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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2115 on: October 13, 2016, 08:28:56 PM »
You know, I don't expect Gary to win.  I'm a pessimist at heart. But I do believe that third parties force issues and change the country.

But there are times when I am moved to tears when I believe it's actually possible that I won't be subject to the most hated professional politician in America, or the most egotistical demagogue in America.

Some early voting results-


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2116 on: October 14, 2016, 12:50:30 AM »
I was phrasing it in my head, yesterday: "He's really running for 'Make Libertarian a real party'.  That ideological approach to governance has merit, and it's worth doing."


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2117 on: October 14, 2016, 03:02:12 AM »
I was phrasing it in my head, yesterday: "He's really running for 'Make Libertarian a real party'.  That ideological approach to governance has merit, and it's worth doing."


At the minimum, yes.

He said he wouldn't have been running without a chance to win the whole thing, but doesn't believe it possible without getting his message out in the debate, and appearing there as an equal option to the Democrat and Republican.

Speaking of the message, this is perhaps the most important one-

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2118 on: October 14, 2016, 04:07:28 AM »
There hasn't been enough honoring the constitution in this century, that's for sure.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2119 on: October 14, 2016, 06:12:22 AM »
They are calling this the best speech of the entire campaign. Michelle Obama denounces the behavior of a certain masher who she refuses to name.

There's video as well as a transcript. I'm not cutting and pasting, because I think she is an excellent speaker, and I suggest you listen. 


http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497846667/transcript-michelle-obamas-speech-on-donald-trumps-alleged-treatment-of-women

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2120 on: October 14, 2016, 06:28:49 AM »
-says-done-commission-presidential-debates]http://theweek.com/speedreads/654763/donald-[Sleezebag]-says-done-commission-presidential-debates

'I'm done'
Donald [Sleezebag] says he is 'done' with the Commission for Presidential Debates
October 12, 2016

Despite saying how excited he was to "beat" Hillary Clinton yet again in their third and final presidential debate, Donald [Sleezebag] seemed to suggest Wednesday that he might skip the Las Vegas face-off next week because of his frustrations with the Commission for Presidential Debates. "I have no respect for that group by the way," [Sleezebag] said Wednesday at a rally in Florida. "I'm done."

He announced to the crowd that he'd "just found" out that the organization's "head guy used to work for Bill Clinton," suggesting the nonpartisan, nonprofit group that oversees the debates is biased. What [Sleezebag] failed to note, however, is that the other co-chair of the commission is a former Republican National Committee chairman.

When The Daily Beast's Olivia Nuzzi asked [Sleezebag] communications director Jason Miller what exactly [Sleezebag] meant by saying he was "done" with the debate commission, Miller insisted [Sleezebag] "looks forward to the third debate." —Becca Stanek

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[Sleezebag] is going nasty/angry.  Insisting it's all lies, blaming the GOP establishment, the biased media, etc.  It's not going to broaden his support, it's playing to his base.      I still think he's setting up [Sleezebag] TV. That's why he has Roger Ailes now.


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2121 on: October 14, 2016, 12:34:24 PM »
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2122 on: October 14, 2016, 04:30:51 PM »
For those of us who may be hearing impaired-

-called-deaf-apprentice-marlee-matlin-retarded.html]http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/13/donald-[Sleezebag]-called-deaf-apprentice-marlee-matlin-retarded.html

The article is cut and paste resistant .

I guess I shouldn't expect anybody that ostentatious to treat others with lesser net worth respectfully.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2123 on: October 14, 2016, 08:58:45 PM »
You know, I don't expect Gary to win.  I'm a pessimist at heart. But I do believe that third parties force issues and change the country.

But there are times when I am moved to tears when I believe it's actually possible that I won't be subject to the most hated professional politician in America, or the most egotistical demagogue in America.

Some early voting results-

Can you provide a source link, I had told a few people what about 0.3% of Registered voters in Ohio have already put into the ballots and the immediately wanted the source  (or would not believe it).
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2124 on: October 15, 2016, 12:08:40 AM »
I have since learned that it was a mock election. Early voting is open, though.

Let me see if I can find the original source... mostly people talking about it, or repeating it.

I followed a link to the Ohio secretary of State's website, but got a no longer available notice.


There is this-  -and-clinton-in-ohio-early-voting/#axzz4N6XbU5Rm]http://libertyviral.com/breaking-gary-johnson-leads-[Sleezebag]-and-clinton-in-ohio-early-voting/#axzz4N6XbU5Rm
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2125 on: October 15, 2016, 07:50:17 PM »
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/301174-kasich-gop-must-evolve-or-it-will-die

Politics

Kasich: GOP must evolve or it will die
The Hill 3 hours ago

Ohio Gov. John Kasich has a grave warning for the GOP. "If the Republican Party does not evolve, the Republican Party is going to die," Kasich said in an interview with Business Insider published Saturday.
"The Republican Party cannot be anti-trade, anti-immigrant, not out there practicing the politics of people, you know, the issues surrounding drug addiction and mental illness and the cost of prescription drugs and healthcare and student debt and all of these things are very personal to people now."

"So I do believe that the party needs to evolve, or I won't be a part of it," he said.

Kasich has been a critic of Republican presidential nominee Donald [Sleezebag], whom he clashed with during the GOP primary.

Last week, Kasich chastised Republicans who have not yet condemned [Sleezebag]'s lewd comments and urged them to "lead by example."
"I don't have any more words," he said.

"I've tried to do the best I can to lead by my actions in an appropriate way without recrimination or anything like that, because I ... I'm a very happy person. I don't think I need to say any more than what I've demonstrated.”

The comments came after the release of a 2005 tape in which [Sleezebag] talks about how he can grope and kiss women without their consent because of his celebrity status.

Offline E_T

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2126 on: October 15, 2016, 08:14:46 PM »
They are calling this the best speech of the entire campaign. Michelle Obama denounces the behavior of a certain masher who she refuses to name.

There's video as well as a transcript. I'm not cutting and pasting, because I think she is an excellent speaker, and I suggest you listen. 


http://www.npr.org/2016/10/13/497846667/transcript-michelle-obamas-speech-on-donald-trumps-alleged-treatment-of-women


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       October 13, 20164:27 PM ET            C-SPAN via  YouTube    My goodness! You guys are fired up!
Well, let me just say hello everyone. I am so thrilled to be here with you all today in New Hampshire. This is like home to me, and this day — thank you for a beautiful fall day. You just ordered this day up for me, didn't you? It's great to be here.
   -comments-have-shaken-me-to-my-core]WATCH: Michelle Obama Says [Sleezebag          Politics -comments-have-shaken-me-to-my-core] WATCH: Michelle Obama Says [Sleezebag] Comments Have 'Shaken Me To My Core'    Let me start by thanking your fabulous governor, your next U.S. senator, Maggie Hassan. I want to thank her for that lovely introduction. I also want to recognize your Congresswoman Annie McKlane Kuster, who's a dear, dear friend. Your soon-to-be congresswoman once again, Carol Shea Porter — all of whom have been just terrific friends to us. And your Executive Council and candidate for governor, Colin Van Ostern.
And, of course, thanks to all of you for taking the time to be here today.
AUDIENCE MEMBER: We love you!
Thanks so much. That's very sweet of you. I love you guys too. I can't believe it's just a few weeks before Election Day, as we come together to support the next President and Vice President of the United States, Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine! And New Hampshire is going to be important, as always.
So I'm going to get a little serious here, because I think we can all agree that this has been a rough week in an already rough election. This week has been particularly interesting for me personally because it has been a week of profound contrast.
   -calls-assault-allegations-pure-fiction-pledges-evidence-to-dispute][Sleezebag          Politics -calls-assault-allegations-pure-fiction-pledges-evidence-to-dispute] [Sleezebag] Calls Assault Allegations 'Pure Fiction,' Pledges Evidence To Dispute    See, on Tuesday, at the White House, we celebrated the International Day of the Girl and Let Girls Learn, and it was a wonderful celebration. It was the last event that I'm going to be doing as First Lady for Let Girls Learn. And I had the pleasure of spending hours talking to some of the most amazing young women you will ever meet, young girls here in the U.S. and all around the world. And we talked about their hopes and their dreams. We talked about their aspirations. See, because many of these girls have faced unthinkable obstacles just to attend school, jeopardizing their personal safety, their freedom, risking the rejection of their families and communities.
   2 More Women Accuse [Sleezebag          Politics A List Of The Accusations About [Sleezebag]'s Alleged Inappropriate Sexual Conduct    So I thought it would be important to remind these young women how valuable and precious they are. I wanted them to understand that the measure of any society is how it treats its women and girls. And I told them that they deserve to be treated with dignity and respect, and I told them that they should disregard anyone who demeans or devalues them, and that they should make their voices heard in the world. And I walked away feeling so inspired, just like I'm inspired by all the young people here — and I was so uplifted by these girls. That was Tuesday.
And now, here I am, out on the campaign trail in an election where we have consistently been hearing hurtful, hateful language about women — language that has been painful for so many of us, not just as women, but as parents trying to protect our children and raise them to be caring, respectful adults, and as citizens who think that our nation's leaders should meet basic standards of human decency.
The fact is that in this election, we have a candidate for President of the United States who, over the course of his lifetime and the course of this campaign, has said things about women that are so shocking, so demeaning that I simply will not repeat anything here today. And last week, we saw this candidate actually bragging about sexually assaulting women. And I can't believe that I'm saying that a candidate for President of the United States has bragged about sexually assaulting women.
And I have to tell you that I can't stop thinking about this. It has shaken me to my core in a way that I couldn't have predicted. So while I'd love nothing more than to pretend like this isn't happening, and to come out here and do my normal campaign speech, it would be dishonest and disingenuous to me to just move on to the next thing like this was all just a bad dream.
This is not something that we can ignore. It's not something we can just sweep under the rug as just another disturbing footnote in a sad election season. Because this was not just a "lewd conversation." This wasn't just locker-room banter. This was a powerful individual speaking freely and openly about sexually predatory behavior, and actually bragging about kissing and groping women, using language so obscene that many of us were worried about our children hearing it when we turn on the TV.
And to make matters worse, it now seems very clear that this isn't an isolated incident. It's one of countless examples of how he has treated women his whole life. And I have to tell you that I listen to all of this and I feel it so personally, and I'm sure that many of you do too, particularly the women. The shameful comments about our bodies. The disrespect of our ambitions and intellect. The belief that you can do anything you want to a woman.
It is cruel. It's frightening. And the truth is, it hurts. It hurts. It's like that sick, sinking feeling you get when you're walking down the street minding your own business and some guy yells out vulgar words about your body. Or when you see that guy at work that stands just a little too close, stares a little too long, and makes you feel uncomfortable in your own skin.
   'We Are Better Than That': Clinton Sees An Opening In Voters Turned Off By [Sleezebag          Politics 'We Are Better Than That': Clinton Sees An Opening In Voters Turned Off By [Sleezebag]    It's that feeling of terror and violation that too many women have felt when someone has grabbed them, or forced himself on them and they've said no but he didn't listen — something that we know happens on college campuses and countless other places every single day. It reminds us of stories we heard from our mothers and grandmothers about how, back in their day, the boss could say and do whatever he pleased to the women in the office, and even though they worked so hard, jumped over every hurdle to prove themselves, it was never enough.
We thought all of that was ancient history, didn't we? And so many have worked for so many years to end this kind of violence and abuse and disrespect, but here we are in 2016 and we're hearing these exact same things every day on the campaign trail. We are drowning in it. And all of us are doing what women have always done: We're trying to keep our heads above water, just trying to get through it, trying to pretend like this doesn't really bother us maybe because we think that admitting how much it hurts makes us as women look weak.
Maybe we're afraid to be that vulnerable. Maybe we've grown accustomed to swallowing these emotions and staying quiet, because we've seen that people often won't take our word over his. Or maybe we don't want to believe that there are still people out there who think so little of us as women. Too many are treating this as just another day's headline, as if our outrage is overblown or unwarranted, as if this is normal, just politics as usual.
   -in-crisis]NPR Battleground Map: [Sleezebag          Politics -in-crisis] NPR Battleground Map: [Sleezebag] In Crisis    But, New Hampshire, be clear: This is not normal. This is not politics as usual. This is disgraceful. It is intolerable. And it doesn't matter what party you belong to — Democrat, Republican, independent — no woman deserves to be treated this way. None of us deserves this kind of abuse.
And I know it's a campaign, but this isn't about politics. It's about basic human decency. It's about right and wrong. And we simply cannot endure this, or expose our children to this any longer — not for another minute, and let alone for four years. Now is the time for all of us to stand up and say enough is enough. This has got to stop right now.
Because consider this: If all of this is painful to us as grown women, what do you think this is doing to our children? What message are our little girls hearing about who they should look like, how they should act? What lessons are they learning about their value as professionals, as human beings, about their dreams and aspirations? And how is this affecting men and boys in this country? Because I can tell you that the men in my life do not talk about women like this. And I know that my family is not unusual. And to dismiss this as everyday locker-room talk is an insult to decent men everywhere.
The men that you and I know don't treat women this way. They are loving fathers who are sickened by the thought of their daughters being exposed to this kind of vicious language about women. They are husbands and brothers and sons who don't tolerate women being treated and demeaned and disrespected. And like us, these men are worried about the impact this election is having on our boys who are looking for role models of what it means to be a man.
In fact, someone recently told me a story about their six-year-old son who one day was watching the news — they were watching the news together. And the little boy, out of the blue, said, "I think Hillary Clinton will be President." And his mom said, "Well, why do you say that?" And this little six-year-old said, "Because the other guy called someone a piggy, and," he said, "you cannot be President if you call someone a piggy."
So even a six-year-old knows better. A six-year-old knows that this is not how adults behave. This is not how decent human beings behave. And this is certainly not how someone who wants to be President of the United States behaves.
Because let's be very clear: Strong men — men who are truly role models — don't need to put down women to make themselves feel powerful. People who are truly strong lift others up. People who are truly powerful bring others together. And that is what we need in our next President. We need someone who is a uniting force in this country. We need someone who will heal the wounds that divide us, someone who truly cares about us and our children, someone with strength and compassion to lead this country forward.
And let me tell you, I'm here today because I believe with all of my heart that Hillary Clinton will be that President.
See, we know that Hillary is the right person for the job because we've seen her character and commitment not just in this campaign, but over the course of her entire life. The fact is that Hillary embodies so many of the values that we try so hard to teach our young people. We tell our young people "Work hard in school, get a good education." We encourage them to use that education to help others — which is exactly what Hillary did with her college and law degrees, advocating for kids with disabilities, fighting for children's health care as First Lady, affordable child care in the Senate.
We teach our kids the value of being a team player, which is what Hillary exemplified when she lost the 2008 election and actually agreed to work for her opponent as our Secretary of State — earning sky-high approval ratings serving her country once again.
We also teach our kids that you don't take shortcuts in life, and you strive for meaningful success in whatever job you do. Well, Hillary has been a lawyer, a law professor, First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the United States, a U.S. senator, Secretary of State. And she has been successful in every role, gaining more experience and exposure to the presidency than any candidate in our lifetime — more than Barack, more than Bill. And, yes, she happens to be a woman.
   -and-the-testosterone-takeover-of-2016][Sleezebag          Politics -and-the-testosterone-takeover-of-2016] [Sleezebag] And The Testosterone Takeover Of 2016      A Complete Guide To Early And Absentee Voting          Politics A Complete Guide To Early And Absentee Voting     And finally, we teach our kids that when you hit challenges in life, you don't give up, you stick with it. Well, during her four years as Secretary of State alone, Hillary has faced her share of challenges. She's traveled to 112 countries, negotiated a ceasefire, a peace agreement, a release of dissidents. She spent 11 hours testifying before a congressional committee. We know that when things get tough, Hillary doesn't complain. She doesn't blame others. She doesn't abandon ship for something easier. No, Hillary Clinton has never quit on anything in her life.
So in Hillary, we have a candidate who has dedicated her life to public service, someone who has waited her turn and helped out while waiting. She is an outstanding mother. She has raised a phenomenal young woman. She is a loving, loyal wife. She's a devoted daughter who cared for her mother until her final days. And if any of us had raised a daughter like Hillary Clinton, we would be so proud. We would be proud.
And regardless of who her opponent might be, no one could be more qualified for this job than Hillary — no one. And in this election, if we turn away from her, if we just stand by and allow her opponent to be elected, then what are we teaching our children about the values they should hold, about the kind of life they should lead? What are we saying?
In our hearts, we all know that if we let Hillary's opponent win this election, then we are sending a clear message to our kids that everything they're seeing and hearing is perfectly okay. We are validating it. We are endorsing it. We're telling our sons that it's okay to humiliate women. We're telling our daughters that this is how they deserve to be treated. We're telling all our kids that bigotry and bullying are perfectly acceptable in the leader of their country. Is that what we want for our children?
And remember, we won't just be setting a bad example for our kids, but for our entire world. Because for so long, America has been a model for countries across the globe, pushing them to educate their girls, insisting that they give more rights to their women. But if we have a President who routinely degrades women, who brags about sexually assaulting women, then how can we maintain our moral authority in the world? How can we continue to be a beacon of freedom and justice and human dignity?
Well, fortunately, New Hampshire, here's the beauty: We have everything we need to stop this madness. You see, while our mothers and grandmothers were often powerless to change their circumstances, today, we as women have all the power we need to determine the outcome of this election.
We have knowledge. We have a voice. We have a vote. And on November the 8th, we as women, we as Americans, we as decent human beings can come together and declare that enough is enough, and we do not tolerate this kind of behavior in this country.
Remember this: In 2012, women's votes were the difference between Barack winning and losing in key swing states, including right here in New Hampshire. So for anyone who might be thinking that your one vote doesn't really matter, or that one person can't really make a difference, consider this: Back in 2012, Barack won New Hampshire by about 40,000 votes, which sounds like a lot. But when you break that number down, the difference between winning and losing this state was only 66 votes per precinct. Just take that in. If 66 people each precinct had gone the other way, Barack would have lost.
So each of you right here today could help swing an entire precinct and win this election for Hillary just by getting yourselves, your families, and your friends and neighbors out to vote. You can do it right here. But you could also help swing an entire precinct for Hillary's opponent with a protest vote or by staying home out of frustration.
Because here's the truth: Either Hillary Clinton or her opponent will be elected president this year. And if you vote for someone other than Hillary, or if you don't vote at all, then you are helping to elect her opponent. And just think about how you will feel if that happens. Imagine waking up on November the 9th and looking into the eyes of your daughter or son, or looking into your own eyes as you stare into the mirror. Imagine how you'll feel if you stayed home, or if you didn't do everything possible to elect Hillary.
We simply cannot let that happen. We cannot allow ourselves to be so disgusted that we just shut off the TV and walk away. And we can't just sit around wringing our hands. Now, we need to recover from our shock and depression and do what women have always done in this country. We need you to roll up your sleeves. We need to get to work. Because remember this: When they go low, we go ...
AUDIENCE: High!
Yes, we do.
And voting ourselves is a great start, but we also have to step up and start organizing. So we need you to make calls and knock on doors and get folks to the polls on Election Day and sign up to volunteer with one of the Hillary campaign folks who are here today just waiting for you to step up.
And, young people and not-so-young people, get on social media. Share your own story of why this election matters, why it should matter for all people of conscience in this country. There is so much at stake in this election.
See, the choice you make Nov. 8 could determine whether we have a President who treats people with respect — or not. A President who will fight for kids, for good schools, for good jobs for our families — or not. A President who thinks that women deserve the right to make our own choices about our bodies and our health — or not. That's just a little bit of what's at stake.
So we cannot afford to be tired or turned off. And we cannot afford to stay home on Election Day. Because on November the 8th, we have the power to show our children that America's greatness comes from recognizing the innate dignity and worth of all our people. On November the 8th, we can show our children that this country is big enough to have a place for us all — men and women, folks of every background and walk of life — and that each of us is a precious part of this great American story, and we are always stronger together.
On Nov. 8, we can show our children that here in America, we reject hatred and fear and in difficult times, we don't discard our highest ideals. No, we rise up to meet them. We rise up to perfect our union. We rise up to defend our blessings of liberty. We rise up to embody the values of equality and opportunity and sacrifice that have always made this country the greatest nation on Earth.
That is who we are. And don't ever let anyone tell you differently. Hope is important. Hope is important for our young people. And we deserve a President who can see those truths in us — a President who can bring us together and bring out the very best in us. Hillary Clinton will be that President.
So for the next 26 days, we need to do everything we can to help her and Tim Kaine win this election. I know I'm going to be doing it. Are you with me? Are you all with me? You ready to roll up your sleeves? Get to work knocking on doors?
All right, let's get to work. Thank you all. God bless.
This transcript was released by the White House Office of the First Lady
 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2127 on: October 15, 2016, 08:16:05 PM »
looses some of the formatting, but meh...
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2128 on: October 16, 2016, 12:37:07 AM »
Well, I didn't try to cut and pace that one simply because I wanted people to hear the First Lady speak, but I'm glad you posted it.

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* I haven't spoken much about Evan McMullen lately. He was competitive in Utah in one poll. I didn't think he's get there. Originally my opposition to him was that it wasn't a serious campaign, as he was only on the ballot in ten states, and has placeholder VPs in some of those, as he didn't have a running mate. So I didn't think he was relevant.  Secondly, by the time he was in the race I was preferring Gary Johnson, and it seemed as if  he was stealing Johnson's back-up 12th Amendment strategy. Except that as a Mormon and a consultant to the GOP In the House, he had the inside track. 

But you know, Just as Tom Paine once convinced me that kings have no hereditary right to people, as that equates the people to cattle, I've reaffirmed my idea this year that the parties have no hereditary right to voters. Not because of sex, creed, color, or location. Not because of who their parents voted for. Votes have to be earned.

Even if the 12 Amendment scenario, or any other idea originated with the Johnson campaign or Libertarian Party, just because he has a campaign headquarters in Utah, it doesn't mean that he's entitled to the idea and state exclusively.  Utah has 1 more Electoral College vote than New Mexico, so Johnson would need to pick up at least one other state to win that way. So, no point in blaming McMullen for trying. If it comes to that, I would lobby my Congressman on his behalf, simply because he respects the Constitution more than Clump.

But I do have another reason to oppose the guy, whose credentials are basically- CIA covert operative, Goldman-Sachs guy, and Congressional foreign affairs consultant.     He wants boots on the ground to eradicate ISIS, and he wants a special forces operation to remove Assad.

 I want an end to meddling in the Mid-East and let people change their own regimes.

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I've seen some interviews on Republican women loyal to [Sleezebag]. It goes something like this - Yes, the allegations are serious. I'm not saying those women are lying. I am saying that in America we believe in innocent until proven guilty. We need to focus on the issues.

I tend to think that 1) Tell [Sleezebag] to focus on the issues! 2) Speaking of the issues , how is [Sleezebag]'s support of a 35% import tariff different from the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act Republicans blame for The Great Depression? 3) [Sleezebag] is promising jobs for America. If he once promised a contestant on his show a job, but only tried to screw her, isn't that part of his record on job promises and relevant to the campaign.


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2129 on: October 16, 2016, 01:26:50 AM »
Well, I didn't try to cut and pace that one simply because I wanted people to hear the First Lady speak, but I'm glad you posted it.

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* I haven't spoken much about Evan McMullen lately. He was competitive in Utah in one poll. I didn't think he's get there. Originally my opposition to him was that it wasn't a serious campaign, as he was only on the ballot in ten states, and has placeholder VPs in some of those, as he didn't have a running mate. So I didn't think he was relevant.  Secondly, by the time he was in the race I was preferring Gary Johnson, and it seemed as if  he was stealing Johnson's back-up 12th Amendment strategy. Except that as a Mormon and a consultant to the GOP In the House, he had the inside track. 

But you know, Just as Tom Paine once convinced me that kings have no hereditary right to people, as that equates the people to cattle, I've reaffirmed my idea this year that the parties have no hereditary right to voters. Not because of sex, creed, color, or location. Not because of who their parents voted for. Votes have to be earned.

Even if the 12 Amendment scenario, or any other idea originated with the Johnson campaign or Libertarian Party, just because he has a campaign headquarters in Utah, it doesn't mean that he's entitled to the idea and state exclusively.  Utah has 1 more Electoral College vote than New Mexico, so Johnson would need to pick up at least one other state to win that way. So, no point in blaming McMullen for trying. If it comes to that, I would lobby my Congressman on his behalf, simply because he respects the Constitution more than Clump.

But I do have another reason to oppose the guy, whose credentials are basically- CIA covert operative, Goldman-Sachs guy, and Congressional foreign affairs consultant.     He wants boots on the ground to eradicate ISIS, and he wants a special forces operation to remove Assad.

 I want an end to meddling in the Mid-East and let people change their own regimes.

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I've seen some interviews on Republican women loyal to T rump. It goes something like this - Yes, the allegations are serious. I'm not saying those women are lying. I am saying that in America we believe in innocent until proven guilty. We need to focus on the issues.

I tend to think that 1) Tell T rump to focus on the issues! 2) Speaking of the issues , how is T rump's support of a 35% import tariff different from the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act Republicans blame for The Great Depression? 3) T rump is promising jobs for America. If he once promised a contestant on his show a job, but only tried to screw her, isn't that part of his record on job promises and relevant to the campaign.

I agree, the other parties SHOULD be wanting to have others up on the stage, so that their pick has more backdrop to better shine and show how much better they are.  But instead, they are trying to ignore the others... 

True, A lot of people look at the example of Perot, where the loser was very possibly cost the race due to losing more votes to him than to the other party.  In some respects, this is almost as bad as the Single party Communist system, where you could not vote for anyone one else.  So now, it's only vote for me or him, vote one or the other.

And conversely, Multiple parties, where coalitions must be formed to rule or govern, also has problems, when you have to maintain that coalition or just can't form one at all.  The two party system has worked, but has also changed over the centuries and the current heads are resisting that much needed change.

But then, what internal politics drove those other changes, too??  Was it due to  shifts in reality or for reasons of political garbage that actually worked, for that time?
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