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Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #210 on: November 06, 2015, 12:36:35 AM »
So firstly ... sometimes I feel that Planet is against me. And this isn't paranoia. It's a demonstrable fact. :sob:

And secondly, your pop boom is frighteningly impressive and all I can say is that I wish I had the VW.  :treble sob:  Those hologram thingies are so damned expensive.

Now thirdly ... yes, yes, we have a political party in the UK called the Freedom to Party Party. Or at least we did, until people realised that they were having a party at everyone else's expense  :D

Now while we do take your point about expanding the scope of personal liberties in a totally egalitarian manner, it seems to us (and pardon us if we're a bit old-fashioned here) that the egalitarian right majorly extended by your proposal is the right to die a horrible screaming death while watching your nearest and dearest expire similarly around you, regardless of race, gender, creed or factional belief. This is, if you'll pardon the observation, not necessarily a major step forward for humanity generally, QEDs notwithstanding.  :ahem:

But obviously you are still our beloved and most loyal Pact Bro 'n all that.*

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Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #211 on: November 06, 2015, 12:54:10 AM »
OK, so how about this approach? If someone defies you once you've got hold of nerve gas, they're practically begging for it. So in a way, you can consider it euthanasia. And you're sure not against it, being pro-choice and all? So it's really just mass euthanasia, assisted in my case by the same faction which can also deliver the Last Rites, literally minutes before the carpet bombing! Think about it - thousands of souls marching straight to Heaven, while we take over the earthly possessions they don't need anymore. Everybody wins, right? Well, except Satan, of course.

BTW, the Maritime Control Centre poised for completion.

Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #212 on: November 06, 2015, 01:15:28 AM »
I'm quite enjoying this game though goodness only knows why. A Baptism of Fire on returning to MP. Kind of what you expect from the Believers I guess   ;lol

Congrats on the Maritime Brother Kirov. Regarding the "euthanasia" you outline, generally speaking we do support "dignity in dying" which does imply some choice - but we are unconvinced that a screaming, agonising death is the one most people would select, given a free choice. The Last Rites would be a nice touch, of course, but we're not sure it makes up for all the screaming, not to mention the agony and the rubble.

Just a thought.

The Peacekeepers are off to bed in a desperate bid to conserve energy, which they really need right now.

Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #213 on: November 06, 2015, 01:48:58 AM »
I enjoy this game as well, although a lot of what happened had to do with pure dumb luck. Oh well. I'm not fond of such a runaway situation on either side.

And when it comes to nerve gas, the main problem is, we don't even know what its effects are on broad population. What if it's not that agonising at all? You never know until you try. Nobody has ever used mass nerve gas in battle and it doesn't work on the bugs. Even testing it is illegal and the number of (alleged) test subjects is probably not that big, besides it's not the same. I say we just see what happens. If nerve gas is not what it's cracked up to be, we can always reinstate the Charter.

Oh, one more thing - the Citizen's Defence Force is, unfortunately, poised for completion. I hate this Project and I think it's useless, but in the hands of Deedee it could slow down my Inquisition. So just denial value.


Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #214 on: November 06, 2015, 10:48:41 AM »
BTW, don't forget your Rising Sun turn!

Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #215 on: November 06, 2015, 11:23:01 AM »
Hi Bro, just to let you know that we've taken off for an impromptu day trip today so won't be able to play until tomorrow ...

I almost apologised, but that's probably daft  :D  Thanks for mentioning Rising Sun, I didn't get a notification for some reason but I'll check that out tomorrow too

Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #216 on: November 06, 2015, 11:26:07 AM »
Have a nice trip! :)

Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #217 on: November 07, 2015, 09:52:50 AM »
We did, thanks  :)  Back to Planet ...


Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #218 on: November 07, 2015, 03:13:15 PM »
I've got another idea yesterday. You remember how Prince Harry compared shooting people in Afghanistan to playing video games? It struck me, why can't we do the same? Let's pretend that this is all just some very realistic video game, aptly titled Nerve Gas, and the victory condition is to subject as many bots as we can to various chemicals. This way, you don't have to be so squeamish about injecting some fun to the horrors of war.

Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #219 on: November 07, 2015, 04:50:34 PM »
You are amazingly persuasive Brother. I shall retire to my Retreat and meditate on your Words of Wisdom.*

*Almost certainly.

(And it was nice of you to speak of "dumb luck" earlier btw. But this is not really the explanation   :D  )

In the meantime, a large and angry mindworm has somehow pitched up near our HQ. We wait anxiously to see how our green defender will perform ...

Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #220 on: November 07, 2015, 05:08:39 PM »
I wish you all the best. Meawhile, this round of popboom is over.

You give me too much credit, dear Sister, but thank you. Are you ready to change your mind on the UN Charter? With you, only two more votes are needed. And much how adopting the Charter was a turning point for humanity, so too, will be repealing it! "Fellow creators the creator seeks -- those who write new values on new tablets".

Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #221 on: November 07, 2015, 05:38:17 PM »
I thought there was a fungus path available for our new wriggly friend but maybe the forest grew, I don't seem to get those messages in MP - we wait one more turn to see but our troops are quietly confident with creche, trance and a sensor ...  No doubt their confidence will prove to be misplaced.

You are very keen on the demise of the Charter, I know, but only you, dearest Fundamentalist, could see nerve gas as a creative force  :D  I don't know why you would need it anyway the way things stand  ....   :(

I had to restart the turn, I am sorry. It loaded but I had the movement problem and wrong minerals setting again so I couldn't play it. I did find a pod to pop this turn - but it gave me nothing useful at all and I only popped it on the second try, not the first. Even 25 credits would have been nice   ::)

Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #222 on: November 07, 2015, 05:48:30 PM »
What's the problem with your SMAC copy? I think you reported similar issues in Garland's Legacy.

And yep, the messages in SMAX are mixed up. Funny, in this game I get proper messages intended for me, but usually I tend to get the forest growth and kelp growth info for my predecessor.

Offline Misotu

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #223 on: November 07, 2015, 06:15:44 PM »
It's not my copy of the game, it's the wireless connection to the campsite internet mast - when the site is busy with mobile phones, or early in the evening when people tend to go on-line, the connection is very variable. I can usually spot it because the estimated download time actually increases rather than counting down smoothly, but I wasn't paying close attention on that one and missed it. I'm pretty sure it's not my install because the turn plays fine if I re-download (usually). The downside of living on camp sites   :(  Sorry. I do need to pay attention to the download speed but I got a bit careless because things have been better recently ...

I never get any messages about kelp or forest but I do seem to get everything else. Anyway, the mindworm is gone and our defender barely scratched  :)

Offline Kirov

Re: Law&Faith - TTT
« Reply #224 on: November 07, 2015, 06:28:11 PM »
Don't worry if you need to reload, the pod results will of course vary, but well what you can do.

Recently I racked up 12 ecodamage at my capitol and got a fungal pop in the next turn. This is unbelievable. This Planet of ours is remarkably vengeful.

And I guess we're saying adieu to our Provost Zakharov. I guess we could kinda see it coming, him being an atheist and all. Not feeling so smart now, heh, Mr Genius? Turns out all the answers were already in the good Book. Check-mate, atheists!

 

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