Roninscg vs Earthmichael

[Earthmichael]

Take a look at this map.  The center starting positions are 58,24 for the Northern ally, and 42,76 for the Southern ally.

I have tried to give the center positions a good starting positions and a reasonable amount of expansion room without totally changing the veterans map.

Removed a lot of fungus to help expansion, and added some fungus to make it a bit more difficult to get to the Ruins, and to mix it up with the other player.  But even with this, the center players will be able to attack each other MUCH more quickly than either of the other continents. 

I thought about breaking contact with the ruins using water, but I thought I would get your opinion before I make this much of a change.  If we do this, we would simply replace the 4 mineral specials on each side of the Ruins with water.  Then a ship would need to be used, or land raised, to bypass this water square.  This would give a bit more breathing room.  If you don't mind this change (and I would prefer it), then let me know and I will make the edit.

Otherwise, how do you like the rest of the map?

[roninscg]

Take a look at this map.  The center starting positions are 58,24 for the Northern ally, and 42,76 for the Southern ally.

I have tried to give the center positions a good starting positions and a reasonable amount of expansion room without totally changing the veterans map.

Removed a lot of fungus to help expansion, and added some fungus to make it a bit more difficult to get to the Ruins, and to mix it up with the other player.  But even with this, the center players will be able to attack each other MUCH more quickly than either of the other continents. 

I thought about breaking contact with the ruins using water, but I thought I would get your opinion before I make this much of a change.  If we do this, we would simply replace the 4 mineral specials on each side of the Ruins with water.  Then a ship would need to be used, or land raised, to bypass this water square.  This would give a bit more breathing room.  If you don't mind this change (and I would prefer it), then let me know and I will make the edit.

Otherwise, how do you like the rest of the map?

Everything is great, similar I imagined map, and feel free to breaking contact with the ruins using water ( I agree with you)
As for me feel free to remove the Ruins you choose

[Earthmichael]

OK, here is what I consider the final map, with the Ruins separated by water.  If the map meets with your approval, you can decide which order you want for faction selection.

I was rethinking faction selection order also.  I think it should be that one player gets 1, 4, 6, and the other player gets 2, 3, 5.  It just makes sense to me that the player that gets first pick should also get last pick.  And to be fair about it, you get to select which set of 3 picks you want.  So decide if you want 1,4,6 or 2,3,5, and if you picked 1, what is your first faction pick.

[roninscg]

Map is a perfect, i agree to we play that map.
I can not wait to start with the game

I choose 1,4,6, if that is ok for you,you choose side (Uper north or bottom southern).

1.- Uni

[Earthmichael]

That is fine.  No problem there.

For 2 and 3, I choose Free Drones and Morgan.

I will look over the map and decide North or South later.  I don't think it makes much, if any, difference.

[roninscg]

1. Uni
4. Hive

[Earthmichael]

5. Cyber Con

[roninscg]

6. Gaia

[Earthmichael]

So now we just need someone to volunteer to be the moderator to set up this game.

Is there anyone tracking this thread that is willing to set up this game?

Once we have a moderator, we tell the moderator which faction we want on each of our three starting spots, and what turn order that we want.

All of our factions should go successively, and I am willing to grant to the advantage of first move.  So your factions should be 1,2,3 and mine should go 4,5,6.

I don't have a strong preference for North or South.  If you have even a slight preference, let's just go with your preference.

[roninscg]

All of our factions should go successively, and I am willing to grant to the advantage of first move.  So your factions should be 1,2,3 and mine should go 4,5,6.

Ok, Thanks for first move, then i go first (Normally it does not matter, but in this case, due to the extremely strong opponent, i accept)

I don't have a strong preference for North or South.  If you have even a slight preference, let's just go with your preference.

I prefer the north side, habit. Is ok for you to i choose northern side?

[Earthmichael]

South is fine with me.  Everything is good!

We just need a moderator now.

[t_ras]

I guess I'm the only one around. But it might take untill next week, since im busy this week end

[Earthmichael]

Thanks, t_ras!  I wonder what happened to the other moderators?

I would be glad to get moderator lessons so that I can fill in when someone needs a moderator.

For this scenario, we wanted to edit the alphax file to see if we can get rid of rising water in our game.  I think this has to be done when the scenario is created to be effective.

It looks like we should use:

0, ; Sea Level Rises (Magnitude of sea level changes from ice cap melting/freezing)         Used to be 5
0, 1 ; Numerator/Denominator for frequency of global warming (1,2 would be "half" normal warming).   Used to be 1,1

The map file to use has been posted earlier.  We will need to message you with which of our factions start in each location, and the password.

No worries about the weekend, we don't expect you to drop everything and work on this game.  Thanks for offering to moderate!

[t_ras]

You can start with this game
Try this link
CMN academy:
http://www.civgaming.net/smac/acad_scened.shtml
It covers every thing, so if you follow it by the letter you won't miss anything. You may find a problem with Unis bonus tech, it is a tricky one sometimes.

[roninscg]

Thanks, t_ras

To summarize:

Roninscg:                                                                                             Earthmichael:
Northern Alliance (Islands in the north)                                                Southern Alliance (Islands in the south)
1. The University of Planet                                                                    1. Morgan Industries
2. Gaia's Stepdaughters                                                                       2. The Cybernetic Consciousness
3. The Human Hive                                                                               3. The Free Drones

We play with scient patch and with modified alphax files that stop rising water.
Map: Veterans 6 Player Balanced (Map submitted as attachment below)
No attrocities allowed.
No copters allowed
Starting Colony pods: 4
Starting Scout Patrols (1-1-1): 8
Starting Formers: 4
One scout patrol is swapped for one special unit if the faction picked starts with a special unit, i.e. rover for Spartan, worm for Cult, etc.


and everything else as before:

Setup	Preferences	Roninscg	Earthmichael
Scient patch	Game: SMAX & patches	Scient patch	Scient patch
confirmed	Factions** (turn order)	confirmed (1,2,3)	confirmed (4,5,6)
Veterans 6 Player Balanced	Map	Veterans 6 Player Balanced	Veterans 6 Player Balanced
custom	Size	custom	custom
custom	Ocean coverage	custom	custom
custom	Erosive forces	custom	custom
custom	Native life forms	custom	custom
custom	Cloud cover	custom	custom
Off	Unity pods	Off	Off
Transcend	Difficulty level	-	-

Setup	Preferences	Roninscg	Earthmichael
On	Allow Victory by Transcendence	On	On
On	Allow Victory by Conquest	On	On
Off	Allow Diplomatic Victory	Off	Off
On	Allow Economic Victory	On	On
On	Allow Cooperative Victory	On	On
On	Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players	On	On
On	Look first: Flexible starting locations	On	On
Off	Tech stagnation: slower rate of research discoveries	Off	either
Off	Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base	Off	Off
Off	Blind research: cannot set precise research goals	Off	Off
N/A	Intense Rivalry: Opponents more aggressiv	N/A	N/A
On	No Unity Survey: World Map not visible	On	On
N/A	No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites	N/A	N/A
On	Bell Curve: No Random Events	On	On
custom	Time Warp: Accelerated Start*(on/off/custom)	custom	custom
4	Colony pods at start	4	4
8	Scout Patrols (1-1-1)	8	8
4	Starting Formers)	4	4
ON	Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit	-	-
N/A	Randomize faction leader personalities	N/A	N/A
N/A	Randomize faction leader social agendas	N/A	N/A
min.1-2/day	Expected turn rate (usually 24h)	few/day	1-2/day
N/A	Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'	N/A	N/A

*Note: some factions (if selected by the players) will start with special units (besides/instead of the scout patrol)
**Note: teamed factions are in contact from the beginning (they have each other's commlink).

@ T_ras
We will send message to you with which of our factions start in each location, and the password.
 Thanks