Challenge Earthmichael vs t_ras

[t_ras]

and back

[t_ras]

have you recieved it?

[Earthmichael]

I got confused.  I got the game, and I see that I must have gotten interrupted and needed to save.  And I forgot to pick up from the save.  I will play it now.

[Earthmichael]

I remember now.  It kept crashing on me.  And is still doing so.  I will do my best to complete the turn, though I have no idea how many reload warnings you will see.

[Earthmichael]

I have determined what is causing the crashes.  During the Free Drones turn, if I move my cursor onto squares (65,5) or (66,4) in any way, whether directly clicking, or moving by arrow keys, the game crashes.

I loaded turn 2166, and this does not happen.

The main thing that happened in between is that we have a water rising event triggered on turn 2167.

Does anyone know how to debug this?  Is there any way to edit the save so that this does not happen?  Will replaying from 2166 do any good, or is the bug likely to happen anyway?

[t_ras]

This bug happens every now and then. As far as I remeber, there's nothing to do. I hope this fixed it self next turn.

[t_ras]

Resent just in case, though knowinf this but I dont think it will help...

[Earthmichael]

Thanks for the resend, but after thinking about this a bit, I would like to try to replay from 2166, and see if the bug still occurs (unless someone chimes in that they know how to fix this.)

If it does still occur, we will just press on anyway.

I will do the replay of 2166 in the next couple of hours, so you can look for it then.

I hate this happened to our game; I have only seen this bug one other time, and it was a pain in the rear the rest of the game.

[Earthmichael]

OK, I am stilling working on trying to figure this out.  Here is what I know:

1. If on turn 2166, I do NOTHING as Aki, just end turn, then the bug does not show up on the Drones.

2. If on turn 2166, I play Aki with what I would normally do, the bug does show up on the Drones.

I am now trying to figure out what action I am taking as Aki that triggers the bug on the Drones.  This could take awhile.  Sorry.  And it is now 10:30 my time, so time to go to bed for now.  I will work on this more tomorrow.

Also, expect a LOT of reloads, as I try different things to see if I can figure out what triggers the bug.

[Earthmichael]

I figured out that saving and loading as the Drones also triggers the bug.  If I end turn as Aki, log in as Drones, and check, the squares are not bugged.  But if I save and load, and check, the squares are now bugged.  So somehow the save and reload process triggers the bug!

So a lot of the experimentation, where I thought I was verifying things were safe, was not actually doing that at all.  I have to go through a Drone save and reload step each time to see if the bug is there or not.

I am too bummed to try any more tonight.  I will take another look at it tomorrow.

I wonder if there is some kind of save file editor I could run the save file through that might potentially clean up the bug?

[Earthmichael]

I had one last idea to try, and it seems to have worked!

I noticed the two crashing squares were both solar collectors adjacent to the same Echelon Mirror.  I destroyed my Echelon Mirror, and it seems to have eliminated the bug! 

Has anyone else noticed an Echelon Mirror crashing their game?  I know I have used them successfully many, many times, so there must be something special about this placement that triggers the crash.

In fact, I have had this Escelon Mirror for at least 20 turns, so I have no idea why it now decided to crash.  But at least I have (hopefully) found the source of the crash and can continue.

[Earthmichael]

 

[t_ras]

We could just replay 66 with out any one of as doing anything, this way we could save your echlon mirror.

[t_ras]

sent 67 just in case

[Earthmichael]

The mirror is doomed.  I figured out that doing nothing just delays the inevitable.  As soon as I do anything, the bug is waiting to crash me.

If you do not mind the experimentation time, at some later turn, I could try to rebuild the mirror and see if it still crashes me.  But lets play a few turns first.