Governors TTT

[Mart]

This is turn tracking thread for special experimental game of governors.
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=17202.0

Due to setup, the factions are in this order (Believers being the first):
Believers -------------- Mart
Hive --- AI
Gaians ----------------- Kurvivor
University --- AI
Peacekeepers -------- Misotu
Cyber. Consc. --- AI
Data Angels ---------- Kirov

This is Yitzi 3.4 patch game.

This game requires additional scenario folder in your scenarios. Attached, please insert this into your game scenarios folder. (changed:
files, txt ones, must be in folder on C drive:
C:\smacxscen\scenarios\governors  ...files

Note, that both alphax.txt and script.txt files must be there.
If everything is ok, while loading game you will additionally see this message:

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SMACX Special game of Governors
Started February 2016
alphacentauri2.info

And when checking <CTRL> + F4:
This is special experimental game of Governors
The game is hosted on alphacenturi2.info forum
Human factions are:
Gaians
Peacekeepers
Data Angels
Believers

If everything goes ok, we can continue

Everyone needs to set the pasword!

Map is "visible" so you right away know, if you start on a small island. We can restart in such a case.

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Rules, additional, for Governors game:

1) Player can control fully only his/her HQ base (the base where Headquarters is located). In case such base is lost, hq destroyed, etc., a new base is chosen and must remain that selected base for full control as long as possible (until lost or another HQ is built in some base, this or another). This selected base cannot be changed to another base "at will."
2) In all remaining bases player cannot choose build queue items, he cannot also use saved build queue lists. Only Governor can select building items.
3) In these all remaining bases, Governor must be turned ON. However, player can choose priorities, one, all or none (or multiple, e.g. two or three also)
4) From Governor options ALL must be selected EXCEPT:
- Governor may use multiple priorities
- Governor sets new units to "fully automate."
- Governor may produce secret projects
- Governor may HURRY production
These four options may be ON or OFF, as the player desires.

[Misotu]

Hello Mart, sorry if this is a dumb question but I don't understand the modding stuff very well.

In my Alpha Centauri folder I have a scenarios folder which then has a sub-folder called "Alpha Centauri Scenarios". I've unzipped the download and it gives me a folder called "governors". So do I place that "governors" folder into the "scenarios" folder or into the "Alpha Centauri Scenarios" folder?

And once I've placed it in the correct folder, is that all I need to do?

[Mart]

into scenarios folder.

The reason is, that I modified in the sav file the so-called "absolute" path to a "relative" path:
.\scenarios\governors\governors_start_2101

the game cuts the sav file name governors_start_2101 and what remains is the direction to a folder where scenario files are placed, which are to be used instead of standard game ones. At least some of them.
For some reason game creators made the path absolute and not relative. So in multiplayer games there is the problem if players have different paths for installations, even drive letter can make them different.

You can test it yourself already. Generate some scenario file, just starting a game, turning on scenario editor and saving such game into scenario. Now place that .sc file into that governors folder and start the scenario. You should see this new message.
But you will have to repeat the test for our game, as it is different sav file.

[Misotu]

OK, thanks for this Mart. I've just realised I didn't ask one more thing - are we using Yitzi's patch for this game? And if we are presumably I can put this new folder into the scenarios directory without affecting my other MP games?

Sorry to be a pain   

[Mart]

I noted in the first post, that this is Yitzi 3.4. patch version.

The trick with this scenarios\governors and separate alphax.txt is to have no issues with other games.
However, the terranx.exe should be Yitzi 3.4., so it is good to place this in the game with that patch version, if you use more than one game folders.

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So yes, there would be no issues with other games, as long as you do not modify alphax.txt in the main folder where terran.exe file is.

[Misotu]

Thanks for this. Sorry I didn't remember you'd said we were using the patch, but I'm glad to know it won't affect my other games.

I will give it a try with the scenario editor.

[Kurvivor]

It would be great if the game rules would be summarized in something like a txt attachment in the first post
Gaians are OK with their island

[Mart]

It would be great if the game rules would be summarized in something like a txt attachment in the first post
...

I added the txt file with the ruleset.

How about the CTRL+F4 info screen. Have you seen the additional text?

[Kurvivor]

Sorry. I have forgotten to take a look

[Mart]

To whom we send our passwords?

[Buster's Uncle]

That would be me, both the active CMNs being players...

[Buster's Uncle]

Okay; I've only received one password, and am also wondering what's holding up the game progressing.  Is it Misotu's turn?

[Mart]

Yes, Misotu plays PK.

[Misotu]

Sorry, I missed the fact that the game had started. My start is fine and I've played it but when I pressed ctrl-F4 I didn't get the special message, just Yitzi's patch. I tested it before, ages ago, and as I recall I *did* get the message unless I'm going mad, so I'm puzzled.

The governors folder is in Alpha centauri/scenarios and both the .txt files are present. I don't know enough about this to work out what's wrong. I've tried moving the save file around in case it actually needs to be in the scenarios folder or whatever, but it doesn't seem to make any difference (although I've had to open it a few times to try it out of course).

Sorry about this but I have no idea what's wrong.

Is the next turn playable by the Angels, or do I have to replay?

[Mart]

... but when I pressed ctrl-F4 I didn't get the special message, just Yitzi's patch. I tested it before, ages ago, and as I recall I *did* get the message unless I'm going mad, so I'm puzzled.

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I know, what's happening.
The game each time renews that entry, so after Kurvivor's turn the save file has now the path from his computer.
This is why we needed so-called demac utility, which had to remove multiple colons from save file. I just forgot that.

No easy solutions with this game. We play with it as it is now, and think about a solution.