New Game?

[Armageddon]

I'll say OK to abundant life form since it was already decided,..

actually only you had the power to change that vote 

.., but beware that in another game I had we had to restart the game becuse two factions were eliminated by worms...

I also see the danger that the worms (or the luck if you want to put it that way) will have to much influence on the early game if native are abundant. I do not know why average shouldn't be the best.
So, t_ras, if you think it would be better then just put in the table. If not I will have to think about the faction choice, because I am absolutely unexperienced in wormrapes.
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[sisko]

I also see the danger that the worms (or the luck if you want to put it that way) will have to much influence on the early game if native are abundant. I do not know why average shouldn't be the best.
So, t_ras, if you think it would be better then just put in the table. If not I will have to think about the faction choice, because I am absolutely unexperienced in wormrapes.

let me remind you that mindworms attack with a -50% penalty in the first years after planetfall.

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[Rymdolov]

Sorry about being late, but can I join? It would be my first PBEM game, so if you are ok with me spending the initial period asking newbie questions about technical issues, I'd like to join. Taking up my SMACing would be nice. 

[Armageddon]

Too be honest, I would limit a PBEM to 4 players, otherwise it would get too slow and the danger of getting lost is too high.
But I would be in to start another PBEM with 3 players, if somebody else would join as well.
What do the others think?

[funbot]

Too be honest, I would limit a PBEM to 4 players, otherwise it would get too slow and the danger of getting lost is too high.
But I would be in to start another PBEM with 3 players, if somebody else would join as well.
What do the others think?

I'd say "Hell why not! Join the party!". It's obvious to me anyway that this game is going to take years anyway, and tbh finishing the game isnt what im i expecting here anyway (even though when it comes to me, i will update my turns daily basis no matter what, hand on my hearth), but a one helluva ride to trying to get there, if you know what i mean . It isnt about the destination, its about the journey to get there.

And obviously, more peeps more fun

[funbot]

Sorry about being late, but can I join? It would be my first PBEM game, so if you are ok with me spending the initial period asking newbie questions about technical issues, I'd like to join.

Its pretty simple rly and isnt rly that diffrent compared to normal tcp/ip, you just post your savefile to persons email whos turn is going to be after your turn (unless theres diffrent place to dump your savefile within these forums, but princible is the same). And ofc its a LOT slower than regular Smac multiplay, but i like that way. I feel every turn is much more intense and you can have a lot more time to figure your next turn .

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So yeh, while we are waiting to see what other guys think about you joining in, could you start right away to work on your rules table so we can see your votes on the custom rules and landscape? Faster you do this, faster we can start the game

[funbot]

Btw guys, were there any additional rules on these games beside custom rules? I saw from other post that some like to play without tech trading? Is that rule also affecting our game? (I'd vote no for that).

And is there a list of "common" rules for game, like not using workshop upragede to turn your missile needljets to nervegaspod plasmashard needlejet and attack on the same turn?

Aaaaand what about all the events and news on the game (like secret project announce), will there be a shared billboard to share those news? Though with bell curve it aint That big of issue anyway i gues.

And do we have a specific place for backstab-diplomacy, or do we just use our emails to contact each other? And How Do we really share those savefiles?

[Rymdolov]

And is there a list of "common" rules for game, like not using workshop upragede to turn your missile needljets to nervegaspod plasmashard needlejet and attack on the same turn?

I think that these are covered in this thread.

[Rymdolov]

If not everyone is comfortable with 4+ players it's ok for me to pass this one. No big deal. I'd be up for a different game, though. Perhaps it would be more fun for some of you to have two games going at once? Another good thing is that we could have different rules for the games, to satisfy everyone's wishes. I like small maps, for example, and there is also the pod controversy. 

[funbot]

And is there a list of "common" rules for game, like not using workshop upragede to turn your missile needljets to nervegaspod plasmashard needlejet and attack on the same turn?

I think that these are covered in this thread.

Thanks, i knew they were somwhere here but i just needed 100% confirmation that they apply

[funbot]

If not everyone is comfortable with 4+ players it's ok for me to pass this one. No big deal. I'd be up for a different game, though. Perhaps it would be more fun for some of you to have two games going at once? Another good thing is that we could have different rules for the games, to satisfy everyone's wishes. I like small maps, for example, and there is also the pod controversy. 

Well, im gonna pass the extra game, atm i'm playing with my friend too 1vs1, so having 3 games at once might be bit too much for my head

[Rymdolov]

could you start right away to work on your rules table so we can see your votes on the custom rules and landscape?

Ok, here it is, though I don't want to spoil anyone's game by joining against their will at this late stage.

Setup	Preferences	Bodissey	AI	Rymdolov	AI	t_ras	funbot	Armageddon
-	Factions	Gaians	Hive	University	Morganites	Spartans	Believers	Peacekeepers
SMAC	Game: SMAC/SMAX & patches	v5.0(XP patch)+unofficial patch(Scient)
random	Map: Random or not	random		random		prefer not ramdom	random
Large	Size	Medium/Large		Medium		Large	Medium	Large
average	Ocean coverage	average		average			average	average
average	Erosive forces	average		average			average	average
abundant	Native life forms	abundant		average			abundant	average
average	Cloud cover	average		average			minimal	average
on	Unity pods: on/off	on		on		on!!!	on	off
Transcend	Difficulty level	Transcend		Transcend		Transcend	Transcend	Transcend
on	Allow Victory by Transcendence	on		on		on	on	on
on	Allow Victory by Conquest	on		on		on	on	on
on	Allow Diplomatic Victory	on		on		on	on	on
on	Allow Economic Victory	on		on		on	on	on
on	Allow Cooperative Victory	on		on		on	on	on
on	Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
on	Look first: Flexible starting locations	on		on		on	on	on
off	Tech stagnation: slower rate of research discoveries	on		off		off	on	off
off	Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base	off		off		on	off	off
off	Blind research: cannot set precise research goals	off		on		off	off	off
off	Intense Rivalry: Opponents more aggressiv	off		off		off	off	off
on	No Unity Survey: World Map not visible	on		on		on	on	on
off	No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites	off		off		off	off	off
on	Bell Curve: No Random Events	off		on		on	off	on
off	Time Warp: Accelerated Start (on/off/custom*)	off		off		off	off	off
on	Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
off	Randomize faction leader personalities	off		off		off	off	off
off	Randomize faction leader social agendas	off		off		off	off	off
24h	Expected turn rate (usually 24h)	24h		24h		24h	24h	24h
6	Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'**	7		3		7	3	7

[Armageddon]

5 players would be ok as well to start off the game.
But especially if you want to learn PBEM it would be good to have a game where you get into the game and it will not take one week or more since you play your next turn. I just started PBEM some months ago, and the first three game went slower and slower and stopped in the end.  :'(  The one still running now with three other reliable players started off with one turn per day, but now where it takes longer for a turn it's about 1 turn a week. So, fewer players mean faster play means you more get in to the game. That's why I suggested another game with 3 players.
So, as still for me with two games running, often there a days on which I don't play a single turn, so I would be in for another game. And I think with different rules would be a nice idea, I am keen to learn more about PBEMS and the best way is to play them. 
So, if Rymdolov and someone else would like to join, I still would suppose a second game starting. Of course, I would take different factions, and other rules would be no problem.

[Rymdolov]

Everything you say sounds reasonable. There's a thread for the other game right here.

[Armageddon]

So we can start this one ??!!??