before?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 23, 2015, 08:40:36 AM
Quote
Have you ever seen a base flipping to the Free Drones before?
I have. Also, to Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 23, 2015, 11:35:34 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 23, 2015, 01:37:55 PM
For the drone rule: seems like some of us have 0 in their alphax.txt, some of us have 8. May we all put 0, in order to have consistency?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on June 23, 2015, 01:43:53 PM
So, as I see it, majority of players would like to have the drone rule: 0.
If there is no objection from any player, then in alphax.txt this line:
Code: [Select]
8,       ; Drone rules code {1 to 63}can be changed to:
Code: [Select]
0,       ; Drone rules code {1 to 63}
The important note here:
If you are in some other multiplayer game, where the "rule 8" is used, you would need to take care of it, and make sure that you are using correct values.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 23, 2015, 02:44:02 PM
All right, so let's play with 0, I'm comfortable with that the most. I can play with changed rules in future games, however most of it would be related to nerfing OP stuff rather than introducing new fancy rules. Only to fix what's broken, so to say.

Also, I like the way blind research works here. It's a partial randomization, but in a good way which decreases differences between players.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 23, 2015, 03:28:44 PM
The game starts to be very interesting, at least for me. And it's only a very beginning :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 23, 2015, 09:47:17 PM
We've just made 50 turns :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 23, 2015, 11:12:22 PM
Btw., there's a turn -> MORGAN  ;morgan;
attached above
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 24, 2015, 09:13:52 AM
Aye
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 24, 2015, 10:06:44 AM
Your units must have gone rogue, MallaxOZ, and didn't follow your direct order to pull back. I took care of them for you.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 24, 2015, 12:06:22 PM
My god! They were just trying to get through the fungus, to avoid going closer to your base. Your lack of patience is stunning Cap'tain!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 24, 2015, 12:25:01 PM
It was just a ruse to trick you, I'm afraid. They obviously rebelled. They shouted such obscene things about you and the... hmm, demographic dynamics at your faction... I just couldn't stand it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 24, 2015, 07:34:30 PM
Information to be gathered: either the Pirates have a land base or the Cyborgs have a sea base.
In either case it's interesting.
And they are in contact.  Pieces of the puzzle fall into place one by one...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 24, 2015, 10:58:35 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log, 2150

"It's a trap!"
Those were the last words of the exploration teams I've sent. It now seems clear that borders have to be carefully respected. We may have the military to protect our cities, but beware of extending our territory to far. It could end up like the Roman Empire, beaten in a crossfire.

Well, enough mourning. Maybe it's time to go back to the lab and bring out my old books of chemistry. I always told myself that in high energy state, we should be able to create something very strong...

=>  ;deidre;


---

I have a problem. I get a freeze when I'm typing conversation with human player, I had to relaunch the save. It's the second time that the game crash on a conversation window. Is there a problem on that matter?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on June 24, 2015, 11:51:45 PM
...
I have a problem. I get a freeze when I'm typing conversation with human player, I had to relaunch the save. It's the second time that the game crash on a conversation window. Is there a problem on that matter?
I typed messages in diplo screen, but no problems on my comp.
Maybe type shorter ones. I'm not sure, what is max length, but that may something different too.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 25, 2015, 06:07:58 AM
I have a problem. I get a freeze when I'm typing conversation with human player, I had to relaunch the save. It's the second time that the game crash on a conversation window. Is there a problem on that matter?
Or just use PM here.
Faster and longer and more fruitful conversations

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 25, 2015, 08:22:12 AM
I typed messages in diplo screen, but no problems on my comp.
Maybe type shorter ones. I'm not sure, what is max length, but that may something different too.

Indeed, it was a long one.

Or just use PM here.
Faster and longer and more fruitful conversations

You're right, I'll go with that.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 25, 2015, 11:04:55 PM
-> MORGAN  ;morgan;

The aliens don't withdraw from my territory. It looks like they are going to renew vendetta after case-fire.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 26, 2015, 02:22:10 PM
I'm away till Sunday/Monday, lads.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on June 26, 2015, 04:11:41 PM
Ok, so in order to contribute a little bit to humanity survival, I may provide a link to writings of a great strategist (visionary of Chiron's future)
Link (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=91)
(Vel's strategy guide in pdf, version 4.0, here in AC2 download section)
Definitely, worth reading. There are topics, that are together broad in scope. So early game, terraforming, economic growth, specific faction strategies, etc. are there. Mid game and late game, singleplayer and multiplayer.
And then, if someone would like to read more, there are strategy discussions in this forum, apolyton (might be in archives) or maybe Civ fanatics are worth checking too.
This is already 50 turns into the game, but due to "blind research" things develop a bit slower, so we are not that late in the game.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 27, 2015, 06:43:23 AM
Onwards
->  ;ulrik;
P.S. Has the consensus been reached on the drone rule issue?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 27, 2015, 03:21:17 PM
P.S. Has the consensus been reached on the drone rule issue?

Yes, apparently: "0" value for everybody.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 28, 2015, 05:54:56 PM
To Mighty MallaxOZ.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 28, 2015, 07:05:44 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 28, 2015, 07:58:24 PM
Interesting developments: people are going for SPs.
But not the Pirates. That said, how come our good Captain has been #1 in wealth pratically since the beginning? I have a lot myself so he must be up to something...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 28, 2015, 08:02:06 PM
I'm not spending anything so that supply pods could give me more money (it's somewhat related to cash at hand) instead of giving me worms as they do. But sure, let's all gang up on the poor Captain... *whiny face*
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on June 29, 2015, 12:05:39 AM
-> Morgan ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 01, 2015, 08:42:06 AM
-> Kirov  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 01, 2015, 09:40:25 AM
How come our good Foreman has become #1 in wealth this turn? I have a lot myself so he must be up to something...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 01, 2015, 10:17:43 AM
Seems like everybody is up to something ;lol

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 01, 2015, 01:56:08 PM
How come our good Foreman has become #1 in wealth this turn? I have a lot myself so he must be up to something...
Where can I check those stats?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 01, 2015, 09:48:04 PM
Where can I check those stats?
But on the powergraph, Dear Foreman!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 01, 2015, 10:08:21 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 02, 2015, 12:46:34 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 02, 2015, 01:03:25 PM
But on the powergraph, Dear Foreman!

Why did he say that? He must be up to something...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 02, 2015, 08:36:27 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 02, 2015, 10:34:17 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 02, 2015, 10:54:36 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 03, 2015, 09:57:59 AM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 03, 2015, 11:08:25 AM
To the powerful Cyborgs.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 03, 2015, 09:35:16 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 04, 2015, 01:58:54 AM
Wrong save...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 04, 2015, 09:23:08 AM
Oops, too tired last night I guess
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 04, 2015, 10:16:07 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 04, 2015, 12:04:45 PM
Onwards to Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 04, 2015, 08:35:55 PM
We ahve estavlished diplomatic relations with an alien faction
It seems like love of energy binds together even different species
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 05, 2015, 12:56:53 PM
I will never buckle under your threats, MallaxOZ!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 05, 2015, 05:09:38 PM
I will never buckle under your threats, MallaxOZ!

Threats? What threats are you referring to?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 05, 2015, 06:21:50 PM
A French proverb says that "he who wants to kill his dog says it's a mad one".

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 05, 2015, 11:33:42 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 06, 2015, 05:37:51 PM
Onwards
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 06, 2015, 10:45:02 PM
Threats? What threats are you referring to?

Of course I meant "any possible threats, whether express or implied, you may issue or cause to be issued in the future". I'm trying to anticipate here.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 06, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
A French proverb says that "he who wants to kill his dog says it's a mad one".

Quote
That said, how come our good Captain has been #1 in wealth pratically since the beginning? I have a lot myself so he must be up to something...

Wah-waah.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 07, 2015, 11:22:27 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 07, 2015, 12:04:53 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 07, 2015, 11:39:42 PM
->  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 08, 2015, 08:15:15 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 08, 2015, 08:40:15 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 09, 2015, 12:11:51 AM
 ;aki; Aki's log, 2157
Some unknown and unpredictable cloud activity was spotted on the Planet. We don't have the best tools for analyzing what's above our heads, but it 's really weird. Even if I once participated in the programming the Unity Algorithms Auto-Pilot, we are far from returning in the sky. A lot of laws of physics we learned do not fit the characteristics of Chiron. We just don't have the rights tools, or the right materials either. But maybe someone — or something — managed to go in the air. Or at least, have a influence on the atmosphere…

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 09, 2015, 02:00:48 AM
The Gaian Intelligence Agency presents its periodical report on population growth.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 09, 2015, 10:48:04 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 10, 2015, 08:55:33 PM
-> Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 11, 2015, 03:21:47 AM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 10:07:54 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 11, 2015, 02:40:34 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 11, 2015, 10:58:01 PM
-> Morgan
I had some issues with my screen so double check if it's the correct turn. If not, I'll have to redo it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on July 12, 2015, 12:58:06 AM
The turn is correct, 2159
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 12, 2015, 07:14:17 PM
That's just a filename, I edit it every time just before posting it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on July 12, 2015, 09:08:27 PM
Yes, but I loaded it and checked if that's 2159.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 12, 2015, 10:30:31 PM
Cool  8)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 13, 2015, 08:39:36 PM
Expect delays, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 14, 2015, 08:49:45 AM
Not as sorry as i will be
I will be unable to post for the next week, then for 2 weeks.
perhaps a temporary substitution is needed. (
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 10:21:44 AM
It's summer time, some of us take a break, some of us on the contrary have high workloads. My 2 cents is, we don't really need a substitution, we are just going to have a quiet couple of weeks, that's all.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 14, 2015, 01:47:16 PM
It's summer time, some of us take a break, some of us on the contrary have high workloads. My 2 cents is, we don't really need a substitution, we are just going to have a quiet couple of weeks, that's all.
Agreed. I'm fine with a break once in a while. But tell me beforehand so that I won't rush my turn and spend some time tweaking my faction and adjusting my strategy.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 15, 2015, 01:21:05 AM
Managed to do my turn.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 09:29:48 AM
=> ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 15, 2015, 05:23:42 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 16, 2015, 11:50:12 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 19, 2015, 08:29:27 PM
Thanks for bearing with me
-> Kirov
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 21, 2015, 03:52:19 PM
To the Prime Function, the most powerful human (sort of) faction on the Planet. All hail the Skynet!

 :unworthy:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 21, 2015, 04:03:51 PM
I'll play my turns in a couple of days.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 11:12:28 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 23, 2015, 11:59:31 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 24, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
This is a goodbye. I will be back around 8 of august.
Best of everything to you
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on July 25, 2015, 11:39:02 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 09, 2015, 09:18:05 PM
Hello again
-> ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 09, 2015, 09:36:47 PM
Good to see this game back!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 11, 2015, 09:56:09 PM
Can't play right now, but soon enough.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 13, 2015, 10:22:08 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 13, 2015, 05:11:53 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on August 14, 2015, 11:47:56 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 17, 2015, 08:21:08 PM
Dreadfully sorry
I have missed my turn (
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 17, 2015, 08:32:50 PM
What's that 'promote message' thing?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 17, 2015, 09:10:10 PM
I altered some permissions yesterday to allow staff, including CMNs, to promote posts to the Front Page -last I knew of, it's broken, or there's some new hoop to jump sisko hasn't told me about ('cause it used to work before he fiddled with the news over BE; which I finally found out how to make BE promotes work, recently), and I have to just start a new thread in Chiron News Network, like anyone else, but it'll be fixed someday- and you also have access to create articles in Articles now.

-I don't know that it would be even a faintly bad thing to make a Front Page news item of it any time a PBEM is organizing/TTT started.  (Or OCC or Succession Game, or what have you  - I always promoted the heck outta GOTMs, and did so w/ the current succession game.)  I can promote stuff like that elsewhere and draw more MPlayers, some of whom will work out.  Newbs are where little MPlayers come from, you know, but you gotta let the lurkers know you exist...

Articles articles to do with MP stuff would also serve as lurkerbait.  I think you could even create a section just for that, now, ATTN: Mart...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on August 22, 2015, 05:56:43 PM
It looks like the game has expired?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 22, 2015, 08:56:38 PM
Well, i am still hopeful
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 24, 2015, 10:08:03 AM
Prod, prod, Mallaxoz. Are you still there? If you're just busy scheming against me, let us know.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 24, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
Sorry, I've played this week-end and forgot to upload the file.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 24, 2015, 04:54:39 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 25, 2015, 06:01:46 PM
Mates, I'm going to Scotland on Thursday and will be back on 7.09. If I get my turn tomorrow (that's Wednesday), I'll try to squeeze it in.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 25, 2015, 07:48:41 PM
Scotland was cool and Edimburgh a summit of coolness!
I still have my travel guide and a map of the city if you want some advices on food and fun.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 25, 2015, 08:00:19 PM
I'm skipping cities for the Highlands, I'm more of a hiking bloke. We're going N of Glasgow to some national park and planning to hit nearby mountains, then farther N to the area around Fort William, with Ben Nevis, the highest peak on the Isles. Ideally, 20-30km worth of hiking per day, I'm training to my next walking marathon, 100km in October. A pub with local whiskey is all the civilization I'm gonna need. ;) Of course, it's gonna rain like it's a funeral in a Hollywood movie.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 25, 2015, 09:41:15 PM
Of course, it's gonna rain like it's a funeral in a Hollywood movie.
Not necessarily.
We were there end September and had fairly good weather: half-sunny with only rare showers, 15°C
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 07, 2015, 01:06:50 AM
I'm back, guys. :) Peter, how's your turn going?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 08, 2015, 06:07:09 PM
Peter pigned. Is everyone else here?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on September 08, 2015, 06:16:28 PM
I've noticed that pretty much everyone has stopped checking by daily - but they'll turn back up pretty quick, I think, once we get out of this stall we're in ATM.  It's just bad luck coincidences and another turn in the activity cycle that we've seen go round before more than once.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 08, 2015, 07:41:22 PM
I'm still here.
Even if I have a lot of work these days, I think I'll be able to play my turns in 24-48h.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on September 08, 2015, 08:19:02 PM
Still here as well.
Don't think i wil have much trouble making my turns promptly )
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on September 20, 2015, 06:59:13 PM
Sorry guys for the delay,
Next turn to the Morganites!  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on September 22, 2015, 06:55:14 PM
And on we go.
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 23, 2015, 02:57:57 PM
Great to see this game back again! Turned to our future Gov'nor.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 24, 2015, 02:11:13 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 25, 2015, 08:35:02 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on September 26, 2015, 04:50:04 PM
-> Morgan  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on September 26, 2015, 07:15:29 PM
-> Kirov
 ;ulrik;
It seems the aliens do not appreciate free trade as much as we do.
This makes me doubt their rationality
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 26, 2015, 07:26:16 PM
Perhaps this is a cultural thing, Kurvivor? Maybe they believe in sharing, like we do.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 27, 2015, 05:58:39 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 27, 2015, 08:00:26 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;

Those aliens seem nasty! Fortunately, they are not so close.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on October 01, 2015, 11:14:29 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 02, 2015, 07:49:09 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 03, 2015, 12:31:24 AM
To the androids.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 03, 2015, 02:49:19 PM
I'm having an issue with X11 since I upgrade to OS X El Capitan. I'll play asap, when I have the time to fix it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 04, 2015, 07:49:10 PM
El Capitan's new rootless feature seems to block X11 to launch, and thus the Alpha Centauri game. Is anyone using the GOG version?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 07, 2015, 06:51:37 PM
Hm, can you post this issue in the Theory of Everything or somewhere? I do use GOG, but under Windows.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 07, 2015, 07:03:00 PM
Yes, I just posted today (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=17032.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=17032.0)).
Hope I will find some help soon… If not, maybe I need to be replace  :(
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 11, 2015, 10:31:55 PM
Is there any way for you to get your hands on virtually any kind of rig? Literally a Pentium II with Windows 98 would do here, maybe some friend has something like that in their attic?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 12, 2015, 07:29:44 AM
Quote
Is anyone using the GOG version?
I am
For quite a time i was usingbox with Windows XP to run it, then switched to simply running it from under wine (installed with PlayOnLinux).
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 13, 2015, 04:04:23 PM
Now, I'm able to launch the game, but nothing happens… So frustrating!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 16, 2015, 03:49:02 PM
If I don't find a solution in the next in the coming days, I think I'm going to give up…
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 16, 2015, 03:51:46 PM
PM Petek and point him at your TOE thread.  Troubleshooting problems getting the game running is his specialty.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 16, 2015, 03:52:55 PM
PM Petek and point him at your TOE thread.  Troubleshooting problems getting the game running is his specialty.

I'll do that!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 16, 2015, 03:55:49 PM
Try member 551262 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=profile;u=11374 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=profile;u=11374)) too - he's a Mac guy.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on October 16, 2015, 10:10:09 PM
GOG has a community forum, and SMACX has a subforum:
https://www.gog.com/forum/sid_meier_s_alpha_centauri_#1444767935 (https://www.gog.com/forum/sid_meier_s_alpha_centauri_#1444767935)

There is a thread OSX 11.
They mention disabling SIP.

They say something about SIP here:
http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/193368/what-is-the-rootless-feature-in-el-capitan-really (http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/193368/what-is-the-rootless-feature-in-el-capitan-really)

But I am no Mac user, so I'm not much knowledgeable about this all.

In Gog they mention, Gog could release a patch for OSX 11.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 20, 2015, 09:04:48 AM
 :danc: :danc: :danc: I can play again  :danc: :danc: :danc:

I have a ton of work to do, but I'll play tonight or tomorrow if I don't have enough time.
I had to reinstall the game during the process. Can you please remind me what files shall be change and which patch is used? Thx a lot.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 27, 2015, 11:07:52 AM
I'm quite sure it's Yitzi's last one, 3.4, and that's it as for the changes.

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=291 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=291)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 27, 2015, 03:29:11 PM
It's so good to play again  :P
=>  ;deidre;

One more thing, what do I need to change in order to have only the factions that I've really met in the conversation panel?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on October 27, 2015, 08:46:47 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on October 28, 2015, 11:54:19 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 31, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
Sorry for delay on my part
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 31, 2015, 05:19:40 PM
Good to see you back, guys!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 31, 2015, 08:02:47 PM
Seems like the wrong save? "law&faith"
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 31, 2015, 08:12:57 PM
Lol, you're right. :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 31, 2015, 08:33:19 PM
It's so good to play again  :P
=>  ;deidre;

One more thing, what do I need to change in order to have only the factions that I've really met in the conversation panel?

Find this line in your alphax.txt:

1,       ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in hotseat/email games

and set to zero. Remember, you probably don't want to do that. It's legal to spy on other players via the right click on their name, which yields you their population and SE settings - a wealth of information about their growth and tech choices.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 31, 2015, 08:40:49 PM
=>  ;deidre;

Thank you Kirov for the infos!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 01, 2015, 05:20:51 PM
GNN - Gaian News Network announces to you that the Human Genome Project will be completed next year in one of our bases.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on November 10, 2015, 03:48:12 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 11, 2015, 06:51:52 PM
to whoever os next
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 11, 2015, 07:13:32 PM
Congratulations, wise Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 12, 2015, 04:30:41 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 12, 2015, 05:41:32 PM
It's already 2167, I have quite a few forests but I still haven't seen any growth.
Is there anything in the code of our game stopping forests to spread? Has anybody seen it yet?

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 12, 2015, 05:51:22 PM
It's already 2167, I have quite a few forests but I still haven't seen any growth.
Is there anything in the code of our game stopping forests to spread? Has anybody seen it yet?

I don't remember in this game, but I use this copy for several other games where the forest spreads all right. For best results, try planting it in checkers, as it has equal chance of spreading to all adjacent tiles.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on November 18, 2015, 08:14:20 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 18, 2015, 09:17:12 PM
-> Kirov
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 18, 2015, 09:30:29 PM
zoxallam
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 19, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 20, 2015, 06:22:08 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on November 20, 2015, 05:44:01 PM
-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 20, 2015, 05:51:46 PM
-> Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 20, 2015, 08:12:42 PM
Cyborgs.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 21, 2015, 06:45:19 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 21, 2015, 09:27:19 PM
The game is cruising again. Good!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Peter Gray on November 21, 2015, 10:31:50 PM
Bad news guys, I've just updated to the latest Ubuntu Linux and unfortunately, my graphics went down and are almost unreadable. I was able to make the turn but probably I'll need a replacement. TBH, I'm more of a very casual gamer lately and I'm not willing to force myself to play the game just for the sake of it. With the graphics going down I don't even feel like I want to bother with finding a solution or anything.

Sorry if that's disappointing and I did enjoy the game. I'm willing to make just few more turns until you are able to find a replacement. I believe that while my faction is week, I've build enough bases for anyone to take it from here.

Once again, sorry guys!

-> Morgan
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 28, 2015, 08:48:56 AM
Terribly sorry about your problems, Peter
Sometimes Linux just decides to ruin your fun. For example, my VMs stopped launching several days ago. if i wasn't running AC on wine, i would be unable to play at all...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 01, 2015, 01:31:42 PM
Thanks for the info, Peter, sorry to hear you have to go, take care there!

And we will need to find replacement soon.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 01, 2015, 02:30:58 PM
The replacement thread is here:

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=17192.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=17192.0)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 01, 2015, 06:19:42 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 01, 2015, 08:52:43 PM
To the Free Drones, whoever their new leader may be.  ;domai;

And thanks to Peter who did a difficult job prospering despite the threat of the powerful Caretakers!

I noticed that the Command Nexus was completed this turn without warning.
Shall we make it so from now on or do we keep the old habit of warning of completion the turn before?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 01, 2015, 09:06:36 PM
I noticed that the Command Nexus was completed this turn without warning.
Shall we make it so from now on or do we keep the old habit of warning of completion the turn before?

This notice is just a good manner, a warning to others that they won't get the same Project this turn even if they wanted to, so spare your crawlers. It's not a serious breach if you don't know it, but personally I will always follow and will recommend this custom.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 02, 2015, 10:01:23 AM
My bad, I have a heavy workload at the moment, so I posted my turn quickly without thinking.
Indeed, the Consciousness have created the Command Nexus this year.

I used to write in Aki's personal log, as I love role-playing my PBEM, but this end of year is a bit crazy for me: I'm launching a company, my wife is launching another, while I maintain my freelance activity to keep an income in the meantime.

It's no picnic ;morganercise
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on December 02, 2015, 06:33:00 PM
We have replacement for Drones.
Password sent.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on December 02, 2015, 08:56:39 PM
Hi, all!

As you may already suspect a new leader means some reforms are going to be implemented.
Since it takes time, please bear with me for the first turn.

I will likely be able to play this turn this Saturday.

Thanks for having me :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 15, 2015, 05:25:52 PM
I will likely be able to play this turn this Saturday.
"This Saturday" was ten days ago. Any unexpected problem?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on December 19, 2015, 02:54:44 PM
Two things actually, but not trying to find an excuse.

I will be able to play it later today and from then on it will be quick.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on December 20, 2015, 07:31:05 AM
Here we go, apologies again.

To  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 21, 2015, 06:32:52 PM
Glad to have things moving again
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
Welcome onboard, bin Travkin! Let us prosper, united in harmony.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 21, 2015, 10:46:02 PM
=>  ;deidre;

It might be the last turn for me this year, as I take a few days off! Maybe I can play between work and family, but it will be hard.
Merry Christmas to you all!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 22, 2015, 12:27:57 PM
Merry Christmas to all!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on December 23, 2015, 08:52:18 AM
Merry Christmas!

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 26, 2015, 09:25:02 AM
Merry Christmas!
p.s. The term of 'merry christmas' is copytighted to Morgan Inc. as are number of terms from the old Earth, including hannukkah, quanza and many more others. One must pay to copyright holders before using them.
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 26, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Merry ChristmasTM, you all. Enjoy it while it lasts, wmahahaha.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 05, 2016, 04:38:42 PM
=>  ;deidre;

Happy new year everybody :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 12, 2016, 11:18:23 AM
Sorry for the absence: due to cable problem, I was without internet for one full week.
I'll be back in business in 6 hours when back from work.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 12, 2016, 06:41:52 PM
Back for good!  :)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on January 15, 2016, 05:11:09 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 17, 2016, 07:49:17 PM
Once again, we are plagued by accursed mindworms...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 17, 2016, 08:06:52 PM
I love it how the Planet sends her anti-bodies against us and we can still make profit off of them. There's a moral to it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 19, 2016, 10:44:38 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 19, 2016, 06:20:45 PM
I love it how the Planet sends her anti-bodies against us and we can still make profit off of them. There's a moral to it.
Indeed! Our good CEO would be well advised to invest some of his resources into defence forces: it can pay huge benefits.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on January 23, 2016, 05:39:46 PM
To  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 23, 2016, 08:41:41 PM
Those benefits are just eating up by life insurances!
Note to insurance department: exclude 'eaten by mindworms' clause from all future contracts
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 23, 2016, 10:35:44 PM
Hang on there, CEO! I'll come to help you.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 25, 2016, 12:48:52 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 25, 2016, 06:01:38 PM
Something weird in this game: not only the forests doesn't spread but it's the 4th time a Unity pod sends one of my units into a dimensional gate...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on January 26, 2016, 08:37:58 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 27, 2016, 08:23:12 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 27, 2016, 09:46:49 PM
To the most clever Cyborgs. First in tech, well well well!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 28, 2016, 01:02:13 PM
I don't know about cleverness, but it's true that my lab guys are pretty effective! My faction claims to be 20% more productive than the average, but I really never do the math…

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 28, 2016, 05:39:35 PM
Finally, I noticed one forest spreading. But I didn't get the message.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on January 29, 2016, 05:43:28 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 29, 2016, 08:12:01 PM
Some speed, huh?
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 03, 2016, 10:48:32 AM
Jinxed it  :'(
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 05, 2016, 12:56:04 PM
Curses! Sorry for that, didn't get or notice the notification.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 05, 2016, 01:50:15 PM
To the Lady
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 05, 2016, 05:21:39 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 05, 2016, 06:07:09 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 05, 2016, 08:58:15 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 06, 2016, 03:12:25 AM
 ;chef;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 06, 2016, 11:15:50 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 06, 2016, 05:37:41 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 06, 2016, 07:49:29 PM
To The CEO ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 09, 2016, 06:56:27 AM
My turn to miss turn, huh
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 09, 2016, 08:22:17 AM
And onwards before you can even say 'Ahoy!'.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 09, 2016, 09:55:23 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 09, 2016, 12:33:05 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 09, 2016, 03:32:41 PM
Aliens make contact with Free Drone units and declare extermination of all humans to be their goal!  ???  :o

Keep movin! :)

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 10, 2016, 05:59:44 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 10, 2016, 09:45:39 PM
Aliens make contact with Free Drone units and declare extermination of all humans to be their goal!  ???  :o

Keep movin! :)

 ;morgan;

Darn! is he making any moves towards you? Keep reporting!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 11, 2016, 04:43:48 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 11, 2016, 09:28:56 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 12, 2016, 06:17:48 AM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 13, 2016, 11:12:13 AM
To our brave Captain
Were you successful in your sea exploration - that is, in finding all other human factions?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 14, 2016, 06:33:55 PM
To our brave Captain
Were you successful in your sea exploration - that is, in finding all other human factions?

You don't want to meet them, they're quite mean.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 14, 2016, 07:03:07 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 14, 2016, 10:51:26 PM
To our brave Captain
Were you successful in your sea exploration - that is, in finding all other human factions?
The brave Captain has this advantage that he is the only one able to call for governor election. It shall be at the time of its choice or maybe never.

Infrastructure is all fine and dandy but it can be horribly expensive. To mitigate this problem, Gaians engineers are proud to announce the completion next turn of The Planetary Energy Grid.  8)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 15, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 17, 2016, 06:17:17 PM
2 the captain
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 17, 2016, 09:16:13 PM
Congratulations, Vishniac! You're truly the most powerful of us all.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on February 17, 2016, 09:23:14 PM
Maybe I should make this smilie a cigar... ;hero
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 18, 2016, 12:43:12 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 18, 2016, 04:35:59 PM
Congratulations, Vishniac! You're truly the most powerful of us all.
It's only soft power; I can't boast of having a far-reaching navy enhanced with special forces (even if I'd like  :P)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 18, 2016, 04:47:14 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 18, 2016, 06:28:30 PM
And on we go
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 19, 2016, 03:09:43 AM
Gentlemen, let us rejoice! The Planetary Transit System is nearing completion! This calls for a week of binge drinking and pillaging for all me mateys. Avast!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 19, 2016, 09:20:39 AM
Congrats you all for your SPs!

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 19, 2016, 12:09:29 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 19, 2016, 03:12:22 PM
Aliens attack Fort Freedom!
Defenders take huge losses as Free Drone weaponry is no match to alien advanced technology.

-- newsflash MY 2182


 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 21, 2016, 09:10:22 PM
Were there any demands made by the vile xenos?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 21, 2016, 09:36:48 PM
I don't think they expect us to talk, I think they expect us to die.

How are you doing there, Foreman?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 22, 2016, 09:55:08 AM
Aki's statement  ;aki;

Native aliens just landed on our coast, from a weird boat. A boat made by… worms. Those things swim like as fast as our gun boats! Just one loss so far, but we have to take care of ourselves. That is a wild world, cyborgs. I ordered Children Creches to be opening late at night, for who wants to take extra hours of works, and volonteer for our AME sessions (Army Training Evenings).

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 22, 2016, 05:14:34 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;

Those aliens are nasty.
I've already encountered some 4-3-1 impact infantries along my borders; my worms crawled away as fast as they can...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 22, 2016, 07:18:19 PM
Aliens use native life to flank attack Free Drone relief force!
Terraform crews have been dispatched to set up sensor network in the area.

-- newsflash, MY 2183


 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 23, 2016, 06:50:49 PM
 ;ulrik;
Can you tell us more about those xenos?
What their faction?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 23, 2016, 09:20:15 PM
On.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 24, 2016, 11:19:58 AM
2184

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 24, 2016, 04:56:52 PM
The High Council of Gaia, considering that the building of the Planetary Transit System by the Pirates allows them to reach unlimited horizontal growth, decided to compensate this threat by consolidating our vertical growth.
The Virtual World will be completed next turn on one of our bases.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 24, 2016, 05:25:07 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 26, 2016, 10:41:24 AM
Doe to some issues i will only be able to make a turn tomorrow.
Extremely sorry
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 27, 2016, 10:05:05 AM
our scout units have discovered elements of yet another xenos faction!
Those aliens had no interest in establishing trade relations, and quickly went from forceful demands to outright agression.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 27, 2016, 03:32:03 PM
The High Council of Gaia, considering that the building of the Planetary Transit System by the Pirates allows them to reach unlimited horizontal growth, decided to compensate this threat by consolidating our vertical growth.
The Virtual World will be completed next turn on one of our bases.

So to recap - you'd built 2 Project already, but when I got my first, you felt so threatened that you just had to take your third one? Got it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 27, 2016, 05:17:58 PM
I'm off for a week, until next sunday, so take your time ;)

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 27, 2016, 07:05:40 PM
So to recap - you'd built 2 Project already, but when I got my first, you felt so threatened that you just had to take your third one? Got it.
A child can read the powergraph and take conclusions, and his and mine would be the same...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on February 27, 2016, 07:44:53 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 28, 2016, 09:28:03 AM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 28, 2016, 02:43:04 PM
We should all relax more.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 07, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
I'm back!

To Lord Vishniac
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 07, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
To the Foreman!  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on March 08, 2016, 11:17:53 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 10, 2016, 05:04:19 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 10, 2016, 08:00:44 PM
 ;roze;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 12, 2016, 03:05:12 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 12, 2016, 07:55:19 PM
To the drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on March 12, 2016, 08:54:47 PM
First Free Drone attempt at counter-attack at aliens fails with huge losses, as part of attacking force wiped out by another alien ambush from fungus.
Aliens broadcast message on Free Drone unencrypted frequency: "Resistance: Futile. Humans: Surrender or Die."

- Free Drone Datalinks, MY 2187


 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 19, 2016, 05:46:29 PM
Sorry for dealy
and doubly sorry that they will contionue
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 19, 2016, 08:35:06 PM
My god, those wretched aliens.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 19, 2016, 09:12:12 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 20, 2016, 08:02:34 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on March 20, 2016, 09:22:44 AM
And back to  ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 20, 2016, 03:37:47 PM
And onward
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 20, 2016, 07:41:28 PM
Now the Triad is complete and my Fundie/Green/Wealth choice means I have a society full of obnoxious posh radical douchebag hipsters. I run what Donald [Sleezebag] thinks the EU is. You will all switch to organic food with low carbon footprint and free-trade latte or face biting ridicule on the most trendy social media these days, and MySpace which I use ironically.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 21, 2016, 09:32:28 AM
To the gaians, who for sure already adopt organic food with low carbon footprint   ;lol
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 21, 2016, 12:06:54 PM
Fundamentalism is a pretty radical choice (pun intended).
I wonder what needs it fulfills... ;)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on March 21, 2016, 03:42:47 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 23, 2016, 09:04:51 PM
It makes me glad that our good captain has presense on all sides of a continent (though it is not so surprising)
But what i want to - no - need to know: am i stuck together with some crazy xenos on this island?
Dear foreman: what do these alens you are warring with call themselves?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 24, 2016, 01:58:08 PM
Don't worry, Foreman, the cavalry is here, I have your back. In fact, I'm right behind you. EVERYBODY RELAX!!!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 24, 2016, 09:09:55 PM
To the Gaians
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 25, 2016, 07:33:18 AM
Don't worry, Foreman, the cavalry is here, I have your back. In fact, I'm right behind you. EVERYBODY RELAX!!!

(http://dal-news.com/wp-content/uploads/9975-2.jpg)

To the drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on March 25, 2016, 08:53:51 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 27, 2016, 09:09:14 AM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 27, 2016, 04:10:09 PM
(http://dal-news.com/wp-content/uploads/9975-2.jpg)


This looks like an anti-Jewish propaganda poster from Germany 1918. That's an interesting hobby you have! :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 27, 2016, 04:35:53 PM
Dear Foreman, you'll be pleased to know that I'm ready to strike at Tower Preserve any minute now. My plan is to wreak havoc with my covert ops units and then move in with my corps. When Tower Preserve falls, this will break his supply lines and make the eastern parts of your faction completely safe. As you can probably see, Worlds: Within Worlds poses much more considerable challenge, but I expect to deal with it sooner rather than later, too. This will completely seal off the progenitor-animals and finally bring peace to your troubled citizens. Salute, comrade!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 27, 2016, 09:05:29 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 27, 2016, 10:15:02 PM
This looks like an anti-Jewish propaganda poster from Germany 1918. That's an interesting hobby you have! :)
Now that you say that: I put the French for "stab in the back" in Google and this picture was the only thing that wasn't a propaganda poster with a jew stabbing a German soldier. That's pretty weird! I would have thought there could be something out of Game of Thrones or some other pop culture movie...

To the Drones!  ;domai;


Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on March 28, 2016, 03:34:49 PM
 ;morgan;

The assistance of the Pirates is most welcome.
It will take a lot of warriors to defeat the hordes of genocidal alien invaders.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 30, 2016, 08:46:11 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 30, 2016, 11:32:17 PM
My next turn will be played Monday morning CET.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 02, 2016, 01:08:11 AM
Sorry guys, i was in a hurry and didnt manage to do my turn. Im back on Wednesday. Going for some hiking. See you soon!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 06, 2016, 02:20:57 PM
So sorry for the delay!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 06, 2016, 07:12:25 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 08, 2016, 08:36:23 PM
It is my turn to delay; I will not be able to post until Monday
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 09, 2016, 06:16:14 PM
And it took me longer than usual.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on April 10, 2016, 11:01:32 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 15, 2016, 04:00:23 PM
Extremely sorry for this delay (((
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 18, 2016, 12:40:46 PM
And onwards!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 18, 2016, 06:15:51 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 18, 2016, 08:02:54 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on April 19, 2016, 06:29:46 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 19, 2016, 09:51:04 PM
 ;ulrik;
This planet does not agree with me. Our company is being subjected to extortions and is preyed upon by damned worms
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 21, 2016, 05:07:14 PM
;ulrik;
This planet does not agree with me. Our company is being subjected to extortions and is preyed upon by damned worms

And don't even get me started on the other players! Good we have this Kirov fella onboard.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 22, 2016, 11:55:09 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 23, 2016, 07:30:59 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on April 23, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
1 reload. I accidentally loaded it in the wrong version of game. Had to close and start the right one. Sorry about that.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 25, 2016, 08:11:30 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 25, 2016, 10:17:19 PM
And on!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 26, 2016, 12:33:45 PM
 ;aki; Aki's log — 2195

Cyborgs really are wonderful people. They amaze me every single day.

I'm always in doubt: am I the leader they deserve? Are my decisions the good ones? Should I be more protective? Am I taking too much risk in order to pursue my science dream? I'm remembering again the news flash of a missing boat, a team of our best biology scientists assigned to probe the ocean. Everyone told me not to send them since, as precious as the data should be, the water were not safe in this area. Sea worms and some Pirates were lurking nearby. I decided to not listen. In a way, I murdered them. On this day, I knew for sure that any research to improve our maritime control was a dead end. I gave up hope. Dark days.

While I was blaming myself and thought that everyone would resent my decision, quite another thing happen. In every cities, all of my citizens gathered spontaneously. They stood up, to honor those who are gone. They did not blame me for a sec. They blamed this planet. They blamed those worms. They blamed the humans who spoiled Earth and forced us to establish colonies in a dangerous environment. They were determined to not let it go.

A petition to open-source the strategic informations of the Command Nexus has been filed by thousands of Cyborgs developers. I immediately accepted their request. The next weeks was simply amazing: tons of projets were launched, from camp training of self-defense or first-aid to military practice. Discipline replaced horror and fear. I'm proud of the courage of this mind shift, and I decided to unblock funds to help this movement, in order to build defensive infrastructures in every city. Availability in early 2196, for what is already famously called, The Cyborgs Citizens' Defense Force.

 

=>  ;deidre;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 26, 2016, 07:17:51 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on April 26, 2016, 08:16:57 PM
Either I again loaded in the wrong version of game or there was an issue with my graphics card, but everything looked a bit strange visually.
Nevertheless, I played it to not have another reload.
If you notice anything strange on your turn, I can replay.

I am not sure what happened because I have suspicion that my graphics card is nearing the end of its life, so it may have been just a graphics glitch.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 27, 2016, 08:29:08 PM
 ;ulrik;

I am sorry to say that i will not be able to make turns for about a week
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 28, 2016, 12:14:26 AM
Prime Function, I'm so happy for your CDF!  :danc:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 28, 2016, 10:57:21 AM
Prime Function, I'm so happy for your CDF!  :danc:

Thanks my friend  ;)

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 29, 2016, 12:26:27 PM
I'm away till Wednesday, my lads.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 30, 2016, 01:58:46 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on April 30, 2016, 03:10:58 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 08, 2016, 09:33:12 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 09, 2016, 11:05:23 AM
Seeing as my neighbour Prime Function (a jolly good fella if occasionally a probe rapist) completed his CDF, my lads, my craft-beer-sipping, guacamole-eating, Segway-riding, ironic-moustache-sporting Pirates decided to chip in and buy me a nice Maritime Control Center for my birthday. This will come in handy with our "To Pursue & Harass" doctrine.

Also, we couldn't help but notice a sudden drop in everyone's powergraph except for Lord Vishniac's. Could it be that he's just prototyped some fancy wunderwaffe? If so, congratulations to Lord Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 09, 2016, 02:49:31 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 10, 2016, 06:23:06 AM
Nothing noticeable on my side but the Captain lost a few population points. That could explain.

A general question concerning the Maritime Control Center: of all factions, the Pirates are the ones getting the smallest advantage of building it. Is +2 naval moves really worth the minerals then?
I was wondering whether you would build it or not; I guess it's self-answering then but it could be more a "SP by default".

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 10, 2016, 11:36:00 AM
Oh, I believe that the MCC is a powerful, and vastly underestimated, tool in the hands of any hybrid player. The Naval Yard is negligible, but +2 move means more effective probe teams, better scouting and smoother transport logistics. In short, any aggressive player worth their salt should have an eye on the MCC. Which is why I took it - for denial value. We don't want it to fall into the hands of our powerful, "assertive" neighbours, now do we? Fortunately, a tragedy has been averted. Don't mention it.

For reals, though, the MCC is powerful if used and used wisely. ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 14, 2016, 12:16:02 PM
More of a denial move then.

I up the thread in case Bin Travkin looks at the last poster's name.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on May 15, 2016, 02:13:00 PM
Sorry for delay, I will try to move turn today.

Reason of delay: dead PC.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 16, 2016, 03:18:50 PM
This is unfortunate
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 23, 2016, 12:53:19 PM
 :stickpoke:?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on May 23, 2016, 06:00:27 PM
Sorry.
Now played it and had one reload.
I had borrowed a computer and it was not working correctly @ first.
Will get my own back working @ start of June.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 27, 2016, 06:32:07 PM
Our prayers go out to you
->  ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 30, 2016, 07:35:34 PM
Guys, I'm afraid I'm gonna need a couple of days more with this turn. Sorry for that.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 03, 2016, 05:53:55 PM
I'm really sorry for the delay, I was quite busy in RL and I knew that this turn was going to need my full focus.

Gentlemen! In the recent weeks, my frontier troops were many times put 'on alert' when they spotted an airborne unit on their radars. Since we're quite sure that as of now, noone has any air forces to speak of, this can only mean that the Drones sent their choppah (which we'd seen before) on recon incursions into our territory. This is a direct violation of our border no-go demands, which we expressly stated to the Drones, fearing that they will go down the path of the Cyborgs.

Nevertheless, this they did. And as previously, we felt compelled to retaliate with a FULL-ON NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST!!!  ;nuke; ;nuke; ;nuke;

Sadly, we have no nukes yet. Barring that, we went with the next best thing - conventional warfare - and eliminated several Drones units. The further scale of the conflict is up to both parties.

Oh, even I am not that hypocritical - it's also about money; I'll go out and say that I was surprised, insulted and threatened by the Drones' hasty attempt to encircle us and beat us to the alien spoils of war (how many units have you thrown at their HQ, Foreman?). We arrived at the alien territory in the times when the Foreman lamented his dire situation. How could I know it was just a ruse and he was in fact in a pretty good shape all along? At any rate, it is us who pushed the aliens at great cost and as their conqueror and as the Captain of the Pirates of Chiron, I hereby rightfully claim any territory held previously by the so-called 'Caretakers'. I have a beef with the aliens and will personally see to it that every one last of them is dead. In fact, most of them already are. I'm afraid I can't let anyone stand between me and their wealth and blood. I hope you understand - it's a Pirate thing.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 04, 2016, 07:36:22 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 05, 2016, 06:41:09 PM
So now it comes to this: men killing men on an alien world.
A sad day...

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on June 06, 2016, 04:39:40 PM
Yup, the usual Pirate way.
Wait until someone does heavy lifting and then come in to take spoils.

 ;morgan;


Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 11, 2016, 01:24:27 PM
->  ;ulrik;
Extremely sorry for such a long delay
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 14, 2016, 01:31:23 PM
Yup, the usual Pirate way.
Wait until someone does heavy lifting and then come in to take spoils.

You sound bitter, but I came because of this:

Quote
Aliens attack Fort Freedom!
Defenders take huge losses as Free Drone weaponry is no match to alien advanced technology.

I decided to neutralize this threat to mankind and I invested so much in beating the aliens on my own (actually believing that you're 'no match to alien advanced technology') that I don't see any reason to share the spoils now. In fact, you've got away with taking Tower Preserve already. Decision:Manifold and Vinculum would be just too much.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on June 14, 2016, 02:30:53 PM
So, was it helping Drones, or taking territory then? :P  :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 14, 2016, 04:39:25 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 15, 2016, 03:55:42 PM
So, was it helping Drones, or taking territory then? :P  :D

Perhaps, this war is about something bigger than you and me. Perhaps, it is about values. Values which haven’t been invented yet. Values too unfathomable for such puny, pre-transcend minds like ours. Veleration. Kirovance. Proprudelity.

Yeah, this definitely looks like a Proprudelity War to me.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 15, 2016, 08:52:26 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;

Your wars must be pretty lethal for me and my 3 mindworms to become the top military power.
So let me remind all of you of the obvious with a little song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWmlRNfLck (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpWmlRNfLck)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 16, 2016, 04:12:19 PM

Your wars must be pretty lethal for me and my 3 mindworms to become the top military power.


My God, so it came to this. Me and my former frenemies, Prime Function and Foreman, putting aside our differences and standing up together against Vishniac's Legions. Gentlemen! Let us unite! Better to die on our feet than live on our knees. Kurvivor, wanna join our alliance?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 17, 2016, 12:06:31 PM
I will have to discuss it with other prospective members through appropriate channels (comlink) first. Company policy...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 20, 2016, 06:11:27 PM
I will have to discuss it with other prospective members through appropriate channels (comlink) first. Company policy...

If they probe raped you or infiltrated your borders, I feel it would be on me. Yeah, I know I'm quixotic, maybe tad overprotective. I know my flaws! In the meantime, I think it's best if I humbly serve as your middle-man.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 28, 2016, 09:22:02 AM
binTravkin?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 29, 2016, 09:51:17 AM
And here i was worried that my week-long work trip would have a detrimental effect...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 29, 2016, 04:50:06 PM
...What's it going to take to put a stop to this plague of vacations for the MPlayers -and jobs and babies for the CMNs, who apparently manage to work and/or have sex IRL- and get things rolling in he MCave again?

SOMEbody should be doing a massive flood of PMs and emails and shameless nagging w/o remorse, let or pity - and that's an MJob, and not my place...  :whip:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 02, 2016, 03:59:11 PM
I've just sent a death threat from BU to binTravkin. That'll teach him.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 02, 2016, 06:37:21 PM
Work AND have sex? Totally unacceptable!  ::) ;lol

Sorry guys, for some reason I did not get notified previously, but the Kirov's death threats came through with a bang.

I did some un-marking of auto-marked-spam and should be smooth from now on.

In other news - hearing of Pirate atrocities in alien heartlands, the remaining aliens from a base captured by Free Drones have requested asylum in Free Drone lands "as far as possible from sea-humans".

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2016, 06:55:16 PM
-I checked your notifications and they were set to ping you only about moderation in threads to which you're subscribed - fixed, now.

Was my death threat clever and original, at least?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 02, 2016, 06:58:16 PM
Don't worry, you nailed it. He did his turn within an hour, didn't he? ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 02, 2016, 06:58:44 PM
;king

Work AND have sex? Totally unacceptable!  ::) ;lol
Well, I'm pretty sure Kirov only works, FWIW...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 05, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
Kurvivor, are you there?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 05, 2016, 06:22:19 PM
Blame the death threat on sisko this time, but do send one...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 05, 2016, 08:58:17 PM
...In case anyone takes that seriously on any level in any way - no, send him sweet talk and a bribe offer - but still have him bill sisko for the bribe money, not me...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 05, 2016, 10:50:51 PM
You see that, Kurvivor? He's in his good mood. Just do your turn and nobody needs to get hurt.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 05, 2016, 11:12:17 PM
...I'm in a terrible mood this week - I just adore Kurvivor, as do we all...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 11, 2016, 07:03:14 AM
I am sorry to say that i was off the grid this week - no internet connectin, no phone, no mail, no anything.
I will make the turn ASAP.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 12, 2016, 12:37:35 PM
 ;ulrik;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 13, 2016, 10:45:31 AM
In other news - hearing of Pirate atrocities in alien heartlands, the remaining aliens from a base captured by Free Drones have requested asylum in Free Drone lands "as far as possible from sea-humans".

Did I read that right? Everyone’s been complaining about the aliens for close to 100 years, and now that I grabbed them by the throat, they’re friggin’ baby seals now? You do realize that you’ve extended to them much more courtesy than what was shown to Syrian refugees? (sick burn, EU!) I’m sorry, Foreman, but I’m not going to let it go. Each and every alien will be charged with terrorism, tried accordingly and put to death. Any human who helps them will be considered an accomplice and traitor, and also tried accordingly.

EDIT: Oooh, I see. You were talking about ‘asylum’, but in reality you’ve just obliterated the base in question and executed all those ‘asylum seekers’. :D Heh, now we’re talking. I must say I admire your shameless and callous hypocrisy, dear Foreman. Well played, well played. You set a new low for humanity and I’m loving every inch of it. Let the race to the bottom commence!

And FYI, all the Drone citizens have just filed for asylum protection in the Pirates’ lands. You know, just a heads-up.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2016, 10:47:52 AM
I'll grant you that, you're a true Pirate, dear captain.
The old school pirate type of taking pride in being a marauder, boasting of other's achievements and accusing everyone else of their own misdeeds. :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2016, 12:12:21 PM
Hey guys,
I will be able to make my turn in a few days, around the end of the next week probably.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 18, 2016, 07:15:24 AM
Ha!
i will probably be unable to make a turn for 2 weeks (or maybe i will, i have no idea whether i will have internet connection)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 24, 2016, 09:31:47 AM
To Vishniac
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 03, 2016, 05:48:55 PM
I took my time since Kurvivor won't be ready for a few days but you'll see you didn't wait in vain:

PLANETARY GOVERNOR ELECTION

I was finally able to corrupt some aliens to get the good CEO's commlink.
Now, vote...accordingly to your conscience!  8)

Here are the population numbers so far:
- Pirates: 59
- Gaians: 50
- Cyborgs: 44
- Free Drones: 33
- Morganites: 12

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 05, 2016, 02:09:04 PM
As a matter of fact, i was freed a week earlier.
I should have probably told so, to think of it
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on August 05, 2016, 02:12:07 PM
-Turn coming today, of course. ;nod
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 05, 2016, 02:58:47 PM
I was finally able to corrupt some aliens to get the good CEO's commlink.
Now, vote...accordingly to your conscience!  8)

Finally! All of humanity together on the same board! I think we should call this day "Humanity Day". Well done, Lord Vishniac! This perfectly shows what you're capable of.  ;b;

Which brings me to the election. I think we all know whom to vote for. The times are tough and let me be the first to admit that I'm a total wuss about it. We need a strongman in the office. Someone who's tired of all that political correctness and who finds it nauseating to keep calling weapons of mass destruction, 'weapons of mass destruction'. Someone who's not afraid to ask why the Free Drones faction harbours the most Mexicans.

Gentlemen, I ask you, nay, implore you to vote for Lord Vishniac. He's powerful and has great potential; he has better PR than his dragged-into-wars opponent. And although most elections turn into bitter rivalry over votes, I think it's time we break with this tradition. I commit and promise to cast my votes on Lord Vishniac and I would be most happy if we could make it anonymous. Please don't haggle - now it's not the time to gamble on our species' future for personal gains. No, without price tags and strings attached, let us all vote for Lord Vishniac. Make Chiron Great Again!

I can't stress it enough - I won't get elected anyway so I decided to vote for Lord Vishniac and you will see that's true. Our duo's votes are enough to put him in office. I do it for free, without any negotiations, any expectations. Let's all do the same, shall we? Let's all just do that one fair thing in our lives.

Hail Vishniac! Hail Vishniac! Hail Vishniac!

 ;king
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 15, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
Isn't it binTravkin's turn?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 15, 2016, 09:43:17 PM
It is. Don't forget to vote for Vishniac! Hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on August 24, 2016, 05:34:28 PM
Hi guys and sorry for delays!
I am back from vacation, illness and absence of proper computer, so should be smooth from my side from now on.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 24, 2016, 09:48:21 PM
Company policy towards the democratic process is: one who pays, decides
Congratulations, i believe, are in order, Vishniak?

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 29, 2016, 01:10:36 PM
Sorry for the delay.

Lads, I'm proud of you. For the first time in the history of SMAC, the governor vote is unanimous. And for the best candidate there is, to boot. This proves that despite all the violence and oppression, we can learn from our past mistakes. Let us all sing Kumbaya! We deserve it. You all deserve it.

*opens his arms to all of you*


Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 29, 2016, 01:18:47 PM
Not unanimous, as the Cyborgs does not have taken the time to vote yet :)

Rough days of work for me right now, as all of my clients want their projects finish for September, but I try to do my turn before the end of the week.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 29, 2016, 01:25:24 PM
Not unanimous, as the Cyborgs does not have taken the time to vote yet :)

Oh yes, but as the most rational faction, there is no doubt who you will vote for. Take your time, buddy. And hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 05, 2016, 01:27:59 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 10, 2016, 08:59:59 AM
To reward you all my friends for this election, I invite you to agree to a

GLOBAL TRADE PACT

Let's prosper together in peace! (that is...those who are at peace together  :D)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 10, 2016, 06:41:57 PM
To reward you all my friends for this election, I invite you to agree to a

GLOBAL TRADE PACT

Let's prosper together in peace! (that is...those who are at peace together  :D)

My God, this is just the most brilliant idea ever! Lord Vishniac, I think I speak for everyone when I say that watching you hold your office is like watching online porn for the first time – an awestruck man cannot help but wonder how he’d ever lived without it.  :look: :clap:

All right guys, you heard the man! I want this voting smooth and unanimous again. No haggling, no ifs, no buts, no strings attached. Our Governor is hopefully busy so if you have any questions or doubts, please come to me. One way or another, we’ll get you to follow the wisdom of our leader. I want to hear a strong resounding YEAH all over the place.

United we stand, divided we fall! Hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 19, 2016, 04:07:09 PM
Guys, I see a certain delay in fulfilling Lord Vishniac's will, can we speed it up a bit? The man wants us to sign the Global Trade Pact, so let's do this. Hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 19, 2016, 07:39:20 PM
I sent him a message.
Sometimes, after a long time without turns, it's hard to find motivation to resume.

To make it easier, I write my strategy and short-term objectives in a Word document. It helps remembering what to do with what.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 20, 2016, 04:17:25 PM
Whatever you say, my liege. I just wanted to make sure that this has nothing to do with some behind-the-scenes negotiations on the issue of the Pact vote. Our support for your resolutions must be unanimous, unconditional and enthusiastic, and any dissent will be quenched in laughing gas, which I coincidentally have in abundance.

Guys, do you read Lord Vishniac's instruction? You will open your Word right now and put all your brilliant thoughts down there. This will make your life much easier. And if any of you jokers tells me he has a Mac, I swear he'll be doing push-ups until the thermal death of the Universe.

Faster! Chop chop! Hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 04, 2016, 12:29:13 PM
The pause is somewhat dragging way too long
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 04, 2016, 09:07:59 PM
've just e-mailed him.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 10, 2016, 05:21:07 PM
BinTravkin? I'm afraid we'll have to start discussing a replacement soon. Can you let us know what's up in your world?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 12, 2016, 08:55:11 PM
It looks like the last time bin Travkin posted in this topic was 24 August. Look guys, I'm afraid he's not around and I'm the last one to speculate about his fate, trust me, Lord-Governor Vishniac. Maybe you owned him something, maybe not. Maybe he crossed you or went too far with his demands - I don't know and I don't care. A lot of people disappear in the wake of planetary elections, we can easily write it off as a coincidence. So I think we should wait until Monday and look for replacement then. Would that be ok with you, my dear Planetary Council members?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 14, 2016, 07:12:48 PM
Let's search for replacement, then
Despite how poorly this game is going for me, our company policy is to never declare bankrupcy! that is, i want to see this game through
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on October 14, 2016, 10:00:12 PM
Ok for me!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 26, 2016, 08:31:57 AM
And another half a month gone
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 26, 2016, 08:47:52 AM
I'm trying to find 10 spare minutes, but I started full-time studies this October and it's not gonna be easy for me. You know, you can set up a replacement thread yourself. ;) I can try to do that by Monday.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 27, 2016, 06:07:31 PM
Done.

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=18340.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=18340.0)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 31, 2016, 06:14:56 AM
Quote
You know, you can set up a replacement thread yourself
Sorry for relying on you so shamelessly
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 01, 2016, 10:47:40 PM
Don't worry about it, we've got a bigger problem now.

I really want to complete this game, however this may not be that easy. We can wait for a while and then maybe ask Mart to do something about it. Something meaning either pulling the plug on the Drones (which puts me at some hard-to-assess advantage) or manage them for some time (which can put me at easier-to-assess disadvantage if Mart watched my turns).

I'm happy with neither. Do you have any friend who could fill in? Half-bottoming turns is still better than no progress at all.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 02, 2016, 05:17:37 AM
I will ask around, though i cannot guarantee results
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on November 02, 2016, 06:45:49 PM
To Morgan and co.

Would the Pirates be interested in ending hostilities if the Drones dropped any claims on conquered alien lands?  Perhaps if the Drones also agreed to a 10 year ban on producing armed naval units?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 02, 2016, 09:39:10 PM
To Morgan and co.

Would the Pirates be interested in ending hostilities if the Drones dropped any claims on conquered alien lands?  Perhaps if the Drones also agreed to a 10 year ban on producing armed naval units?
Welcome to our game!
You should probably discuss these matters by PM; diplomacy prefers secrecy.

And don't take any rash decision without asking the position of your other partners (especially the current Governor  8) )
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on November 03, 2016, 12:47:50 AM
Ah, okay.  Thanks for the welcome!

I think when I saved the previous file I had not pushed end turn.  I did on this attached file so if the previous one asks for a log in as the drones then use this one.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 03, 2016, 10:22:25 AM
Foreman Brecon, how wonderful to meet you! Let me assure you that the Pirates' commitment to lasting peace solutions on Chiron is unwavering.




Now let's go talk in private.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 03, 2016, 10:27:54 AM
Brecon, I believe you've only just met our bunch, so let me introduce you to everybody.

This is MallaxOZ, the Cyborg. He's an infiltration unit, part man, part machine. Underneath, it's a hyperalloy combat chassis — micro processor-controlled, fully armored. Very tough. But outside, it's living human tissue — flesh, skin, hair, blood, grown for the cyborgs.... He can't be bargained with. He can't be reasoned with. He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpMg1upld0w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpMg1upld0w)
(Play this for full effect)

This is Vishniac. Have you read his sig? I’m sure you have, but go ahead and do it again. Take your time. Roll it around with your tongue. You see, most people would never ever use WMD against their fellow men. Others would be less squeamish, but at least they’d have the decency not to rub it in your face. Well, Vishniac is neither. And what you gonna do about it? Yeah, that’s what he thought.

Meet Kurvivor, a wonderful chap when sober, believe me. Just don’t make eye contact with him. And remember never to call him “La Garrotte”. He doesn’t like that.
Not.
One.
Bit.

Oh, and while we’re at it, Kurvivor? This lad is new here so give him some slack, will ya? We need him at least until the end of the game. No, this one doesn’t look like he’s gonna squeal. And there is nothing to squeal about, remember? We’ve been through this a million times. Just… just take a grip, buddy, ok?


And finally, your humble. But what it is to say? I’m Sagittarius, although most people think I’m Aquarius (truth be told, I think I should be Aquarius, too!). I love dogs and cats equally, but oh never say that near Rupert! He would be crazy with jealousy.

Ha ha, but look at it, silly me. Dogs can’t talk, amirite? I’m sooo goofy. People say I’m a big dork, but I say you should follow your heart! Dance and sing like nobody’s watching! So hit me up if you wanna hang out or something. I can’t say I’m good at this game (I just joined to make new friends), but I’ll try to make your SMAC experience as interesting as possible.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 07, 2016, 04:32:01 PM
Kurvivor, it is now your turn to vote for the Global Pact and take another step in bringing us all closer to Harmony. Peace won't be lasting until we are all identical and ruled as one. Hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 07, 2016, 06:29:32 PM
Welcome aboard, Brecon!
By the way, i had that photo of Kirov just lying around, can you believe that?
(http://deadshirt.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/memento3.jpg)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 08, 2016, 10:23:33 AM
(http://deadshirt.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/memento3.jpg)


Here we go again, yet another 'Obama joke' by Kurvivor. He's stepping down soon enough, for chrissake!

Please accept my apologies, Brecon, we've got a problem with blatant racism here. Vishniac and MallaxOZ try to counter it with their #NoLivesMatter platform and refuse to acknowledge that that was not what I was going for. Oh boy.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 08, 2016, 06:27:58 PM
Sorry, forgot to attach my turn
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 11, 2016, 01:11:39 PM
Sorry guys, I need some time with my turn. Mourning Leonard Cohen and the Western civilization.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 16, 2016, 08:27:35 PM
I'm back with you guys. As always, giving hope to the weak and nerve gas to the wicked.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 18, 2016, 10:38:22 AM
The vote for the governor's proposition, actively supported by the Pirates, is finally over. The mesure passed. #MakeChironGreatAgain

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 18, 2016, 02:05:49 PM
The vote for the governor's proposition, actively supported by the Pirates, is finally over. The mesure passed. #MakeChironGreatAgain


Splendid! The Master will be pleased.

And of course I supported this initiative, as I do with all actions which move us forward to the Unity (as envisioned by Master Vishniac) in which everyone is the same and thus there is no conflict.

Hail Vishniac!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 23, 2016, 11:06:45 PM
I sure hope this delay means that a nefarious plot is cooking. But wrap it up, cupcakes!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 26, 2016, 12:36:38 PM
Merely catching up after the 2 months, took time.
Next turns will be played much faster.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on November 27, 2016, 07:12:28 AM
Thank you all for the kind introductions.  To introduce myself for this topic I am Brecon current leader of the Free Drones and adept at finding a silver lining for the faction's situation.  So far I have privately concluded that, although the Free Drones may be in difficulties, long term competition among the factions will lead to social and environmental chaos making the eventual triumph of the drone ideology a historical inevitability even should the faction be defeated.

And Kirov if there was any nefarious plotting I hope you can also take some consolation that the Drones were also not invited to the plotting!

Attached is the file for the Morganites.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 01, 2016, 06:46:17 PM
Sorry for delay
Somehow i have missed notifications for several days
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 01, 2016, 07:30:23 PM
Brecon, make sure to do your best not to reload your turns - it leaves a bad impression, especially if combat had taken place. If you do have to reload, make sure to post some info and explanation in the thread.

And by god, get out there and plot nefariously! That's what some think this game is all about.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 01, 2016, 08:38:24 PM
...Not Kirov, of course, but he's noticed others plotting nefariously...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 01, 2016, 08:59:21 PM
No, not Kirov, of course.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 02, 2016, 10:27:13 AM
Can't play right now, but I sure will be able to make my turn during the week-end.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 04, 2016, 04:28:56 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 04, 2016, 09:32:37 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on December 06, 2016, 06:26:14 PM
To the Morganites.

This save should be fine.  I reloaded the one that I did last turn since about 1/2 my units were reporting already moved at the beginning of the turn (unless this is something that happens now and then, I must have made some mistake to cause this although it was fine when reloaded).

And Kirov I would hardly count one attack as combat, more of a warm up or reminder that our vendetta is not being ignored.

I will likely be unavailable to respond if I have a turn from Dec 8-12.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 07, 2016, 06:39:36 PM
And i didn't even stall the game for a change )
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 07, 2016, 08:46:47 PM
I have two riots at bases which shouldn't have one. There are 3 workers subdued by RecCommons+Police and two technicians. However, the PSYCH tab says -1. Did anyone experience something similar?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 08, 2016, 11:52:08 AM
Mart, are you there? Could you click through our turns to see if my drone riots persist in the next turn and bring damage? That would be lovely.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on December 08, 2016, 09:59:07 PM
I will check, but it may not be useful if someone has wrong drone rules in alphax.txt. My check would be telling only how it works on my computer.
But I am not sure if that really matters and what actually game does in such cases.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 09, 2016, 05:39:34 PM
I'd be grateful if you did. Do you see two riots in my bases right now? That would say if we have the same files. Two 5-pop bases are rioting and shouldn't.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Mart on December 10, 2016, 04:29:52 PM
I do not see any drone riots.
We agreed on using drone rule 0, as I recall, maybe this is the thing.
Maybe somehow another alphax.txt  file with wrong entry is in your folder?
We play with patch 3.4, maybe wrong exe?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2016, 05:36:55 PM
OK, I'm an idiot with drone rule 8. Will do my turn soon.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 13, 2016, 09:49:52 AM
OK, it's fine now, I can go back to my peaceful expansion.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 16, 2016, 10:15:29 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 16, 2016, 06:57:37 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on December 16, 2016, 10:26:38 PM
To the Morganites.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 18, 2016, 02:55:29 PM
Sorry, i have missed turn at the moment it was posted
To the Captain
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 20, 2016, 07:47:11 PM
To the men of steel.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 21, 2016, 02:43:56 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2016, 05:26:10 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on December 23, 2016, 10:23:47 PM
To the Morganites.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 25, 2016, 11:09:12 AM
We at Morgan Industries are happy to announce that the patience of our customers/investors has borne fruit and they now enjoy enchanced Quality if Life (tm) product *

* Designated areas only

To the pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2016, 01:17:34 PM
We're happy to hear that, Kurvivor! Care to share some details?

Gents, I wish you all Merry Christmas and I hope you will find many turns to come very calm, a chance to reflect and peacefully grow. Relax and let your guard down! It's Christmas time.


Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 26, 2016, 09:09:03 AM
Quote
Care to share some details?
Not much to say - golden age was finally achieved in a single city, that's all
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 27, 2016, 10:27:47 AM
Between Christmas and deadline work, I have difficulty to find time to play right now, but I will play my turn this year  :P
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 31, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 31, 2016, 12:46:56 PM
Just in time!
I must warn you that i will be unable to make a turn from 2 to 5
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 31, 2016, 01:50:40 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;

Happy New Year to all!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on December 31, 2016, 11:43:19 PM
To the Morganites.

Happy New Year everyone!

If the Pirates are looking to make a resolution for the new year I would suggest nonviolence.  ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 01, 2017, 01:57:52 PM
See you in a week or so
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 04, 2017, 05:50:53 PM
Happy New Year everyone!

If the Pirates are looking to make a resolution for the new year I would suggest nonviolence.  ;)

You all know how much I hate being passive-aggressive, so without any finger-pointing, I'd like to wish us all to learn how to respect the Pirates' borders.

Happy New Year, everyone!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 06, 2017, 11:11:47 AM
Hey guys, happy new year you all.
I will have less time to play during the beginning of this year, as I'm launching a time-consuming project IRL. But I will try to play in a day or two to not slow the game down  ;)

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2017, 09:43:40 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on January 07, 2017, 07:05:31 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 07, 2017, 09:39:40 PM
Pirates up next!
P.S. For the sake of uniformity, could you name saves with "morgan" instead of "morganites"?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 09, 2017, 07:02:28 PM
MallaxOZ, you're metal.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 09, 2017, 08:15:53 PM
Sorry guys, can't play for a few days again, I'm working 100% of my time until friday! After that week-end, it will be OK to play fast again  :danc:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 13, 2017, 09:28:39 AM
MallaxOZ, you're metal.

I fear for my cybernetic friend when I read this, it has something ominous.
Makes me think about...this: (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/e/e6/Borg_Queen_dead.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20120318012956&path-prefix=en)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 13, 2017, 10:25:53 AM
 :o

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 15, 2017, 07:25:13 AM
Wrong save!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 15, 2017, 12:25:42 PM
Even Cyborgs are not immune to bugs. Sorry!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 15, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on January 15, 2017, 10:11:41 PM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 16, 2017, 07:37:09 PM
To the Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 22, 2017, 06:56:12 PM
I fear for my cybernetic friend when I read this, it has something ominous.

You know, I brought you some nails and a hammer and I want you to crucify me. Go ahead, just nail me down to the cross which I brought here as well. I know that you've all been itching for that since the Planetfall. And yes, I predicted that the moment I quash the alien menace and challenge the Bolsheviks, you'll all hang me out to dry. I'm not angry about that. If anything, I'm a little bit sad. But I forgive you already. And if I have one regret, it's that I don't have a second life to give for mankind. But with the aliens effectively eliminated, your children can sleep well, and that's all that counts for me. Good night, sweet princesses!  ;jesus
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 23, 2017, 08:50:29 PM
=> To Lord Vishniac  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 25, 2017, 07:16:39 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 25, 2017, 07:34:56 PM
Boys and cyborgs, gents and drones, gaians and other handicapped, the rich and freeriders - it pains to me say that I'm unavailable for 2-21.02, as I travel to Cuba for extensive rum tasting. Unfortunately, the broadband there is crap, not that I would play anyway. Since I'd be extremely reluctant to have a temporary replacement now in those volatile times of ours, I see no option but to ask you for forgiveness and patience. Please postpone the crucifixion.

Yours true and humble,
Cap
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on January 26, 2017, 12:32:15 AM
To the Morgans.

Best wishes for your Cuban holiday Kirov!  About five years ago I spent a holiday there at a beach northeast of Santa Clara with a trip to see Trinidad on the south coast, although I did not make it to Havana.  Hopefully you have some nice weather.

Also, the Drones wish to announce that we will not participate in any crucifixion, our plans would better be described as liberation and reeducation.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 26, 2017, 08:01:44 PM
Best wishes for your Cuban holiday Kirov!  About five years ago I spent a holiday there at a beach northeast of Santa Clara with a trip to see Trinidad on the south coast, although I did not make it to Havana.  Hopefully you have some nice weather.

We start with Havana but Trinidad is on the list, I hear it's beautiful (i.e. the area around). Any other tips/recommendations?

Quote
Also, the Drones wish to announce that we will not participate in any crucifixion, our plans would better be described as liberation and reeducation.

I'm sorry, I didn't want to offend your sensibilities; I understand how important wording is. So just grab these reeducation pins and hold this reeducation pin sledge-introducer. Make sure to maximize stimuli exposure as the others hold me down to the Boards of Education.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 28, 2017, 07:44:29 AM
Maybe we can get to like 2020 until Kirov goes on his vacation
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 28, 2017, 06:25:02 PM
Maybe we can get to like 2020 until Kirov goes on his vacation

Yeah, let's show him!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on January 28, 2017, 07:56:01 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 29, 2017, 08:00:41 AM
Gaian scientists have completed THE XENOEMPATHY DOME.

Native life levels returning to normal due to sun orbit.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on January 30, 2017, 03:05:23 AM
To the Morgans.

For Cuba I don't really have many tips since I was only there for a short trip which was mostly spent at a new resort on Cayo Santa Maria with an overnight guided trip to Trinidad (and a lot of it depends on your interests).  The architecture and history of Trinidad were interesting.  The trip between was good for general sightseeing of the terrain and non-tourist communities (many similar looking older apartment blocks).  Near Trinidad is a natural reserve that was a worthwhile stop, although along one path I asked the guide about hundreds of structures along a rock face about 30 m away and he said that they were wasp nests and that although they were fairly dormant at that time of year it would be best to keep moving.

The people in Cuba generally seemed helpful and well-educated and, although the basics of life are subsidized, salaries are very low by western standards so you may run into people looking to make money off of tourists.  On the plus side for tourists labour intensive crafts are fairly cheap.  While travelling the guide driving the van/small-bus stopped several times for ~checkpoints which may have required some paperwork on their part and quick inspections of the condition of the vehicle, I am not sure if there would have been any difficulty for a tourist travelling on their own, particularly if they were not fluent in Spanish.

In short there are lots of different activities and historical sites available, nice weather, and people working in the tourist industry are fairly likely to speak English.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 31, 2017, 07:42:54 AM
Sorry for delay; yesterday theiinternet was not working at my place
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 01, 2017, 06:48:14 PM
Alas, my last turn for 3 weeks. Darth Brehn'con, thanks for the tips! Take care everybody and see you relatively soon!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 06, 2017, 01:19:16 AM
Will play soon, but since Kirov his in vacation anyway, I take my time…
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 16, 2017, 07:16:06 AM
How soon is "soon"?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 16, 2017, 03:58:16 PM
Sorry!  :D
Soon is saturday
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 18, 2017, 11:20:25 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 19, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on February 20, 2017, 12:17:08 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 21, 2017, 03:08:32 PM
Hope Kirov is back from vacation
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 23, 2017, 12:58:04 PM
Hey guys, I'm back in town, but please give me a couple of days more, I'm wading through unread e-mails and combating jet lag. I need to sort out my due stuff and I'm back in game.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 25, 2017, 11:02:29 AM
I see that you didn't waste the past month, lads! Guess I will have to surrender soon... And I just wanted my rug back.

This turn kinda saved itself on me when I was renaming a landmark. I hope it works. To be honest I'd rather reload (I have a save after all important moves, just before minor production changes), but I guess I can roll with this one if it works fine.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 26, 2017, 12:02:53 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 26, 2017, 04:16:39 PM
And I just wanted my rug back.
(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR9nao1wrT8qGTE6vhNiwsurRADv5k_uIgSfl0pwOYtJwFkxPhigg)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on February 26, 2017, 06:22:20 PM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 28, 2017, 02:01:33 PM
To the Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 03, 2017, 01:53:05 PM
To the Cyborgs. Why don't we sign a global peace pact? Status quo ante bellum, anyone? O:-)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 04, 2017, 11:29:40 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 05, 2017, 06:50:13 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on March 06, 2017, 05:47:06 AM
I have tried the save twice but terranx is crashing when I push enter at the end of the turn, I will try again tomorrow when I have more time.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 06, 2017, 07:51:53 AM
By the way, can names of factions inside the game be changed? I mean: in the saves drones are still ead by Peter Gray
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on March 06, 2017, 04:53:37 PM
All right, I have tried the turn a few times and it seems that the game is crashing when I try to change production in 3 cities that had just built units.  So I left those producing their current units and will try to change it later on.  I repeated the same moves on the military side including exposing a unit that should have been protected.  Hopefully this save is fine and does not cause similar issues for the next players.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 06, 2017, 08:06:28 PM
And on we go
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 09, 2017, 07:07:03 PM
I'm sorry for my delays, lads, I have a lot on my plate these days and my turns are so time-consuming recently. Come on guys, let's negotiate here!

Sorry to hear about your problems, Brecon, I hope everything will be fine now.




Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 09, 2017, 07:10:15 PM
And I'm away for the weekend, sorry.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 11, 2017, 01:11:13 PM
To the Gaians!
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 12, 2017, 09:54:23 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on March 17, 2017, 09:54:39 AM
I am travelling until April 13 and had hoped to run the game from a flash drive, but I have not managed to get it to work.  Would anyone object to Kurvivor or Vishniac (since they would gain the least information) or a third party taking over my turns until I am back?  (I could message my password and general strategy for those turns).
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 17, 2017, 11:11:17 AM
I think it's better idea to employ a third party (like our CMN) than one of us to handle your turns. If Mart could take over, that'd be great.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 17, 2017, 06:16:34 PM
Yeah: using another player would lead to serious conflicts of interest.
Mart would be a solution but we're talking 4 weeks ; that's 4-5 turns at current speed. Your instructions need to be pretty detailed.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 17, 2017, 06:28:33 PM
Mart pm'ed.

If he doesn't turn up, I'll help you with your turns for a while. Enjoy your time away, buddy.  ;b;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on March 18, 2017, 07:02:44 AM
It brings tears of joy to my eyes when such cooperation is displayed
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on March 18, 2017, 05:33:11 PM
I also pm'd mart requesting a few turns with general instructions. Until at least the beginning of April I have daily email and Internet access, but have to go to an Internet cafe for a computer that can run alpha centauri, and that did not work from my flash drive.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 18, 2017, 06:00:13 PM
It brings tears of joy to my eyes when such cooperation is displayed

I dream about the day when we all switch our SE Values setting - to Friendship.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 22, 2017, 05:23:53 PM
Just e-mailed Mart. If he doesn't show up - we can ask players from other games (like funbot). This would require some briefing obviously.

I'm reluctant to the concept of one of us taking the replacement and would only agree if Brecon insists. But Brecon, if you insist only to save us from the delay, don't worry about that. We can wait for you. Just give your SMAX copy another try at some other place, will you?

BUncle, I know you're reading this, why don't you step in for a moment? See how it goes, talk to people, try thinking what's best in the current situation? It's a great exercise and maybe could convince you to join MP.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on March 29, 2017, 06:59:01 PM
Hi,

I would be fine with someone other than Mart filling in for a few turns. I will try to run smac at the same Internet cafe as before tomorrow and will try again early next week at a different Internet cafe with computers in English so that I will at least understand if an error message pops up again. I would not mind if someone from our group filled in as long as they kept the extra info to themselves. For anyone willing to fill in I could provide some general advice and leave the rest up to their discretion (please don't disband all the units :)).

Apologies again for the delay.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 29, 2017, 07:06:50 PM
I PMed funbot, he should be competent enough if interested.

Don't disband all the units? Got it. Anything else I should tell him?  :whistle:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 29, 2017, 07:13:46 PM
Funbot is in. Also, I'm away from Friday to Wednesday so take your time.

I might just take my laptop but the connection in the mountains is probably piss poor.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: funbot on March 29, 2017, 07:19:14 PM
Funbot is in.

Yus, i indeed am. Hai guys o/

-edit- and just to be safe, maeby you guys could link the patch you are currently playing?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 29, 2017, 07:28:44 PM
It's bare Yitzi 3.4 as we started like 2 years ago.

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=291 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=291)

Welcome onboard. Captain Kirov is your best friend. The cake is a lie.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: funbot on April 02, 2017, 08:47:46 AM
to morgan

sry that took a while, i thought when kirov pm me "Don't hurry - I'm away Friday-Wednesday anyway.", that i'd had literally days to spend to send turn, without checking that kurviror is next on the line kek  :D
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 02, 2017, 10:38:31 AM
Oh, my turn, is it not?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 06, 2017, 12:03:41 PM
Sorry, I decided to wait with this turn until I come back.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 06, 2017, 07:36:19 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 09, 2017, 08:07:00 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: funbot on April 09, 2017, 08:33:24 PM
to morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 16, 2017, 08:00:28 PM
I Pmed and emailed Kurvi a couple of days ago. Kurvi? You're being missed across the board.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 17, 2017, 12:17:55 PM
Hello
I can say without telling a lie that i have been absent for religious reasons. Sorry for not forewarning, i was missing my turn already and embarassed about that
also, i performed extra load
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 17, 2017, 01:24:40 PM
No worries, Kurvivor, religious reasons are religious reasons.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 19, 2017, 05:48:27 PM
Lot of work this week, especially with the 1st round of elections in my country at the end of the week. So, I might not be able to play my turn before Sunday.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 20, 2017, 06:07:11 PM
Lot of work this week, especially with the 1st round of elections in my country at the end of the week. So, I might not be able to play my turn before Sunday.


The French elections, eh? It's your time to shine, France! Go show'em Anglo-Saxons! :D

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZir1L7fSY#)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 22, 2017, 11:19:19 AM
At last, campaign is over. With another attack in Paris against a policeman, just before the election…
The choice is simple :  ;yang;  ;morgan;  ;miriam;  ;santi; ?

=> To Lord Vishniac ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 23, 2017, 03:18:31 PM
The choice is simple :  ;yang;  ;morgan;  ;miriam;  ;santi; ?

 ;lol ;b;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: funbot on April 23, 2017, 08:30:38 PM
welp, i'll be giving the leadership of the drones back it's former owner. Ya all have fun awrite? ^_^
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 24, 2017, 03:39:07 PM
welp, i'll be giving the leadership of the drones back it's former owner. Ya all have fun awrite? ^_^

Thank you so much, funbot! We owe you one. ;b;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on April 28, 2017, 06:24:48 PM
Sorry for the delay, I was on Stromboli Island.

For the Drones.  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on April 28, 2017, 09:05:48 PM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 06, 2017, 10:26:59 PM
It seems i have stopped recieving credits for commerce. That is most distressing
PS. I have nothing to say for the week;s delay of the turn. Sorry
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 11, 2017, 12:18:14 PM
Guys, sorry I'm pushing my other games while waiting with this one. Truth is, I'm super sick these days and while the other games are at their early stages, this one is a bit more challenging. Expect the turn within 2-3 days. Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 12, 2017, 03:02:00 PM
Oh France, let's have hot passionate sex.  :-*
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 13, 2017, 01:01:48 PM
Oh France, let's have hot passionate sex.  :-*

Protected sex then?  ;cute

 
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 14, 2017, 12:11:00 PM
Word is, Captain Kirov is starting to make mistakes. He needs victories if he wants to keep the respect of the Staff. And victories are nowhere in sight. A H-K resurfaced near Penzance and most hunt squads got redirected. Ulver is the only one to remain on course.
We only hear so much and it’s not easy to make something out of it. They say that thousands died in the Reds’ offensive and that fire glows were seen even from the coast. Makeshift barricades are made from what is left in the battlefields, at the same when corpses are still being put in bags. Give it a month and the corpses will be themselves used for barricades. We’ve never been so desperate there.
In the East, the Machines are advancing. Sometimes in a clear night, we can just make out distant explosions, the constant barrage of artillery, deadly clouds of nerve gas billowing in the air. I’ll never forget the face of a man paralyzed with nerve gas. They say mind worms are worse, but I find it hard to believe.
The sea is so silent it’s almost unbearable. We got so much used to the sound of torpedo salvos, I almost forgot how it’d been before that. But now it’s changed and we haven’t seen a Machine H-K unit for a long while, which paradoxically only worries me. I know they’re out there, something’s telling me that. My hunt squad never goes without work for a long time. Not that I would enlist in the Black Navy otherwise. It’s my shift in a moment. Maybe tonight…
- Lt John Tvardovsky, Ulver, Personal Log
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 17, 2017, 09:29:51 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on May 18, 2017, 01:54:25 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 19, 2017, 07:17:13 PM
It is strange to see commerce income in one place in status tables, yet in my income only bases are reflected. It is very disconcerting.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 20, 2017, 01:21:00 PM
It is strange to see commerce income in one place in status tables, yet in my income only bases are reflected. It is very disconcerting.

I'm not sure if I understand where the problem lies. Does the F3 screen give you a false display?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on May 20, 2017, 03:24:03 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 20, 2017, 05:43:52 PM
My bases show commerce with Morganic bases as normal.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on May 20, 2017, 11:29:43 PM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 21, 2017, 09:50:04 PM
Attached the summary of the issue
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 22, 2017, 12:15:42 PM
Well, pausing this game is the thing I'd hate most, but if I'm reading this right, the lad is short 50 EC each turn and that's a truckload of money, at least here in the high seas. And Morgan needs his cash more than anything.

Kurvivor, can you open your previous turns, count the income and make sure that it's not only the display that is wrong?

If you indeed earn less cash, I believe this is some bug related to Yitzi's patch (I don't know that for sure, it's just it's the first time in my life this happens). What we need to do is pack Kurvivor's recent turns and send them to Yitzi, along with the password. Probably the rest of us will need to do the same.

Does anyone have a better idea?

Oh, one thing - Kurvivor, do you have a SMAC copy without Yitzi's? If not, can you install one and check the past 2-3 turns in such a copy?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 22, 2017, 10:08:32 PM
Kurvivor, if this issue is indeed due to a bug, it will take a while to solve it. Can you please confirm within a couple of days that you've submitted your saves, password and the description of the issue to Yitzi? And that you've checked other solutions, like trying a new non-Yitzi copy? It would greatly help us get back on the track ASAP.

EDIT: And guys, please think if maybe you have any other ideas where the problem lies and what we could do about it.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 23, 2017, 05:36:10 AM
I have loked back at the saves, and it seems that, indeed, gross income is always smaller then Commerce Income. Maybe i have understood how they relate to each other wrong all along?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on May 25, 2017, 01:57:43 PM
I have loked back at the saves, and it seems that, indeed, gross income is always smaller then Commerce Income. Maybe i have understood how they relate to each other wrong all along?

I'm going out of town for a couple of days and can't check it right now. I thought that you'd noticed a big change and that's why you brought it up. Can you go through your past few turns and note down how much cash you get? Possibly everything is ok. I can't verify this easily as I have no commerce due to the persecutions.

If you find something odd, you can still replay your turn as I've only done a few moments which I can easily recreate. But once I engage enemy Nazi zombie combatants, I would be extremely reluctant to replays.

I'm back next week.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 29, 2017, 09:55:47 AM
I sugges we just play on
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 30, 2017, 01:22:51 AM
And guys, please think if maybe you have any other ideas where the problem lies and what we could do about it.
After asking the...Governor's bureaucracy to look at data, I think everything is fine at Morgan's.
Commerce income is coming as it should.
Squares give energy.
The devil lies in Social Engineering: at 20% Economy before maintenance is taken, there doesn't remain much to earn at the end of a turn.

Ex: your most western base (Morgan In...):
+10 from commerce
+10 from squares
= Energy 020-000
Economy 20% (and no bonus) => 4 credits

If you want more money, you can change the allocation for more Economy in Menu / HQ / Social Engineering.
But it's always the old story of butter or cannons, or here credits or research points...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 30, 2017, 09:53:31 PM
I am very sorry for cluttering this thread with my lack of understanding
I thought commerce income goes straingt into money, without splitting. It is very embarassing
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 04, 2017, 02:34:59 PM
I'm sorry guys, but these days have been so busy it's basically hell so far. On the top of everything, I tried to employ some people last week and long story short, it didn't end that well. Clearly Morgan, I am not. I hope to smooth things out soon, but in the meantime, please have some more patience. I can push my other games as they are at early stages, but this one needs focus and this is one thing I don't have now (along with time; and peace of mind; and... aw forget it).

Be back with you as soon as possible, sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 18, 2017, 12:47:19 PM
I'm super sorry for the delay. Just today I wanted to finally play the turn, only to find out that my recently installed Win10 won't start the goddam game. Did any of you possibly run into a similar thing? I posted a thread here:

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=19602.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=19602.0)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 30, 2017, 02:19:23 PM
My deepest sorries in the history of sorries. A number of things have contributed - busy RL, periods of sickness/bad health, somewhat of a general crisis with SMAX, and I'll be honest with you - this game is sometimes a drudgery, what with my feeling that every turn, I'm nudged 1 inch closer towards the inevitable defeat, constantly building and losing units ad nauseam. It was fun to nevertheless do my best in the better times, in the worse times it became a nuisance. If I'd done my turn 2 weeks ago, I'd probably have just tried to sabotage my own game in order to lose faster. However, no excuse is sufficient so please accept my apologies.

Oh, and I forgot - my brand new Windows 10 doesn't accept SMAX. The game just won't start, and I tried a lot of things, from compatibility modes to another ini file borrowed from a friend of mine. Until I fix this, I need to use my old PC, rewire the monitor and peripherals to it and play the game. This obviously won't help with my turn rate in the future. Sorry for any inconvenience.

I can't even recall the last time I held a turn for no reason for so long. Certainly never happened on this board. Guess there's first time for everything, but I do feel ashamed. I'll do my best to get back on the track, hope you didn't lose your focus, too!

Turned to Cyborg. God it's been a while since I could type that.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 05, 2017, 10:53:29 AM
I'm in vacation right now, but I will try to play before the end of the week.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 05, 2017, 04:39:01 PM
I'm in vacation right now, but I will try to play before the end of the week.
Then don't hurry: I'll play Monday evening at the earliest.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2017, 04:48:22 PM
hop

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 10, 2017, 08:46:37 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on July 12, 2017, 02:00:47 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 14, 2017, 10:08:12 PM
to the Captain
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 25, 2017, 03:05:51 PM
*sigh* You just won't believe what happened. No, this time it wasn't your run-of-the-mill RL issues, but rather a grassroots somewhat-of-a-rebellion in Poland, where the ruling right-wing populist party made an attempt to dismantle democracy and take control over the independent judiciary. The entire country took to the streets in the most massive protests since 1989. We're fighting tooth and nail and while I hate being pompous, the situation is really that the democracy is Poland is at stake. Partial victories are made but they're not enough and the resistance continues. I'm spending 6-8 hours per day on the streets, neglecting all the RL stuff I'd invoked earlier on, and I'm super tired already.

So there you go. I bet this is something you didn't expect. ;)

https://qz.com/1031011/in-poland-thousands-came-out-to-protest-trumps-favorite-populist-government/ (https://qz.com/1031011/in-poland-thousands-came-out-to-protest-trumps-favorite-populist-government/)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/18/polish-government-brings-forward-plans-to-assert-control-over-judges (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/18/polish-government-brings-forward-plans-to-assert-control-over-judges)

You can imagine that this puts playing SMAX in perspective. However, I did my turn, if somewhat absent-minded. Please forgive the delays to follow and my raw responses to PMs. Obviously, I have no idea when this whole mess ends. I'm really sorry for that.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 25, 2017, 03:18:36 PM
I forgot to add - my reload took place after one obvious combat (my A4 vs. defender's D1). Somehow my monolith investigation was auto ON (maybe inherited with the turn), which stopped my unit and this was a very crucial thing to my tactics, so I allowed myself to reload. The re-rolled combat looked largely the same, as you can imagine. I'm sorry, but I just couldn't afford to lose that unit movement for such a reason at this stage of the game.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 01, 2017, 12:32:48 PM
Sorry for the delay, I was out for a week. I will play tonight or tomorrow.

@Kirov : Courage for your fight. I heard Duda stopped the controversial laws with a veto, but I'm not familiar with Politics of Poland, so I'm not sure if it's really significant. In France, the President has a lot of powers, but it's not the same in Poland if I understood right.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 05, 2017, 05:23:14 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 06, 2017, 11:44:14 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on August 07, 2017, 07:10:04 PM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 10, 2017, 07:15:02 PM
To the captain
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 15, 2017, 01:59:14 PM
@Kirov : Courage for your fight. I heard Duda stopped the controversial laws with a veto, but I'm not familiar with Politics of Poland, so I'm not sure if it's really significant. In France, the President has a lot of powers, but it's not the same in Poland if I understood right.

Thanks! ;b;. The President is actually a puppet (we have more of a PM-oriented system anyway), so nobody expected those vetoes. They actually prevented next free election from being hijacked, at least for now. The short story is, we're going through something akin to the US' 'rebellion of angry white men', those hung out to dry in the course of neo-liberal reforms. Too many people around here toil in Mcjobs for next to nothing and still are expected to be grateful that it's not communism anymore. Yet another story of neo-liberalism paving way to dictatorships, I guess. But I can assure you that Poland is not Hungary, Turkey or Russia, where the dictator-in-the-making enjoys support north of 60%. On the contrary, no matter what they do, the ruling Law and Justice cannot break the 40% ceiling. The opposition here is much stronger, people are actually used to be in some kind of resistance for literally generations (that's literally what we do around here), and the fight for democracy will be very bitter. The current mood in Poland is of a civil war, but I have no doubt that we will prevail. The main concern at the moment is Poland being driven out of the EU, which would be an epic political disaster, and I hear that Emmanuel Macron has little patience for trouble-makers, a sentiment I find understandable. But we need to deal with first things first. I'm actually going out in a few minutes to take part in a blockade of a neo-fascist demonstration.

Turned on.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 15, 2017, 07:58:42 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 15, 2017, 10:17:46 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;

Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on August 16, 2017, 02:06:24 AM
to the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 18, 2017, 06:40:49 AM
Now, that was downright sloppy from the CEO
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 22, 2017, 06:57:25 PM
Our little show goes on.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 26, 2017, 03:18:30 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 28, 2017, 11:23:17 PM
I always wonder who downloads sometimes my turn before I do. Mart probably.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on August 29, 2017, 02:54:50 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on August 30, 2017, 09:42:37 PM
To the pirates
PS. I presume, we go on diplomatic silence here as well?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 02, 2017, 04:58:32 PM
Hi guys, there is one thing I need to explain. You see, as I already mentioned, since my unfortunate transition to Win10, my SMAX copies stopped working. With a little help from this forum, I managed to fix some of them, but NOT the one we’re currently playing (Yitzi 3.4b). So I started to use Yitzi 3.3 (a couple of turns ago) until it gets fixed by the boys in the other thread here. However, as you probably noticed, there’s a big problem with Yitzi 3.4b – when you select a tile with enemy units, you can’t examine them in the lower bar (it’s empty). I’ve been pissed at it since we started the game, but never got round to actually complain/fix it.

However, now that I went back to Yitzi 3.3, which doesn’t have this bug, I decided that I’m not even trying to go back to 3.4b. In fact, I’d recommend to all of you to switch to 3.3 (I don’t want to have any tactical advantage over you, even minor). The missing examine option runs counter to the original SMAX experience and I was very specific, back when Yitzi introduced his first iterations, that I won’t accept any modifications to the game design, i.e. I go only with bug fixes and additional optional features in alphax.txt. Simply put, Yitzi 3.4b is not the SMAX I agreed to play, which is why I consider my first agreement in the setup thread void. It is 3.4b which violates game rules and all the time we used it we were in breach as well, however absurd this sounds.

Guys, I’m sorry, but I can’t play 3.4b (due to Win10) and I don’t want to. I would like to ask you and strongly recommend than we all switch back to the most recent version which a) works on my rig, b) is true to the game design.

Granted, for a long time Yitzi patches unintentionally have modified yet another game rule (the faction borders now cross water, something which wasn’t there in the original SMAX), but I don’t see how this would be a major concern anytime.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 02, 2017, 05:00:10 PM
To the pirates
PS. I presume, we go on diplomatic silence here as well?

I'm sorry I didn't post the info about sunspots, I believe they hit in my turn.

I've never heard about a rule introducing diplomatic silence during sunspots (probably because you'd never be able to monitor it), so talking is fine. In fact, I've already done it, so feel free.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 02, 2017, 05:00:40 PM
And the turn. Like I mentioned, played with 3.3.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 03, 2017, 07:19:04 PM
We are not on 3.4b but on 3.4 (3.4b came after the start of this game) and I have no problem watching the characteristics of enemy units when I click on it (left-click and not info-tile). Also I don't see borders expanding at sea.
You probably updated during another PBEM.

It's not clear which changes 3.4 introduced over 3.3 so I'd like to keep my 3.4: now that I am accustomed to it, I wouldn't like to see strange things happening.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 03, 2017, 07:37:40 PM
Will play soon.
OK for shutting down communication here as well.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 04, 2017, 12:49:01 PM
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We are not on 3.4b but on 3.4 (3.4b came after the start of this game) and I have no problem watching the characteristics of enemy units when I click on it (left-click and not info-tile). Also I don't see borders expanding at sea.
You probably updated during another PBEM.

I can't even check now, my 3.4 copy simply doesn't display (although it works in the background). But the way I remember, you couldn't check the morale of the entire stack, which can be sometimes important information. And even if you could, I couldn't, and different work on different rigs is only another reason to ditch the patch in the long run.

As for the border, yours crossed the sea and appeared on the Drones' continent very early in the game. I know he sees it, too.

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It's not clear which changes 3.4 introduced over 3.3 so I'd like to keep my 3.4: now that I am accustomed to it, I wouldn't like to see strange things happening.

I'm just saying that I have to use 3.3 anyway, so in case of any compatibility issues I will still have to ask you all to downgrade a notch.

This issue aside, I'm probably not going to use late Yitzi versions in my future games.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 04, 2017, 12:50:20 PM
OK for shutting down communication here as well.

Like I said, you don't have to. We've never agreed to such a house rule and I've already sent a PM during the sunspots.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 04, 2017, 06:56:27 PM
As for the border, yours crossed the sea and appeared on the Drones' continent very early in the game. I know he sees it, too.
Ah, this! Yes.
I thought you were saying the patch would put borders into the sea preventing other factions to found marine bases in the territorial waters.
You never know what people would put into the patches. I follow you in that they just need to correct bugs but let the game functionalities as is.

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I'm just saying that I have to use 3.3 anyway, so in case of any compatibility issues I will still have to ask you all to downgrade a notch.
There is 3.3 and 3.3b
Without further details, I’ll choose 3.3b: it’s written it prevents a base display bug.
First I shall test it with my last turn to see if everything works fine (if I remember the process of replacing versions…)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 05, 2017, 07:43:19 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 07, 2017, 07:11:46 PM
Played with 3.3b, no problem to notice.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on September 08, 2017, 05:54:42 PM
Played with 3.3

To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on September 09, 2017, 10:04:54 PM
Hey, as long as something works!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 11, 2017, 07:15:28 PM
Thanks! I really didn't want to insist that you downgrade, I'm no programmer but I don't believe that we'll run into any serious compatibility issues. However, like I said lower Yitzi gives some minor tactical advantage and I want you to have it, too.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 12, 2017, 03:08:46 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on September 12, 2017, 06:40:17 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on September 13, 2017, 06:27:49 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on September 17, 2017, 03:51:00 PM
To Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 23, 2017, 08:31:27 PM
I'm so sorry, guys! Notifications missing again, I'd come here to prod Kurvivor a bit when I saw the turn waiting for 6 days. :/

I'm away to Greece for a week, be back in a week.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on September 25, 2017, 09:28:40 AM
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I'd come here to prod Kurvivor a bit
:P
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 27, 2017, 08:26:01 PM
Crazy big fat workload IRL this week, will try to play tomorrow!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on September 29, 2017, 09:03:07 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on October 02, 2017, 08:03:36 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on October 03, 2017, 02:46:01 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 07, 2017, 08:41:29 PM
Sorry for this delay
Busy week
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 14, 2017, 12:48:14 PM
Same here, I'm afraid. *sigh*
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 19, 2017, 06:49:25 PM
Same over there  :wall:
Can't play before this week-end.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 25, 2017, 10:45:27 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on October 31, 2017, 10:14:13 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on November 01, 2017, 12:43:16 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 01, 2017, 06:52:41 PM
To the free men and women of the ocean!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 02, 2017, 05:32:44 PM
To the free men and women of the ocean!

Rule, my children, rule the waves
Pirates never shall be slaves!  ;b;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 09, 2017, 04:34:10 PM
Sorry for the delay… Too much IRL activities these days  :wall:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 15, 2017, 10:17:53 AM
Finally end of the rush. I'll play tonight. Sorry again!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 15, 2017, 10:19:10 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 18, 2017, 11:35:16 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on November 18, 2017, 09:38:11 PM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on November 22, 2017, 09:38:26 AM
Sorry, missed notification
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 30, 2017, 02:11:07 PM
Sorry, missed notification

Not only I received only 1 notification in this round, I discovered that I can completely forget that we play when I don't get them. :/ Sorry guys, it's one of the busiest moments of my life.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 09, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
I'm unable to play due to a new version of OS, but I think I may have found a solution. Sorry for the delay!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 11, 2017, 06:28:52 PM
I'm trying to reinstall. Is this the right patch: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=320 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=320) ?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2017, 10:12:30 PM
I use this one: http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=281 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=281)

and recommend it due to some minor issues.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 13, 2017, 06:51:43 PM
I succeed to launch the game, but the screen is black. I see there is a new version in gog.com for macOS, I will try this tomorrow
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 13, 2017, 07:48:08 PM
Yes, I was be able to play! With no cursor, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 20, 2017, 11:17:25 PM
Busy time running around to buy gifts for ungrateful people but here is the turn!

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on December 21, 2017, 04:59:38 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on December 22, 2017, 08:16:33 PM
to the Pirates!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 28, 2017, 04:07:58 PM
Onwards and a Happy New Year!  :danc:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 31, 2017, 05:32:36 PM
=>  ;deidre;

And happy new year! ;hippy
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 02, 2018, 04:39:18 PM
A Happy New Year full of turns  :)

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on January 02, 2018, 11:46:35 PM
To the Morgans

Best wishes for the New Year to everyone!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on January 12, 2018, 07:33:06 AM
Erm... Merry Christmas, ya all!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 24, 2018, 02:19:11 PM
Guys, I'm super sorry but I have a lot of important stuff to attend to and I'm just unable to focus on the turn at the moment. Be back with you as soon as I can, hopefully by the end of the week. I know it's been very bad recently, please accept my apologies. Between a job, full-time studies, opposition, learning two languages and taking care of two sick cats, this is easily the peak of being busy in my life. I would transfer the command to a replacement, but at this moment it would equal to surrender. Hopefully I will lose soon anyway. *sigh* Once again, deeply sorry.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 05, 2018, 01:43:29 PM
*sigh* I did it! Many many sorry for that, I guess I'll need a break from SMAC after this game. Fortunately, it seems that it ends soon.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 11, 2018, 04:29:08 PM
Will be able to play tomorrow  :danc:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on February 12, 2018, 08:17:51 PM
Oh my… this game is going wild.  ;nuke;

=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 15, 2018, 12:37:52 AM
As the acting Governor, I am happy to see that my fellow warmongering faction leaders abide by the law and didn't forget that...
1) Weapons above strength 4 on choppers are banned
  :D

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on February 15, 2018, 04:08:54 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on February 18, 2018, 10:03:54 AM
Next turn, yahoo
So, WHAT is happening?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 07, 2018, 03:36:25 PM
*sigh* Of course I've remembered about the turn from the very beginning, but there was something in it that I didn't want to half-rear, so I was waiting for a spare hour, and all the time you've been watching me silently, judging... It was horrible.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 14, 2018, 09:22:22 AM
Hi, just here to tell you that I saw it's my turn, i will play soon, but IRL it's crazy right now.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on March 18, 2018, 11:17:21 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 22, 2018, 10:03:34 PM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on March 24, 2018, 04:41:15 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on April 19, 2018, 06:04:24 AM
to the Pirates
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on April 19, 2018, 10:56:02 PM
Guess you didn't expect me here so quickly, did you? I'll try to be much faster, so you no longer have my absence as your excuse. ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 24, 2018, 08:30:08 AM
Returning from vacation today, will play soon  :danc:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on April 25, 2018, 07:40:15 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on May 13, 2018, 10:51:00 AM
Unfortunately I was in my yearly 2-week holidays.

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on May 16, 2018, 01:28:10 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on May 19, 2018, 08:59:43 PM
On we go
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 03, 2018, 06:10:32 PM
*sigh* another instance of a missing notification. I actually came here on Tuesday to prod whoever needed proding, and only then I noticed that the turn had been waiting for me for 2 weeks. I can play a bit faster now so don't hesitate to check on me in case of such delays.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 10, 2018, 11:45:22 AM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 17, 2018, 09:44:48 AM
My probem was inverse: I saw the turn on Monday but couldn't play until today.

Governor message:
I have to remind my fellow faction leaders that nearing completion of a (not so) secret project must be announced to everyone (so we can congratulate you).

To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on June 19, 2018, 01:34:51 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on June 23, 2018, 09:51:36 AM
To my shame, i recieved notification in time, and for several days got up with the hought "ok, my turn is today" only to squander the chance
That's not how business is conducted, no sirs
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on June 26, 2018, 02:29:43 PM
This time I monitored this thread and I was notified only after I checked here, more than 24hrs after Kurvivor sent his turn. There definitely is something off. :/
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on June 28, 2018, 07:55:46 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on June 30, 2018, 09:38:28 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on July 04, 2018, 03:36:34 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 04, 2018, 09:46:30 PM
I'm going to Berlin for the weekend, so Kurvivor, you don't have to hurry that much. If you have your turn by Tuesday, that'll be great.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 15, 2018, 02:31:57 PM
Kurvivor, I'm going to Bratislava Thursday-Tuesday (19-24.07), so if you could send the turn by Wednesday, I'll push it before my leave.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on July 18, 2018, 10:45:24 PM
Hello, my dear comrades. I am sorry - in this sabbatical of mine i forswore all internet access or computer-like devices in general
on the upside, i have read quite interesting biography of the Chairman Mao

Sorry of this turn is too late...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 19, 2018, 12:31:13 PM
China is always a super interesting topic to read about. And I did manage to do my turn. Have fun, folks!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 31, 2018, 09:34:55 AM
My vacations end today. I'll play tonight or tomorrow!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on August 04, 2018, 01:44:33 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on August 12, 2018, 10:17:58 AM
To the Drones  ;domai;
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on August 13, 2018, 05:43:52 AM
To the Morgans
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on September 26, 2018, 11:37:22 AM
Hello Kurvivor, you still there? The vacation time is over, let's get back to this game and finish it already! :)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 09, 2018, 03:19:06 PM
It ain't over until it's over. Kurvivor, you've been gone for almost two months now. Should we look for replacement?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Brecon on October 22, 2018, 02:51:33 AM
Yes, I think we should consider a replacement.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 22, 2018, 01:42:48 PM
At this point of the game, and with the situation being as it is, maybe we should consider eliminating the Morgans altogether? It's going to be much faster for the rest of us, and I don't think that the overall impact on the end result would be that much different. Unless others have different opinions?

Vishniac, MallaxOZ, you lads still there?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 22, 2018, 02:13:14 PM
Morganites are friend of ours, Cyborgs.
But I agree with everything that could able us to finish this game.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 22, 2018, 02:59:48 PM
Morganites are friend of ours, Cyborgs.
But I agree with everything that could able us to finish this game.

Do you believe that the presence of the Morgans affects your winning odds? This is a straight-forward question, without any implications or anything like that.

And remember, if they are replaced, the new one will be allowed to scrap any deals and make his/her own diplomacy from scratch, so it's unclear what happens anyway.

We should have had this talk some two months ago, but I assumed Kurvivor is away just for the summertime.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on October 22, 2018, 03:21:35 PM
Nope, my winning odds are still 0 anyway  ;lol
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 23, 2018, 05:18:36 PM
Nope, my winning odds are still 0 anyway  ;lol

Well, in my opinion it's never 0 as long as you're in game. All right, here's my proposal - I say we remove the Morganites and then Mart assesses (upon talking to Malla) if the Cyborgs deserve any kind of compensation.

What do you think, guys? Vishniac, you haven't added your two cents yet?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kurvivor on October 23, 2018, 09:42:35 PM
There is nothing i can say in my defense with clear consciense

I have no objection to being replaced.  I deserve worse
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on October 23, 2018, 11:55:04 PM
There is nothing i can say in my defense with clear consciense

I have no objection to being replaced.  I deserve worse

Damn man, sorry to talk about you as if were gone, but well, you've been gone for a long time.

Forget what I said, we play on.

Give me a moment with the turn, I didn't expect it. ;)
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on November 06, 2018, 04:20:59 PM
I have no objection to being replaced.  I deserve worse

No no, I'm the worst and I deserve good spanking. So sorry guys, my October was super busy and I expected a prolonged talk about possible replacement rather than the actual turn. In fact, I was kinda hoping that none of you shows up and I get to win by walkover. Oh well...
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 06, 2018, 06:45:12 PM
I may take several days to play my turn.
I'm swamped with work right now. :whip:
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 10, 2018, 05:23:12 PM
Oh crap… Game does not work anymore.
Maybe macOS 10.14 is the culprit.
Looking for a fix and get back here asap
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on November 11, 2018, 10:08:06 PM
No need to hurry!
The old computer I kept to play SMAC is dying: can't stay more than 20 minutes without freezing.

I'll have to transfer to my new Windows 10.
It'll sure bring unforeseen difficulties... ???
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on November 27, 2018, 05:32:11 PM
I'm sad but… I'm beginning to consider being replaced.
I tried several things, with no luck, and I just don't have the time to research a workaround…
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 04, 2018, 06:07:06 PM
Very sorry to hear that.

As for myself, after transferring the files, SMAC plays without problems on Windows 10.
(No, Kirov, you won't have it easy  :D )
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 08, 2019, 02:19:37 PM
Damn, I almost forgot that this game even exists... Guys, do we want to finish it and do we wait for replacement? Do I understand it clear that MallaxOZ is out?
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: roninscg on February 13, 2019, 09:47:19 AM

if you need a replacement,
I can step in,


Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 13, 2019, 12:11:42 PM
Thanks roninscg, your presence is appreciated and welcome onboard!

The rest of the gang, are you there? Can you please confirm that you're still up to play some and finish this game, finally? Also please contact roninscg about your previous diplomatic relations, although remember that with a change of the faction leader, all existing obligations of either party go down the drain and new ones need to be established.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on February 18, 2019, 11:52:42 PM
Lads? It ain't over until it's over.
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Vishniac on March 04, 2019, 06:55:37 PM
I'm here.
This will probably be the last SMAC MP game I'll ever play, let's try to finish it (around 2023 at this rate)!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Kirov on March 09, 2019, 01:42:35 PM
I'm here.
This will probably be the last SMAC MP game I'll ever play, let's try to finish it (around 2023 at this rate)!

Nah, why would you say that? We just started in... May 2015... holy crap!
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: roninscg on March 09, 2019, 03:53:59 PM
Nah, why would you say that? We just started in... May 2015... holy crap!

 ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol ;lol
Title: Re: First PBEM - TTT
Post by: Piotr Kras on September 27, 2021, 06:20:35 PM
Are original players from this game still around?
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