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[Armageddon]

Armageddon

Faction:   Peacekeeper
SMAC   Game: SMAC/SMAX & patches   v5.0(XP patch)+unofficial patch(Scient)
Map: random            
Size:   Large
average   Ocean coverage                     
average   Erosive forces                     
average   Native life forms                     
average   Cloud cover                     
Unity pods: off!!   

Difficulty level:   Transcend            
Allow Victory by Transcendence         y            
Allow Victory by Conquest            y         
Allow Diplomatic Victory               y      
Allow Economic Victory               y      
Allow Cooperative Victory            y         
Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players   y
Look first: Flexible starting locations      y               
Tech stagnation:                                           off
Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base      off               
Blind research: cannot set precise research goals                     off
Intense Rivalry:     off
No Unity Survey: World Map not visible                     
No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites                     off
Bell Curve: No Random Events                     on
ON   Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit   on
   Randomize faction leader personalities                     off
   Randomize faction leader social agendas                  off   
   Expected turn rate (usually 24h)                     24 h
   Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'                7      
AI: Yes, not boosted ( but boosted would be ok too)

@Sisko: I would prefer a fair scenario built by you, I would give you all the time you need.

I don't knwo about the ladder (it's the ranking?), but I wouldn't mind to play for ladder.

[sisko]

the updated setup is in the first column of the table.

Setup	Preferences	Bodissey	AI	AI	AI	t_ras	funbot	Armageddon
-	Factions	Gaians	Hive	University	Morganites	Spartans	Believers	Peacekeepers
SMAC	Game: SMAC/SMAX & patches	v5.0(XP patch)+unofficial patch(Scient)
random	Map: Random or not	random				prefer not ramdom	random
Medium	Size	Medium/Large				Large	Medium	Medium/Large
average	Ocean coverage
average	Erosive forces
average	Native life forms
average	Cloud cover
on	Unity pods: on/off	on				on!!!	off
Transcend	Difficulty level	Transcend				Transcend	Transcend	Transcend
	Allow Victory by Transcendence							on
	Allow Victory by Conquest							on
	Allow Diplomatic Victory							on
	Allow Economic Victory							on
	Allow Cooperative Victory							on
On	Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Look first: Flexible starting locations							on
	Tech stagnation: slower rate of research discoveries							off
	Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base							off
	Blind research: cannot set precise research goals							off
	Intense Rivalry: Opponents more aggressiv							off
	No Unity Survey: World Map not visible							on
	No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites							off
	Bell Curve: No Random Events							on
	Time Warp: Accelerated Start (on/off/custom*)
ON	Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Randomize faction leader personalities							off
	Randomize faction leader social agendas							off
	Expected turn rate (usually 24h)							24h
	Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'**							7

*custom accelerated start means that i can give you more units at the start of the game (e.g.: 3 colony pods, 3 scouts and 1 former)
**the turn will be 'pushed' only in case of non-responsive player (vacations and out-of-town periods excluded only if properly announced in the game thread)

I don't knwo about the ladder (it's the ranking?), but I wouldn't mind to play for ladder.

the result will be entered into the ladder system

[Armageddon]

Thx for the quick reply.

Just some things:

Map Size: With 4 players I absolutely want large!
Unity Pods: Off! please
Acc Start: off

Thanx!
Arma

[sisko]

the updated setup is in the first column of the table.

Setup	Preferences	Bodissey	AI	AI	AI	t_ras	funbot	Armageddon
-	Factions	Gaians	Hive	University	Morganites	Spartans	Believers	Peacekeepers
SMAC	Game: SMAC/SMAX & patches	v5.0(XP patch)+unofficial patch(Scient)
random	Map: Random or not	random				prefer not ramdom	random
Large	Size	Medium/Large				Large	Medium	Large
average	Ocean coverage
average	Erosive forces
average	Native life forms
average	Cloud cover
	Unity pods: on/off	on				on!!!	off	off
Transcend	Difficulty level	Transcend				Transcend	Transcend	Transcend
	Allow Victory by Transcendence							on
	Allow Victory by Conquest							on
	Allow Diplomatic Victory							on
	Allow Economic Victory							on
	Allow Cooperative Victory							on
On	Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Look first: Flexible starting locations							on
	Tech stagnation: slower rate of research discoveries							off
	Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base							off
	Blind research: cannot set precise research goals							off
	Intense Rivalry: Opponents more aggressiv							off
	No Unity Survey: World Map not visible							on
	No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites							off
	Bell Curve: No Random Events							on
	Time Warp: Accelerated Start (on/off/custom*)							off
ON	Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Randomize faction leader personalities							off
	Randomize faction leader social agendas							off
	Expected turn rate (usually 24h)							24h
	Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'**							7

*custom accelerated start means that i can give you more units at the start of the game (e.g.: 3 colony pods, 3 scouts and 1 former)
**the turn will be 'pushed' only in case of non-responsive player (vacations and out-of-town periods excluded only if properly announced in the game thread)

Map Size: With 4 players I absolutely want large!

just a thought: large map usually means lots of bases to micromanage by MY2200. i think you will have enough space to expand on a standard size map even with 3 AIs present.

Unity Pods: Off! please

we have a tie here. 2 votes for pods and 2 against. i think a reasonable compromise will be a fixed number of pods around each starting position, let's say 10.. what do you say?

[Armageddon]

Unity Pods: Off! please

we have a tie here. 2 votes for pods and 2 against. i think a reasonable compromise will be a fixed number of pods around each starting position, let's say 10.. what do you say?

5 and I agree! 
Ok, I think sisko's idea is a good compromise, though I would think about 5-8 pods would enough. They can make such a difference in early game, this would be too strong.

[funbot]

Well, i rather feel that pods are better being scattered acros the world than all placed next to starting place. Soo thats why i gues i change my vote to to Yes for random Supply pods 

[t_ras]

Setup	Preferences	Bodissey	AI	AI	AI	t_ras	funbot	Armageddon
-	Factions	Gaians	Hive	University	Morganites	Spartans	Believers	Peacekeepers
SMAC	Game: SMAC/SMAX & patches	v5.0(XP patch)+unofficial patch(Scient)
random	Map: Random or not	random				prefer not ramdom	random
Large	Size	Medium/Large				Large	Medium	Large
average	Ocean coverage
average	Erosive forces
average	Native life forms
average	Cloud cover
	Unity pods: on/off	on				on!!!	off	off
Transcend	Difficulty level	Transcend				Transcend	Transcend	Transcend
	Allow Victory by Transcendence					on		on
	Allow Victory by Conquest					on		on
	Allow Diplomatic Victory					on		on
	Allow Economic Victory					on		on
	Allow Cooperative Victory					on		on
On	Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Look first: Flexible starting locations					on		on
	Tech stagnation: slower rate of research discoveries					off		off
	Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base					on		off
	Blind research: cannot set precise research goals					off		off
	Intense Rivalry: Opponents more aggressiv					off		off
	No Unity Survey: World Map not visible					on		on
	No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites					off		off
	Bell Curve: No Random Events					on		on
	Time Warp: Accelerated Start (on/off/custom*)					off		off
ON	Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Randomize faction leader personalities					off		off
	Randomize faction leader social agendas					off		off
	Expected turn rate (usually 24h)					24h		24h
	Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'**					7		7

spoils of war is part of the strategy in the game, if I take sparta, I do it not for reaserch oviusly.
It gives too much advantage to the other factions.

[funbot]

spoils of war is part of the strategy in the game, if I take sparta, I do it not for reaserch oviusly.
It gives too much advantage to the other factions.

Rly now? Believers having too much advance on research? Lawl

[t_ras]

O thers may have. I think I will have to switch faction if we don't allow spoils of war.

[funbot]

O thers may have. I think I will have to switch faction if we don't allow spoils of war.

Do as you want, but in faction wise spartans dont have any significant penalties on research compared to peacekeepers or gaians. Its prob just your mindset saying that spartans can only play as conqueror type, which isnt the case. They can also be builders if its suit em better situtaion wise, and have good perks to do that too if you know what you are doing.

And even so, playing as conqueror is still very do able even without spoils of war. For that, im just gonna leave a free protip here: Probeteams.

[t_ras]

And even so, playing as conqueror is still very do able even without spoils of war. For that, im just gonna leave a free protip here: Probeteams.

I would never use those on other players...

[funbot]

And even so, playing as conqueror is still very do able even without spoils of war. For that, im just gonna leave a free protip here: Probeteams.

I would never use those on other players...

Lmao ah right, of course, my bad 

[funbot]

Updated table:

Setup	Preferences	Bodissey	AI	AI	AI	t_ras	funbot	Armageddon
-	Factions	Gaians	Hive	University	Morganites	Spartans	Believers	Peacekeepers
SMAC	Game: SMAC/SMAX & patches	v5.0(XP patch)+unofficial patch(Scient)
random	Map: Random or not	random				prefer not ramdom	random
Large	Size	Medium/Large				Large	Medium	Large
average	Ocean coverage						random
average	Erosive forces						random
average	Native life forms						random
average	Cloud cover						random
	Unity pods: on/off	on				on!!!	on	off
Transcend	Difficulty level	Transcend				Transcend	Transcend	Transcend
	Allow Victory by Transcendence					on	on	on
	Allow Victory by Conquest					on	on	on
	Allow Diplomatic Victory					on	on	on
	Allow Economic Victory					on	on	on
	Allow Cooperative Victory					on	on	on
On	Do or Die: Don't restart eliminated players	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Look first: Flexible starting locations					on	on	on
	Tech stagnation: slower rate of research discoveries					off	on	off
	Spoils of war: Steal tech when conquer base					on	off	off
	Blind research: cannot set precise research goals					off	off	off
	Intense Rivalry: Opponents more aggressiv					off	off	off
	No Unity Survey: World Map not visible					on	on	on
	No Unity Scattering: Supply Pods only at landing sites					off	off	off
	Bell Curve: No Random Events					on	off	on
	Time Warp: Accelerated Start (on/off/custom*)					off	off	off
ON	Iron Man: Save/Restore restricted to exit	-	-	-	-	-	-	-
	Randomize faction leader personalities					off	off	off
	Randomize faction leader social agendas					off	off	off
	Expected turn rate (usually 24h)					24h	24h	24h
	Number of days to wait before turn is 'pushed'**					7	3	7

[sisko]

ok. it looks like the pods will be scattered all over the map.
we'll wait to see if Bodissey has something to add to the preferences..

[funbot]

This isnt a big deal to me, but is it on ladder rules to have average settings on random maps factors (ocean erosion etc.)?