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Offline MetallEater

Free Drones faction and Riots
« on: August 21, 2014, 03:32:01 PM »
Hi! I played 3 games in SP by Drones and now i have a big question. In Help we can read: "Bases that revolt join the Drones 75% of the time". During all my 3 games any enemy base with riot didn't join to me.  Even when i specifically did riots by my probe commands.  So who  has ever seen joining revolting basses to   him? If yes, which conditions are needed  to get  joining the base?

Offline Yitzi

Re: Free Drones faction and Riots
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2014, 09:21:06 PM »
A base will never revolt when it first riots, but in subsequent turns (if the riots are not dealt with) it can destroy facilities, or, if the owner has a low POLICE score (e.g. running Free Market) and a bunch of other conditions are met, it can join another faction.  This is usually determined by the locations of and relationships with the other factions, but if the Drones are in play, there's a 75% chance that it will join the Drones instead.

This doesn't work properly except in the later versions of my patch, though.

Offline MetallEater

Re: Free Drones faction and Riots
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2014, 01:38:07 PM »
Thanks for answer  Yitzi. Now i play with your latest patch and I still can't join the nearest enemy base even when my probe teams do  riot every turn. I think need to see  formula for calculation  base jumping.  Maybe i can't complete some conditions...

Offline Yitzi

Re: Free Drones faction and Riots
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2014, 03:26:49 PM »
Thanks for answer  Yitzi. Now i play with your latest patch and I still can't join the nearest enemy base even when my probe teams do  riot every turn. I think need to see  formula for calculation  base jumping.  Maybe i can't complete some conditions...

Ok, so here's the formula for continuing riots:

There is only a 1 in POLICE+7 (min 1) chance that drone riots will intensify (so even with Free Market, there is a 1 in 2 chance that nothing happens due to continuing riots.)  In the enemy HQ, or his only base (even without an HQ) riots will also never intensify.  Also, if the base has been conquered within the last 5 turns, or has an equivalent level of incitement (a bit over 5 drones' worth), riots cannot intensify.

If the base's population is 3 or less, there is also a 2 in 3 chance that that will prevent intensification.

If the riots do intensify:

Take the base's population, add 15, and subtract the faction difficulty (0 for citizen, 5 for transcend; unlike most purposes, this uses the faction difficulty rather than game difficulty even for AI players), and relative ranking (7 for the faction in the lead, 1 for the weakest faction).  This is the number of attempts that will be made to destroy a facility.

On each attempt, each facility present has a 1 in 70 chance to be destroyed.  (So if the base has 7 facilities, there is a 1 in 10 chance that a random one will be destroyed).  Facilities due to faction abilities cannot be destroyed.  Once a facility is destroyed, no more attempts are made.

If all facility-destruction attempts fail, then there will be a revolt, provided the following conditions are met:
-The base is not an alien faction.
-The base is not owned by the AI (that's probably the problem you're facing here).
-The base's POLICE rating is low enough for pacifism drones (whether there are pacifism drones or not, but it has to be at most -3.)
-The faction that would get the base is not alien.

(Also, if the base is a conquered base that has not been assimilated, it will automatically revert to its former owner, even if the Drones are in the game.)

Offline MetallEater

Re: Free Drones faction and Riots
« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2014, 03:26:58 AM »
Thank you! I Learned many new. By the way I am disappointed that the developers have made a mistake. They have not made the formula  for a single game. For example in Civ 3 cities can jump to other faction in single game. Will u fix that in future patches?

Offline MetallEater

Re: Free Drones faction and Riots
« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2014, 03:37:09 AM »
And one more question to Yitzi.  Your new window in World Settings: Select Panetary orbit. What exactly does it change?  All that i found its
100 million miles (cool planet)
90 million miles (average planet)
80 million miles (warm planet)

Offline Yitzi

Re: Free Drones faction and Riots
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2014, 04:25:05 AM »
And one more question to Yitzi.  Your new window in World Settings: Select Panetary orbit. What exactly does it change?  All that i found its
100 million miles (cool planet)
90 million miles (average planet)
80 million miles (warm planet)

I didn't design it (it was already there, just disabled), but I believe it affects the relationship between raininess and latitude; I think it works out that a warmer planet will be drier near the equator, whereas a cooler planet will be warmer near the equator.

 

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