Author Topic: Governors TTT  (Read 9933 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Online Buster's Uncle

  • With community service, I
  • Ascend
  • *
  • Posts: 49341
  • €848
  • View Inventory
  • Send /Gift
  • Because there are times when people just need a cute puppy  Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur  A WONDERFUL concept, Unity - & a 1-way trip that cost 400 trillion & 40 yrs.  
  • AC2 is my instrument, my heart, as I play my song.
  • Planet tales writer Smilie Artist Custom Faction Modder AC2 Wiki contributor Downloads Contributor
    • View Profile
    • My Custom Factions
    • Awards
Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2016, 03:46:21 PM »
Take it up with Yitzi?

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2016, 03:55:59 PM »
Some things are not easy to resolve. We would have to think about it:
- do we want each time the game to leave the path as it is? Maybe not, game creators did not make the path relative.
- maybe there are cases when we do need to have that path regenerated each time? I am not sure
- if we can have control over it, how to implement it? This actually controls the very ruleset (alphax.txt). So could we place a/the flag in alphax.txt or we would need another file for that.
- a solution would be to ask a player each time a save game is loaded if that path should be renewed. That would make more hassle for a player, and when someone by mistake chooses wrong option, would create more problems, need to manually correct the path (the way I did it).

Seems like a bigger issue.

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2016, 04:16:32 PM »
Actually, there may be a solution. Still not easy, but I remember I might have tried that some years ago.
We would need to save game under the same path, e.g. C:\smacx\games\governors\ ...
But all of us, no exceptions. And we would need to load it from there no exceptions!!! And alphax.txt would need to be there.

Why this would work? The game would just renew the path to the same text-path on each player computer.

The question is, do we want this?

Online Buster's Uncle

  • With community service, I
  • Ascend
  • *
  • Posts: 49341
  • €848
  • View Inventory
  • Send /Gift
  • Because there are times when people just need a cute puppy  Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur  A WONDERFUL concept, Unity - & a 1-way trip that cost 400 trillion & 40 yrs.  
  • AC2 is my instrument, my heart, as I play my song.
  • Planet tales writer Smilie Artist Custom Faction Modder AC2 Wiki contributor Downloads Contributor
    • View Profile
    • My Custom Factions
    • Awards
Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #18 on: February 21, 2016, 04:21:07 PM »
I meant sic Yitzi on the problem for the future, not this particular game...

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2016, 04:24:14 PM »
Yes, I know. Just thinking about the whole issue. Maybe I should start a new thread in modding.
There is one more thing. I started the game without triggering scenario flag. This may have this effect, but I am not sure. This is yet "another variable to the equation..."

Offline Misotu

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2016, 04:27:16 PM »
I am very glad to hear that it isn't me getting something wrong, because usually it is   :)  Thank you xx

I don't mind having to have a certain path as long as the instructions are really, really clear and aimed at someone who is not a software engineer, a modder, or in any way technical!

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2016, 04:50:46 PM »
So it turns out, with ensuring same modified alphax.txt, we also experiment.

A bad news is, it appears we cannot have that easily the fix in this game: it seems the starting folder is yet recorded in another place, maybe encrypted. So we would need to restart.
We may just play with our regular alphax.txt.

-----
Good news is, I think I remember now how it works.
In the future it may be easier to play in this way. Only folder with game files would be needed on everyone's computer. Save could be any place, cause of that additional place in the save where starting folder is recorded. It is in encrypted area, so recorded path to alternative alphax.txt would stay there unchanged.

Offline Misotu

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2016, 05:22:26 PM »
In the meantime ... I know how to turn the governor on or off and how to set the priorities from within the city screen. But I've looked through all the other menus I can find and I can't find the governor settings. Where are they? I've never used the governor in any of my games ...

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2016, 05:23:54 PM »
Kirov's turn, it is several posts earlier.

It is on the base screen, there is this "arrow" down next to Governor word.

Offline Kurvivor

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2016, 09:02:48 PM »
I may have troubles with the 'same path' solution
However i suppose we caould also manually (or sith some scripts) perform necessary path substitution before each of our turns

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2016, 09:26:39 PM »
We could also restart and test it.
First turn is usually not very deciding.

Online Buster's Uncle

  • With community service, I
  • Ascend
  • *
  • Posts: 49341
  • €848
  • View Inventory
  • Send /Gift
  • Because there are times when people just need a cute puppy  Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur  A WONDERFUL concept, Unity - & a 1-way trip that cost 400 trillion & 40 yrs.  
  • AC2 is my instrument, my heart, as I play my song.
  • Planet tales writer Smilie Artist Custom Faction Modder AC2 Wiki contributor Downloads Contributor
    • View Profile
    • My Custom Factions
    • Awards
Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2016, 09:53:44 PM »
...I bet Kirov has forgotten to be checking this thread, too...

Offline Mart

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2016, 11:31:40 PM »
We could restart, if this is ok with other players.

I would propose the following folder on C:\ drive, which is generally safe. Everyone using windows, or Wine on Linux should have drive C:\, so:
C:\smacxscen\scenarios\governors
and in there we would have our 2 txt files.

Offline Kurvivor

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2016, 09:06:07 AM »
Ok.
If i understand correctly, i must redo the first turn from the save file?

Offline Misotu

Re: Governors TTT
« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2016, 10:55:57 AM »
Thanks for that Mart, I completely missed the down arrow in the base screen.

Have set up the folders so hopefully I'm good to go now.

 

* User

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?


Login with username, password and session length

Select language:

* Community poll

SMAC v.4 SMAX v.2 (or previous versions)
-=-
24 (7%)
XP Compatibility patch
-=-
9 (2%)
Gog version for Windows
-=-
103 (32%)
Scient (unofficial) patch
-=-
40 (12%)
Kyrub's latest patch
-=-
14 (4%)
Yitzi's latest patch
-=-
89 (28%)
AC for Mac
-=-
3 (0%)
AC for Linux
-=-
6 (1%)
Gog version for Mac
-=-
10 (3%)
No patch
-=-
16 (5%)
Total Members Voted: 314
AC2 Wiki Logo
-click pic for wik-

* Random quote

And what of the immortal soul in such transactions? Can this machine transmit and reattach it as well? Or is it lost forever, leaving a soulless body to wander the world in despair?
~Sister Miriam Godwinson 'We must Dissent'

* Select your theme

*
Templates: 5: index (default), PortaMx/Mainindex (default), PortaMx/Frames (default), Display (default), GenericControls (default).
Sub templates: 8: init, html_above, body_above, portamx_above, main, portamx_below, body_below, html_below.
Language files: 4: index+Modifications.english (default), TopicRating/.english (default), PortaMx/PortaMx.english (default), OharaYTEmbed.english (default).
Style sheets: 0: .
Files included: 45 - 1228KB. (show)
Queries used: 38.

[Show Queries]