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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #150 on: March 06, 2023, 02:01:33 AM »
I think if I was calling shots at Marvel Comics, I'd feel forced to urge the talent to be at least superficially resembling the movies where applicable - and I say that as a nets nerd who deeply resents showbidness disrespecting the source material.

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« Reply #151 on: March 06, 2023, 02:30:37 AM »
his original inspiration The Shadow.
Excuse me while I, Moonknight, the Shroud and Nighthawk all laugh at you...


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« Reply #152 on: March 06, 2023, 03:34:31 AM »
If you want me to go dig into storage and scan the Q&As out of the old editions...It would take a good while. 

The original Villain version just kinda happened.  "We need werewolf by night costumed villain."  Insert moon.  Insert silver weapons.  Insert white costume to contrast the colorful panels.  Merc just in it for the money because Moench hated the committee as villains. 

Once it got thrown to production, they went back to The Shadow to bring the more mystical aspect and specifically NOT be a Batman ripoff and took inspiration from Sybil (which was all the rage at the time) and purposely went wouldn't it be cool if the identities were really all different personalities in his head.  Thus the creation of 3 identities instead of the typical 2 of that hero archetype.  Khonshu because the Tut museum tours of the 70s were golden so try to capture some of that. 

The one offs for Hulk were kind of trying to figure out the specifics of how it would work.  Highlight there is the one with his brother. 

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« Reply #153 on: March 06, 2023, 03:45:06 AM »
I was mostly just quibbling about the word "original" in front of "inspiration".

Obviously the The Shadow stuff is in there by design and quite true as far as that goes - just not going so much to the very beginning with silver-batarang reverse-color Batman fighting WWBN...

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« Reply #154 on: March 06, 2023, 02:04:30 PM »
...I just read a sequel comic -only because of our discussion, Arcade still sucks beyond words- and it looks like Moon Knight in those Facebook pages was indeed a killbot...

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« Reply #155 on: March 06, 2023, 02:16:49 PM »
...The interesting thing about John Walker in the comics was, he was a straight-up sleazy 'Publican jerk who criticized Cap as lame and old-fashioned - until he was hired as the new Cap and tried very hard to live up to the legacy.  He failed often, people got killed, he was still a 'Publican jerk and a failure as Cap --- but he was an HONEST jerk now, and eventually grew into a decent superhero in his post-Cap career as USAgent.

I'm a sucker for redemption narratives...
-And I should have mentioned that all that makes him a perfect vehicle for all the stories various writers nearly all want to do sometimes - Cap as a hopelessly square conservative tough to be around, which doesn't actually fit a child of the Depression with a very kind heart.  Using Walker/USAgent, instead, for such stories is a pretty good fit.


As I said, he's grown a lot and sincerely renounced killing and become a genuine hero, BUT - a little hard-hearted, and not as adaptable as Cap...

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« Reply #157 on: March 13, 2023, 09:38:26 PM »
SO - I just read through the current Moon Knight series, just to be able to discuss w/ you.

Heart's at least half in the right place, I guess, but way too much Khonshu/Khosu adjacent stuff?

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« Reply #158 on: March 13, 2023, 10:03:29 PM »
I typically only pick and choose what I read.  And you'll have to be a lot more specific as they kinda went nuts on MK with the TV show. 

Murderworld:  Have not read, not interested

Black White and Blood: Have not read mildly interested  Killer covers. 

Midnight mission: first anthologies coming out I need to see if I want to read. 

Crypt of Shadows:  Looks stupid but fun. 

Might be more ongoing I don't know about because of how little I pay attention. 


Mostly like the original 30-40 book run, the Huston run, and the Lemire run.  It's real spotty outside that. 


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« Reply #159 on: March 13, 2023, 10:10:16 PM »

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« Reply #160 on: March 14, 2023, 03:55:53 AM »
Me knight is pretty recent.  I’m fairly indifferent.

That’s the midnight mission series.  Which doesn’t immediately strike me as MK but haven’t read.  I know there’s Scarlet at some point, and a lot of c tier guest heroes.  Synopsis almost reads like someone was a fan of west coast avengers…

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« Reply #161 on: March 14, 2023, 11:36:04 AM »
I wouldn't have thought he'd remember much of that, being as it wasn't him.

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Re: Dragon Ball / heroic adventure fiction / comics
« Reply #162 on: September 06, 2023, 05:53:20 PM »
...I caught up on the current MK series -Midnight Mission stuff- yesterday afternoon...
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