Cornering Global Energy Market – a few interesting things

[kyrub]

Nice info and work! I had no idea about this and I learned from it a few things. Congrats to all involved, esp. Yitzi.

Being a bit late to the party, I'll throw in my 2 cents:
- drone riots decrease the price by 50%
- golden age 200%
- if it used to be your base, it's 50%
- punishment sphere at the base, 50%
- children creche at the base, 50% (??)
- genejack factory at the base, 200% (??)

The last two factors seem mismatched. The genejack factory creates drones, so I would expect it to be lowing factor. Creche, the contrary, improving morale... Very strange.

[Yitzi]

I think all of those are part of the mind control cost formula.

[ete]

Where is the mind control formula? That'd be good to have on the wiki too.

[kyrub]

@Yitzi
Sure, you are right, it's part of MC price. Sorry for intrusion - I was excited by your discovery.



Genejack factory <--> Creche bonuses.
According to the datalinks:

#; Genejack Factory
...
and increases vulnerability to enemy mind control.

#; Children's Creche
...^
Reduces base's vulnerability to enemy mind control.

Crazy. Another Children creches issue.

[Yitzi]

@Yitzi
Sure, you are right, it's part of MC price. Sorry for intrusion - I was excited by your discovery.



Genejack factory <--> Creche bonuses.
According to the datalinks:

#; Genejack Factory
...
and increases vulnerability to enemy mind control.

#; Children's Creche
...^
Reduces base's vulnerability to enemy mind control.

Crazy. Another Children creches issue.

No, that's not an issue; it's part of the proper facility benefit.

[kyrub]

It's a bug. Creches make it easier to control a base, Genejack factory makes it harder.

- children creche at the base, 50% (??)
- genejack factory at the base, 200% (??)

[Yitzi]

Ah, I misunderstood.  I'll look into it.

[Yitzi]

Ok, I've looked into it and I have to say that it seems to work right for me: Genejack factories make it easier, creches make it harder, for both cornering and mind control.

[Kilkakon]

I've won an Economic Victory in LE with 1000 gold before. And one for 220K. Catching it before it skyrockets is the trick. :|

And there's no Orbital Power Transmitters or anything like that in my game...

[Yitzi]

I've won an Economic Victory in LE with 1000 gold before. And one for 220K. Catching it before it skyrockets is the trick. :|

And there's no Orbital Power Transmitters or anything like that in my game...

Actually, LE is interesting in terms of economic victories; the most important feature is COMMERCE, and LE has a lot fewer COMMERCE bonuses as compared to Alpha Centauri, so there's going to be somewhat less variation.

[Kirov]

Where is the mind control formula? That'd be good to have on the wiki too.

Yitzi also found it and published here:

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2761.msg14617#msg14617

But I can say for sure that it is subject to further testing. In certain cases it only approximates the price, I don't know why.

@ kyrub: I'm positive that the CC bonus and GF penalty work properly, at least for MC.

[kyrub]

Ok, I've looked into it and I have to say that it seems to work right for me: Genejack factories make it easier, creches make it harder, for both cornering and mind control.

Ah, my mistake. I overlooked the fact that the distance (denominator) is halved, no the result.
My apologies, guys.

Anyway, back on topic:
In one of my test "spectator" games, I had Yang trying to win economically. But: I got announces about him starting the path to Cornering the global market every turn (and the victory was postponed by a year). It was annoying and it seemed odd. Also, the win never materialised, he won 50 later on Transcendence. Anyone saw something similar?