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Offline Yitzi

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #135 on: October 30, 2014, 05:29:09 PM »
Of course I did: Purity is explicitly deciding "even though we can change the human form to better adapt to the new environment, we won't".
Low-tech is low-tech, regardless of the intentions.

True, but affinity depends on the intentions.

Offline BlaneckW

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #136 on: October 31, 2014, 03:49:06 AM »
True, but affinity depends on the intentions.
The amish are low-tech regardless of their intentions.

Offline Yitzi

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #137 on: October 31, 2014, 10:22:14 AM »
True, but affinity depends on the intentions.
The amish are low-tech regardless of their intentions.

Why does that matter?  You're the one who decided to bring the Amish into this; I'm perfectly fine with them being irrelevant to the discussion.

Offline BlaneckW

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #138 on: October 31, 2014, 03:13:26 PM »
You're the one who decided to bring the Amish into this; I'm perfectly fine with them being irrelevant to the discussion.
Space amish are also low-tech.

Offline Yitzi

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #139 on: November 02, 2014, 01:05:22 PM »
You're the one who decided to bring the Amish into this; I'm perfectly fine with them being irrelevant to the discussion.
Space amish are also low-tech.

So then you were wrong in categorizing Purity as Amish.  Are you apologizing for your error?

Offline BeyondChiron

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #140 on: November 21, 2014, 05:20:05 AM »
 ;deidre; Harmony, tendency to go green, concious of planet life, hints of desire for adaptation (the gaian acolyte prayer) which  translated into research about planetlife (assuming the Pholus mutagen quote is planetvoice answer to the implementation of said discovery) and transcendece (assuming that deirdre given the AoT and Transcendent thought means she canonically won)

 ;yang; Supremacy. People have brought up he seems to be kinda low tech but he is all about the inmortality of the mind, the control of the input and the gradual improvement process. On top of that the Self-Aware Colony seems to be his which is pretty supremacy.

 ;zak; he is complicated. His focus on research means he could be equally either supremcy or harmony (given all the genetic tech he is related, VoP and the fact that harmony does need a crapton of technologies too) but his intentions were probably more akin to those of supremacy (survival through research and science). Given his manner of speaking in the late game quotes it wouldnt be that weird to see him eventually calling robots angels and prophets, and on top of that he does have some distaste for mind worms.

 ;morgan; purity. materialistic, non caring of planet and loving that life (longevity vaccine). the Centauri Monopoly probably wouldnt work with robots or a hivemind either

 ;santi; I think she would accidently end up going supremacy. While ideologically she would probably be more Purity-like, if you agree with my interpretation of her wonder quotes, she ended up with the cloning vats, nano factories and cyborg factories...which is pretty supremacy.

 ;miriam; purity. i wont even bother explaining lol

 ;lal; i feel like ideologically he was purity, as he was all about the sancticity of humankind and the UN mission


 ;cha; harmony is the closest

 ;aki; straight up supremacy

 ;domai; no love for tech but a lot of love for handmade work and careless about planet so purity.

 ;roze;  ;ulrik; i got no clue



I'm new  btw :D


Offline Geo

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #141 on: November 21, 2014, 10:03:31 AM »
Welcome to the forum.
BUncle already made the perfect "Beyond Chiron" avatar for you. ;)

Offline Yitzi

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #142 on: November 21, 2014, 12:28:21 PM »
;deidre; Harmony, tendency to go green, concious of planet life, hints of desire for adaptation (the gaian acolyte prayer) which  translated into research about planetlife (assuming the Pholus mutagen quote is planetvoice answer to the implementation of said discovery) and transcendece (assuming that deirdre given the AoT and Transcendent thought means she canonically won)

 ;yang; Supremacy. People have brought up he seems to be kinda low tech but he is all about the inmortality of the mind, the control of the input and the gradual improvement process. On top of that the Self-Aware Colony seems to be his which is pretty supremacy.

 ;zak; he is complicated. His focus on research means he could be equally either supremcy or harmony (given all the genetic tech he is related, VoP and the fact that harmony does need a crapton of technologies too) but his intentions were probably more akin to those of supremacy (survival through research and science). Given his manner of speaking in the late game quotes it wouldnt be that weird to see him eventually calling robots angels and prophets, and on top of that he does have some distaste for mind worms.

 ;morgan; purity. materialistic, non caring of planet and loving that life (longevity vaccine). the Centauri Monopoly probably wouldnt work with robots or a hivemind either

 ;santi; I think she would accidently end up going supremacy. While ideologically she would probably be more Purity-like, if you agree with my interpretation of her wonder quotes, she ended up with the cloning vats, nano factories and cyborg factories...which is pretty supremacy.

 ;miriam; purity. i wont even bother explaining lol

 ;lal; i feel like ideologically he was purity, as he was all about the sancticity of humankind and the UN mission


 ;cha; harmony is the closest

 ;aki; straight up supremacy

 ;domai; no love for tech but a lot of love for handmade work and careless about planet so purity.

 ;roze;  ;ulrik; i got no clue



I'm new  btw :D

New or not, that's a pretty decent analysis.  (I'm guessing you're new to the forum but not to the game.)

Offline BeyondChiron

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #143 on: November 21, 2014, 04:39:31 PM »
Welcome to the forum.
BUncle already made the perfect "Beyond Chiron" avatar for you. ;)

oh, awesome. I'll go check them

New or not, that's a pretty decent analysis.  (I'm guessing you're new to the forum but not to the game.)

yeah new to the forum. I love SMAC lore, it's a shame that BEs feels less conected to the game

Offline Mart

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #144 on: December 21, 2014, 02:03:07 AM »
It's like we have 3 ideologies only in civBE and really not much place for new ones.
In SMACX you can create a faction with ideology that you create. In civBE, is there anything like that?
I haven't played the game yet.

Offline Geo

Re: SMAC/X and affinities
« Reply #145 on: December 21, 2014, 10:28:43 AM »
It's like we have 3 ideologies only in civBE and really not much place for new ones.
In SMACX you can create a faction with ideology that you create. In civBE, is there anything like that?
I haven't played the game yet.

I'm not sure, but from what little I've read there seems to be trouble implementing new affinities/ideologies in Beyond Earth.
Faction/Colony wise, its more likely your ideology/affinity is driven by what resources you have in the neighbourhood then other reasons. Its more open then SMACX, where ideology was quite 'hard implemented' by the faction.txt file.

 

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