Some stuff.

[NewAgeOfPower]

Yep. I knew about the pops and rebuilding facilities, but I'm trying to create a scenario where you (or your enemy) starts with a monster base- one that can crank out almost anything in a turn. Besides, I can't seem to keep up raising clean mineral limit fast enough, by my 4th borehole there is nothing I can do to keep minerals clean while raising production... maybe if I ICSd 50 bases and had them continuously rebuild/salvage Preserves and Temples...

I have multiple scenario ideals, one of which I'm almost done with.

Yes. #1 was to see how fast I could jack up the sea level- if it could ever outpace a few stacks of super formers; i.e. an practical limit on mineral production. The second was because, screw reasonable, I want my max armor + weapon fleet of gravships... which I got, by producing 1/1 gravships en masse and using upgrade (nanofactory makes the cost 670ish)

But no. Even at 350 mins a turn it takes 4-5 turns to crank out one of these deadly gravships. In SMAX, unofficial patch, at least.

[Kilkakon]

What about a high planet rating?

[Buster's Uncle]

Could you play through 100 turns or so to raise the min limit and let the user start the scenario there?

[Buster's Uncle]

It seems like a lot of people turn out to have seen the page when I meet them -- I need to add a link back to here.

Done.

[NewAgeOfPower]

Quick question- I won't have time to test this for about a week, but does Voice of Planet or Ascent to Transcendence stop spawns? Pops? I do recall once the game ended I stopped having eco-damage...

I can just disable Ascent victories and then manually edit the secret project into a base.

[Davyboy]

Since It's a mid/late game - say 100 turns to run - once VoP is built you'll still get pops, but no NNL.

Ascent determines the game scores - no further additions to scores are entered.
VoP just suppresses 'Blooms'. Hurry costs are doubled too.

[Buster's Uncle]

You still get the blooms, but without the worms.

[Davyboy]

My bad.
That's what I meant but it just came out wrong.
Fungus grows -- no more lifeforms, check...

[NewAgeOfPower]

I see. Does the Ascent to Transcendence have any side effects?

[Buster's Uncle]

Everybody attacks you.  Also, you might sorta accidentally win.

[Davyboy]

Everybody attacks you.  Also, you might sorta accidentally win.

LOL

A few bases might default to stockpiling energy since you've built everything - the base that built ATT might try to build it again (just to make sure) but it's GO man, like G O ...

[NewAgeOfPower]

I mean, I can disable Ascent Victory in scenario, and then edit a base to have the monument.

Also, I distinctly remember the first time I played SMAC (half a decade ago), I Ascended as the Evil Professor Zak, and clicked the One More Turn option (Lemme play a few more turns) and there was absolutely no eco-destruction or anything going on... and I think in SMAC, unpatched, doubling your minerals through space elevator also doubled eco-damage...

I'll be free this weekend, I think. If none of you get around to testing this, I'll have to do it.

[Kilkakon]

Any findings?

[NewAgeOfPower]

Ah. I made many changes a week ago, and tested them out...

What I did:

Change sea level rising in the alphatxt to 1/10th (along with other changes)
No Native Life
VOP, but Ascent disabled.

I then stationed a unit on every square in base radius, and jacked its production to 470++ a turn (without using space elevator)

Results? Fungal pops still happen. No native life, and no Warning Message though. No sea level rise.

Fungal pops no longer occur at the base where every square has a unit sitting on it, thank god... The first time I had a fungal tower appear UNDER my unit was incredibly annoying. The land and improvements stay intact, and fungus free.

EDIT: I'm mostly working on the Demarchists right now. Can't think of a good Faction Leader picture, and I'm having merry hell trying to squeeze in 9 faction specialties with them.

[Buster's Uncle]

I've got a file of about 80 leaderhead candidates posted in Downloads.  None are quite ready to drop in as-is, but some are close.  Might be worth a look.