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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #135 on: February 16, 2023, 03:52:22 PM »
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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #136 on: February 16, 2023, 06:26:48 PM »
"The Moon is a Harsh Mistress!" -How in God's name did Steve "Listen to the Mockingbird!" Englehart never think of that when he had Moon Knight in the West Coast Avengers?


It's so cheesy, I now pronounce that Arcade's Moonbot said it in a Wisconsin accent.

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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #137 on: February 16, 2023, 08:41:09 PM »
The hell is going on? 

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« Reply #138 on: February 16, 2023, 09:09:26 PM »
Random pages Facebook offered me -and I knew you'd be trolled- if you know Arcade(sucks), you know as much as I do.  Probably a bot, maybe mind-control.

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« Reply #139 on: February 17, 2023, 02:17:01 AM »
I'm pretty sure it's established attempting mind control goes really really bad for the one entering Marc's mind.  I didn't see the panel on the other page at first and thought they were retconning him with cheesy lines, but that don't seem to be the case cause the one guy is right, that DON'T sound like MK. 

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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #140 on: February 17, 2023, 02:28:54 AM »
Ya think?



Well, Arcade never actually wins, and I have a theory about where the story's going...


But a Moon Knight killbot is way more in Arcade's typical line than brainwashing, though Murderworld is not a bad setting for the latter...

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« Reply #141 on: February 25, 2023, 04:26:22 PM »
May be an image of 2 people and text that says "MOVIE TRIVIA LOVINGTHE1980s LOVING1980s Shortly after completing the film, Tim Burton said "I liked parts of it, but the whole movie is mainly boring to me. It's okay, but it was more of a cultural phenomenon than a great movie.' He also wasn't enthusiastic about how Prince's songs were used in the film. As time has distanced him from the stressful production of the film, he has become more favorable ofit. BATMAN (1989) DIR. TIM BURTON"


I find it interesting that, although Burton doesn't hate the 1st Batman and I did, his criticisms of it are my own.  -Plus, the rubber batsuits they've used ever since are just horrible.

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« Reply #142 on: March 03, 2023, 02:02:55 AM »
Hey Uno - did you see middle of last year, I think it was, when Konshu did a major powerup and Moon Knight beat up all the Avengers over two issues of their book?

I'm pretty sure you'd hate the heck out of it, and not sure why I only just now thought of mentioning it...

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« Reply #143 on: March 04, 2023, 01:46:09 AM »
Just another in the long line of MK not being understood.  Uru is moon rock indeed. 

You really can’t trust him to be consistent from one iteration to the next. I do hope we see a continuation of the tv series but I’m not terribly hopeful. 

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« Reply #144 on: March 04, 2023, 03:21:43 AM »
Ho, you've actually kept up!

I'd submit that Konshu shenanigans and related unstable powerups are one of those Moon Knight tropes by now - am I wrong to assume it's happened a few times outside Avengers books?

I bet he's beaten up Moonstone a few times, too, and she ain't no joke.  -Hey, she's a criminal psychiatrist whose signature piece is a good [profoundly mess with mind; Uno] - why doesn't he have to -gone buck wild- beat her up and sleep with her and eat her moonstone every other year in the Mighty Marvel Hacky Style?


(-I did try to find a way to phrase that less dirty-sounding, and failed.)

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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #145 on: March 04, 2023, 02:31:09 PM »

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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #146 on: March 04, 2023, 06:15:33 PM »
^That would probably be in Thunderbolts in their Suicide Squad ripoff incarnation - which I MUST have seen, but do not recall.^




You'll like this, the inside cover page of something about 11 years ago:



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« Reply #147 on: March 05, 2023, 10:44:04 PM »
I'd submit that Konshu shenanigans and related unstable powerups are one of those Moon Knight tropes by now - am I wrong to assume it's happened a few times outside Avengers books?

Lets see, off top of my head, I've seen him become essentially another Iron Man/suit powered hero.
Legitimately MAGIC powered
Lycanthrope yes/no/maybe
Batman gadget for any occasion to hell and back
- and all that was before Khonshu really became a thing on his own.  I mean Khonshu was BACKGROUND tidbit for a good long chunk of MK's history.

NONE of that has anything to do with what makes MK good though.   

The two things that make good MK stories IMO is so much less about the powers, and so much more about leaning into his insanity and the people around him, the network he's formed, much akin to his original inspiration The Shadow. 

Marlene
Frenchie (by extension Rob, though I think that's a silly cop out)
Crawley
Gena and her boys
Flint
Scarlet
Etc. 

Gotta have those tidbits in place and keep it as much personal as it is about insert great evil here.  So, take MK stealing the Avengers powers just cause Khonshu said so.   That just don't work.  You have Mephisto torturing Marlene and Frenchie, but no one believes/will help Marc because Mephisto is all locked up and it must just be in his head again so MK goes hell bent on saving them by any means necessary and that arc fits a WHOLE LOT MORE.  We can even have Khonshu more interested in keeping his newfound status than helping MK out so the phoenix force deal fits. 

Kinda similar to how Batman becomes increasingly boring in most media due to the lack of understanding or capability to pull off a successful Robin.  Batman stories NEED Robin to stay grounded and really SHOULDN'T be in the Justice League level stories IMO.  Just as MK should remain grounded and not shoehorned into Avengers level stories just because he's got a series that needs hype or did good thus he's in the national conversation.  Keep it smaller and somehow personal to him if you need him somewhere bigger.  Avengers, Fantastic 4, Xmen, they handle big timey stuff.  Girl getting raped at night, MK is all over it.




Sorry, quoting foul up - haven't edited anything.
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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #148 on: March 05, 2023, 10:55:40 PM »
The Punisher (ugh) has had some similar problems with way off-model stuff being done with him - maybe not nearly as much, though.  But FrankenCastle?  Something Angel?  Have they even bothered to fish him out of the Cosmic Ghost Rider stuff yet?


Fer goshsakes, Frank playing a Ghost Rider as Deadpool?  Really?

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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #149 on: March 06, 2023, 01:43:30 AM »
IMO the comics have gone really weird since the Disney acquisition.  And a lot of it was in direct response to purposely not supporting IPs Disney didn't have movie rights to. 

I mean one of the first things was 'no more mutants"...right after a failed negotiation for movie rights...  At the time Xmen was a HUGE portion of the comic business.  You had to fill that void with something. 

The recent rise of ghost rider of all being a great example since it sure coincided with that TV series leaning HEAVILY into Ghost Rider. 

I'm curious if the new focus on quality over quantity mission statement for Disney/MCU will impact the comics as well.  It feels the comic arm has more and more become a means to hype the other properties.  Maybe it can get back to just telling stories the writers want to across any of the IPs.   

 

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