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« Reply #105 on: March 20, 2020, 03:24:53 PM »
Basically posting doubting anyone here will care/have kept up with the comics, but wanting to throw it out in public in case I'm proved right later...

The current X-Men relaunch of the last eight months or so?  From people like Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister having seats on the high council with the good guys and it lasted a whole day, on down to Wolverine having a room adjoining Marvel Girl's -Jean's currently alive and sporting the old green miniskirt look- opposite Cyclops and they don't wake everyone in the house up at night trying to kill each other --- Something's Got To Be Going On.

I think it's probably Professor X and his always-on cerebro helmet mind-controlling all the telepaths to mind-control all the rest of the mutants just enough to get them going along with the entire, vast, pile of improbable goings-along.

Further, I think it's really Moira McTaggert, having somehow taken over Xavier's mind in his latest resurrection.  Desperate times call for desperate measures, and this probably ain't as bad as the timeline she spent trying working with Apocalypse...


-If I've piqued anyone's curiosity, I could supply links to the background reading to make sense of what I just said...

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« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2020, 06:53:02 PM »
Given the current climate, I may need some reading material sooner rather than later.   

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« Reply #107 on: March 20, 2020, 06:56:20 PM »
I'll get those links for you in just a bit.  I'll be interested in your reaction.

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« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2020, 08:27:48 PM »
As E_T said when I discovered this site, have you antivirus stuff up to date.  It's a sketchy site with many intrusive ads.  It's also carrying a lot of comic material in a readable format.

https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/House-of-X-Powers-of-X/TPB-Part-1?id=165194

The stuff about Moira will blow your mind - all of it will, but it's very good, taken in isolation...

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« Reply #109 on: March 23, 2020, 02:03:25 AM »
...I reread that double miniseries since, and the thing with Mystique wanting Destiny back is going to blow up ugly, and probably soon...

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« Reply #110 on: January 13, 2021, 01:01:17 AM »
I finally just caught up with Wednesday's comics -it's been a distracting week- and I just scrolled past quite a pile of tie-ins for the King In Black event.  Hey Marvel; what could I pay you to drop Venom, symbiotes, and anything derivative of that, forever and ever?  Same question for mass-murderer and fascist icon The Punisher.

WAY more serious about that latter - it's time and decades past time to Do The Right Thing.

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« Reply #111 on: January 27, 2021, 02:12:58 AM »
I finally read Planet Hulk and World War Hulk, over dunno; summer.  I think Thor: Ragnarok wasn't even a worthy nod to any of that.  Not that I loved those stories all that much, but they weren't about arena fighting.  Planet Hulk had gladiatorial combat, is all - most of the fighting was apocalyptic and all over Sakkar.  Thumbs down to that aspect of the movie, and it sucked the air/time out of the parts that worked better and the movie was actually about.

It's the Revenge of the Jedi problem; a third of the movie, the least quality third of a bad movie, was peed away on Tatooine and belching monsters for the kiddies.  Five-ten minutes to grab-and-thaw Han, for far better, then off to Endor and the Ewoks for the kiddies, and more oxygen to the Death Star II stuff the whole movie was about and maybe a director w/ any talent telling Hamil how to read the lines.  He was dire in that.  "I'm here, father." Ugh.  Turd writing unpolished in the acting.  Fight me.

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« Reply #112 on: January 27, 2021, 04:08:19 AM »
I honestly think ragnarok was trying to build a hulk storyline that got pissed away in the avengers films.  It’s not a nod to planet hulk as that’s way too ludicrous for the mcu.  But Hulk starts to doubt himself there and banner/hulk are beginning to lose control. (Hulk doubt is not a part of the comic)

This is reinforced at the beginning of infinity war with hulk getting his ass kicked and then refusing to even come out. 

But this whole setup is completely hand waived in end game


RTJ, what do you cut on Tattooine?   You need Leia in bounty hunter kicking ass, and frankly her murdering the slug as well.  You need Luke showing his mastery of the force and mechanical hand.

You can argue about the droid scene, but as it’s the setup to smuggle the lightsaber in so im not even sure it can be scrapped. 




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« Reply #113 on: January 27, 2021, 04:29:13 AM »
[poop].  RotJ probably had to do something with the Fett, all that part actually accomplished besides fishing Han out of the carbonite.  It was a side adventure.  How about making the actual story moar awesome with the extra time?  How about making it not suck at least?

I cut the entire sequence, and put in something five minutes long that fishes out Han so he can go play w/ teddies on Endor.  Maybe they just buy him back from Bobba in some random-butt SW dump.  It needs nothing else, and some of the 'cool' moments could somehow be sneaked into the less-suck actual plot part...


Okay, okay.  I did just throw away Slave Leia, and that's not okay.  How do we Slave Leia on Endor at a teddy bear picnic?

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« Reply #114 on: January 27, 2021, 11:50:50 PM »
Ah.



Revenge of the Jedi opening; there's yellow words scrolling up/back/away over a starfield, music by J. Williams.  Probably identical to original.


-Fade in-

Luke, Lando and Chewbacca are in some sort of ferocious battle in a cramped service corridor -two or three minute action scene- Luke does something WAY cool w/ Force, wining, pauses a second looking into the air, and shouts "Han's THIS way!"  They run.

-cut to-

Leia, Slave Leia, lying all hot on her side on the edge of the stage in a dive -a Twilek dancing behind, alien band, dirt, rust- in a random-buttocks space station facing Bobba Fett seated at barside - in an inversion of the obvious strip-club set-up, SHE's handing HIM credits, saying "So we've got a deal?"

-cut to-

Leia, still Slave, Luke Lando and Chewie (quite disheveled from fight) are in a big hangar deck rolling CarboHan furiously up the ramp of the Falcon.  Chewie snarls, Lando shouts at Leia "You could have TOLD us what you were really doing!"  (The Fett may be in the background boarding Slave1 or Jetpack flying or something.  Like I a give a darn about Fett.  Something, maybe - try to make it something kewl.)

-cut to-

Cockpit.  Not sure who's piloting, but a tired-looking and slightly damp Han comes in behind the others, maybe with Leia, who may be wearing clothes now, he saying, all Han-disgusted, "Who let YOU fly my ship?"

-fade-

-Off to the Teddybear picnic or Rebel Endor mission setup - I forget the original transition.



Runtime, 5 minutes, most of it the fast-paced way-cool opening battle.  Possibly more business in the bar scene to protract the Slave Leia and Fett for the Fett-heads.  Runtime 6, then.

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Oh, I love how Fett-heads rolls off the tongue.  Didn't intend that.

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« Reply #115 on: January 28, 2021, 04:06:06 AM »
-And MY way leaves Fett uneaten, if you're sad enough to care.

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« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2021, 07:59:45 PM »
-And PLEASE, not. a. second. of the time freed up added to screen-time for teddy bears.

The heart of the movie still needs a complete overhaul, and why not put all that largess of extra time into --- as long as I'm being imaginary, better Hamil performance/Luke writing, and maybe more detail/subplots to his surrender and captivity would take the sting out of the Big Bad being a constipated 80 year-old man with a bad complexation.  I never felt the danger; I was surprised Vader even noticed the lightning -spoiler alert- and the Vader Redemption was tres' [poopy].

He still had the blood of Alderan and many empire officers casually murdered on his hands, and many Jedi (and what-not more people, clearly) murdered off-stage  -and the younglings, for that matter, we know now- it was unearned, that redemption, and he MERELY killed a co-conspirator, and nothing to do with justice/doing the right thing.  Force-Hell is still not hot enough for. Darth. Vader.

So, over a half-hour+ or something freed up to come up with ANYthing that sets up the 'redemption' and somehow makes it WORK. Hey, he expresses out-loud doubts about ALL the killing they've done/do much earlier; add a death scene line about remorse - that's a huge improvement, just that much.  ;nod
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« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2021, 08:31:37 PM »
So yeah, add an establishing shot a few seconds zooming on the space station to the opening, maybe also a starscape wall-window in the dive - and more Vader, not Luke, to the Death Star II plot.

I'm not married to the space station - just tickles my fancy, and implies they caught up to Fett in time.

Note that my opening calls-back to the trash compactor room, juxtaposes a frenetic action sequence in nasty surroundings w/ Slave Leia in relative luxury being smart instead of hard (and NOT 'slave' - she obviously CHOSE to show off to fit in the room and now has agency) -which is what she's really good for in the group, smart, allegedly manages stuff- works in a line for all the speaking leads -w/ gags- and takes care of EVERYthing the [poop] it replaces needed to do to advance the plot.  -Fanservice and everything.  It's at least a complete workable skeleton.

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« Reply #118 on: January 28, 2021, 10:29:18 PM »
-And MY way leaves Fett uneaten, if you're sad enough to care.


But... its tradition that the Fett's get something done to their head!
I mean, even the prelogy got that right when Kenobi beheaded him.

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« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2021, 10:59:35 PM »
That was his dad.

 

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