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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1875 on: August 15, 2016, 11:10:05 PM »
http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/15/media/commission-on-presidential-debates-polls/

Debates: What it will take for Gary Johnson or Jill Stein to make it in
by Brian Stelter   @brianstelter

Attention, Gary Johnson and Jill Stein: The Commission on Presidential Debates has revealed exactly how it will determine who gets to be on stage this fall.

In a normal election season, this announcement wouldn't matter much.



But this year Johnson, the Libertarian Party nominee, and Jill Stein, the Green Party contender, are both hoping to make the cut.

Donald T rump and Hillary Clinton are the only two definite participants, since they are polling well above the commission's 15% threshold for invitations.

Johnson and Stein are below the threshold and are trying to change that between now and mid-September. That's when the commission's "selection criteria" will be applied.

On Monday, the commission announced the five polls that will be averaged together to determine who is receiving 15% support nationwide.

The polls are ABC-Washington Post; CBS-New York Times; CNN-Opinion Research Corporation; Fox News; and NBC-Wall Street Journal.

The polls were chosen with "the professional advice" of Frank Newport, editor in chief of Gallup, the commission said.

The commission announced the 15% threshold in October 2015. But now it is explaining the process in more detail. The criteria "will be applied in mid-September," the commission said, not naming an exact date.

The first debate is scheduled for September 26.

"If a candidate is invited to the first presidential debate, that person's vice presidential running mate will be invited to the vice presidential debate," the commission said. "The criteria will be reapplied between the first and second presidential debates and the second and third presidential debates."

In other words, if Johnson or Stein aren't polling above 15% by mid-September but start to edge up after the first debate, they still have a chance to make it onto the stage.

CNN added up the results of the most recent ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox, and NBC polls to assess where the four candidates stand today with the commission's criteria in mind.

The results cover a period from July 29 to August 4. Clinton has 44% support, T rump has 36%, Johnson has 10%, and Stein has 5%.

The most recent CBS and Fox polls did not include Stein. If they continue to exclude her, "the average will be based on the polls that include a given candidate," a commission official said Monday.

But that may be irrelevant. A Fox News spokeswoman said Monday afternoon that Stein would be included in its polling.

CNN is holding a Green Party town hall with Stein on Wednesday night. The network has previously televised two Libertarian Party town halls with Johnson.

Jennifer Agiesta contributed reporting.

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That seems to leave out a couple of outlier polls while including all of the major news networks. The problem with these polls is that they tend to ask about ClinTrump 3 or 4 times before offering Johnson or Johnson and Stein as options. If the situation were altered, so that T rump wasn't  going to be offered as a valid option until the third or 4th question, I wonder how well he'd do.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1876 on: August 15, 2016, 11:15:20 PM »
That's been the problem all along...

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1877 on: August 16, 2016, 04:33:58 AM »
On the bright side Nate Silver confirms my hunch- 1) That Johnson avgs. 10% in these polls, only 8% with those polls not included in the debate qualification criteria.  2) Nate thinks these five are the same ones he'd use to make a determination.

Since the debate commission used the terms "margin of error" and "give an inch", I looked up the eligible polls from August so far, and added the margin of error in to each one, then averaged them.
They are fairly consistent, and it indicates Johnson near 10% ( as Silver said) and rounds off at 12% by adding the margin of error.


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1878 on: August 16, 2016, 07:08:39 AM »
Gleanings-

* From the Libertarian Republic in May- "In addition to all that information he’s hiding, Gary Johnson believes that Donald [Sleezebag] hasn’t released his tax returns because they would show he’s effectively paying a 0% tax rate. With the majority of [Sleezebag]’s net worth and income tied up in real estate he’s eligible for thousands of deductions. Given that the man has admitted to trying to pay the lowest rate possible, it’s conceivable that he’s actually paying nothing in income taxes. This revelation would be an enormous scandal that might even turn off some of [Sleezebag]’s own supporters. After all, his populist message is built on making the billionaires pay more in taxes – just like Bernie Sanders’ own shtick."

My wife says that is entirely possible.

* Ohio's Secretary of state has approved the approach of getting Gary on the ballot in Ohio, so that shouldn't be a problem.

*US News and World Report says health questions about presidential candidates could only be settled by an independent panel. Apparently nobody would believe [Sleezebag] or Hillary anyway.

* Here's the snopes version of a viral piece about Hillary and a dog. http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/01/bonner-hillary-k9-handler/

* As for [Sleezebag] ( shakes head )

* According to The Hill, as strong as Hillary looks there are five things which could still go wrong- 1) A mistake in a debate 2) More hacked e-mails disclosed 3) Clinton voters stay home in anticipation of a blowout. 4) More Clinton Foundation revelations.  5) A terrorist attack.

Offline Unorthodox

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1879 on: August 16, 2016, 02:01:17 PM »
Gleanings-

* From the Libertarian Republic in May- "In addition to all that information he’s hiding, Gary Johnson believes that Donald T rump hasn’t released his tax returns because they would show he’s effectively paying a 0% tax rate. With the majority of T rump’s net worth and income tied up in real estate he’s eligible for thousands of deductions. Given that the man has admitted to trying to pay the lowest rate possible, it’s conceivable that he’s actually paying nothing in income taxes. This revelation would be an enormous scandal that might even turn off some of T rump’s own supporters. After all, his populist message is built on making the billionaires pay more in taxes – just like Bernie Sanders’ own shtick."

My wife says that is entirely possible.

I don't see why that would be a problem.

"OF COURSE I'm Paying zero, that's why we need someone who KNOWS the loopholes to FIX them!" 

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1880 on: August 16, 2016, 08:32:40 PM »
Gleanings-

* From the Libertarian Republic in May- "In addition to all that information he’s hiding, Gary Johnson believes that Donald T rump hasn’t released his tax returns because they would show he’s effectively paying a 0% tax rate. With the majority of T rump’s net worth and income tied up in real estate he’s eligible for thousands of deductions. Given that the man has admitted to trying to pay the lowest rate possible, it’s conceivable that he’s actually paying nothing in income taxes. This revelation would be an enormous scandal that might even turn off some of T rump’s own supporters. After all, his populist message is built on making the billionaires pay more in taxes – just like Bernie Sanders’ own shtick."

My wife says that is entirely possible.

I don't see why that would be a problem.

"OF COURSE I'm Paying zero, that's why we need someone who KNOWS the loopholes to FIX them!"

Good point. I suppose that excuse will suffice for the followers, but I haven't read or heard anything in his tax proposals that would address the deduction and loophole issue.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1881 on: August 16, 2016, 08:44:25 PM »
http://time.com/4452373/gary-johnson-personal-choice/

Cutting and pasting the page isn't gonna happen with my machine today. Anyway, it's an opinion page written by Gary Johnson. He credits his personal success of turning a one man handy man business into a construction company that employed 1,000 people to freedom and profit sharing.

That made becoming governor, becoming an endurance athlete, and running for president possible.

He wants future generations to have those same freedoms to achieve that he had.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1882 on: August 16, 2016, 09:13:28 PM »
The 538 "Nowcast"



Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 359.7

Donald [Sleezebag] 177.9

Gary Johnson     0.4


Popular vote

Hillary Clinton 48.4%

Donald [Sleezebag] 41.0%

Gary Johnson   9.2%

---------------

The 538 Polls Plus ( adjusted for economic and historical factors . This is the model with the stellar track record )



Electoral votes

Hillary Clinton 321.6

Donald [Sleezebag] 216.1

Gary Johnson     0.2


Popular vote

Hillary Clinton  48.1%

Donald [Sleezebag]  43.7%

Gary Johnson    6.9%

---------------------------------

[Sleezebag] is doing so badly that if the election were held today, South Carolina is the ONLY East Coast state he'd win.


Offline Unorthodox

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1883 on: August 16, 2016, 09:17:58 PM »
Good point. I suppose that excuse will suffice for the followers, but I haven't read or heard anything in his tax proposals that would address the deduction and loophole issue.

There's not.  In fact, I believe it will actually HELP him.  But that's not what he SAYS, and the average joe don't understand economics. 

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1884 on: August 16, 2016, 11:29:44 PM »
Gleanings-

* The House is preparing a perjury case against Hillary, with regard to her testimony before them.

* [Sleezebag] is slowly but surely taking the GOP Senate majority down with him.

* Considerably more Republicans are asking for the RNC to defund [Sleezebag] and to spend it's money down ballot.

* Johnson has a goal of raising money - $15 contributions, by the 15th of August in order to get to 15% in the polls. He was hoping for $1.5 million, but it's something over 2.9, so far. The campaign is gaining credibility, at least.


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1885 on: August 17, 2016, 12:23:13 AM »
* The House is preparing an unbiased, credible, bi-bartisan, completely non-political and fair perjury case against Hillary, with regard to her testimony before them.
FIFY
 
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1886 on: August 17, 2016, 01:06:08 AM »
* The House is preparing an unbiased, credible, bi-bartisan, completely non-political and fair perjury case against Hillary, with regard to her testimony before them.
FIFY
 
Good luck with the cooking.

The cooking turned out well enough. My plans were to make a batch of chilli , and a BLT for my wife, who hates beans of all kinds. But, she had to take her mom to the doctor's, and brought her home for dinner and TV watching before returning her to assisted living. My wife ( who cooks few things) decided to have spaghetti. Since her family does it a little differently than mine, I was just the assistant, finding utensils, stirring the pasta once a minute, taking directions, that sort of thing.

YEAH. I find this perjury problematic. Flashbacks to Bill. As somebody who thinks integrity in government is a big deal, and that those at the top aren't above the law, I'm conflicted. I sort of thought the public opinion polls which said that people thought that it was okay for Bill to lie on the stand to protect himself and his family meant that the country was lost because the court system was undermined.  But beyond that, it seemed to me that integrity was the concern of about 1 or 2% of Congress at the time, and politics was the focus of the rest.

Deja Vu all over again.

Of course this time, I don't really think that lying to a lying Congress in pursuit of political grandstanding is as serious of an offense as lying in a trial. I would have hoped that Hillary, as a Watergate hearing participant would have exhibited higher ethics.

A great waste of time and television.  So much so that I think I won't bring it up in this thread again.

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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1887 on: August 17, 2016, 06:07:55 AM »
Perhaps I can get this posted before the next crash. The reasoning seems sound to me. If the Commission on Presidential Debates are to remain a tax-exempt charity participating in elections, they must be non-partisan. Bi-partisan is not non-partisan.

http://reason.com/blog/2016/08/15/johnsonweld-superpac-threatens-the-commi

To quote from the letter, sent to me his morning by R.J. Lyman, who runs Solifico:

For your Commission to survive, for us all to thrive, you must limit your selection criteria to those consistent with its tax-exempt, charitable purposes and as inherently useful for educating the electorate about those standing for election in the Presidential and Vice Presidential contests.

The law is against you. Like all tax-exempt, charitable organizations, your Commission cannot participate or intervene in political campaigns, including by the "publishing or distributing of statements" for or against any candidate. ....The only way in which a tax exempt charity may engage in voter education activities, specifically including presenting debates, is to conduct them in a non-partisan manner....

To conduct itself in a non-partisan manner, a debate sponsor cannot show "bias or preference for or against" particular candidates; there must be "fair and impartial treatment of candidates" without any promotion or advancement of some candidates over others....So long as all candidates are invited, a tax-exempt charity acts properly in holding a debate or similar forum....

Put another way, bi-partisan is not the same as non-partisan. You cannot select some but not
 others from among all those who are legally eligible to, and capable of, competing for election.

The letter also says that the CPD can't rely on the notion that courts have upheld their 15 percent poll criteria, since "the Internal Revenue Service and the courts reviewing tax code cases apply review standards entirely distinct from those relevant to the Federal Election Commission and courts reviewing election law disputes."

Lyman's letter goes on to say:

The facts are against you. Your Commission's fundamentally educational purpose is compromised by the inherent bias or preference of your selection criteria...The 15% opinion polling criterion does not address whether an individual is standing as a contestant in the election; that would be ok. Instead, it attempts to assess which individuals are, at a given date, months before the election, projected likely to win the election; that is not ok.


 There is no way you can maintain both (a) the 15% opinion polling criterion by which you make a "selection" of whom to invite to the debate stage, and (b) your tax-exempt, charitable status, under which you are allowed only to determine who is "eligible" to participate on the debate stage. It is simply a fact – you have to choose one or the other.

Then, the hammer is threatened:


Absent your timely addressing the problem of the opinion polling criterion, we are inclined to make a referral to the
 Internal Revenue Service about whether your Commission has violated the limitations on political activity applicable to tax-exempt charitable organizations and perhaps to seek immediate equitable relief in courts of competent jurisdiction.

One element of the letter confused me, stating that it was not Solifico's position that past lawsuits trying to fight their way into the debates, including ones by Johnson, were legitimate:


Solifico does not adopt the posture of those would-be debaters who have in the past sued your
 Commission after they failed to meet your criteria for an invitation. No matter our personal
 preference, that was the right result for the 2012 candidates, as it was for Ralph Nader before them.

Asked to clarify in a phone interview this morning, Lyman said that "it's a bit of a lawyerly point" but he analogized the lawsuit solution as "like medieval jousters complaining they didn't get invited to the tournament" and he is not now saying "'invite me! invite me!'" but rather that "if you don't change your rules, you can't be a tax exempt non profit.

"It's not about the candidate or the commission," he further explained, "it's about the voters." Lyman analogized the CPD to rating agencies that served the interests of their customers, the banks, rather than the investors.

In that analogy, the CPD is behaving like the rating agencies, and the two major parties are the banks. Thus, Lyman's tack is not to insist that the candidates are being treated unfairly by CPD, but that CPD's implicit obligation to the voters is being violated in a manner not commensurate with their tax-exempt mission.

I also asked Lyman to speak to rumors I'd heard that his PAC had received or was soon to receive a seven figure donation. While Lyman would not speak to financial specifics, he said that "I wouldn't have sent this letter out if I wasn't well prepared for the battle with the two-headed dragon. I don't want to get in the habit of saying that x dollars is a number that meets or falls short of expectations, but I know how much engaging lawyers in big law firms cost, I have 25 years of experience in one, and I know how entrenched and powerful and rich our adversaries are, and we are ready for the battle."

A call to the CPD seeking comment on the letter has not been returned as of time of posting; if they reply will update.


 

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1888 on: August 18, 2016, 04:25:29 AM »
So.... [Sleezebag] Shall be [Sleezebag] henceforth. Breitbart has been the [Sleezebag] News Network as surely as Huffington has been the Dump on [Sleezebag] News Network.  Now that I've completed the cut and paste I realize it's too long and nobody cares. It just means that [Sleezebag] will focus on his anti-immigrant /anti-Muslim/ protectionist message with a new manager aboard, and Roger Ailes, too.

-stephen-bannon-paul-manafort.html?_r=0]http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/18/us/politics/donald-[Sleezebag]-stephen-bannon-paul-manafort.html?_r=0

Donald [Sleezebag] Appoints Media Firebrand to Run Campaign
By JONATHAN MARTIN, JIM RUTENBERG and MAGGIE HABERMANAUG. 17, 2016

Donald J. [Sleezebag] named as his new campaign chief on Wednesday a conservative media provocateur whose news organization regularly attacks the Republican Party establishment, savages Hillary Clinton and encourages Mr. [Sleezebag]’s most pugilistic instincts.

Mr. [Sleezebag]’s decision to make Stephen K. Bannon, chairman of the Breitbart News website, his campaign’s chief executive was a defiant rejection of efforts by longtime Republican hands to wean him from the bombast and racially charged speech that helped propel him to the nomination but now threaten his candidacy by alienating the moderate voters who typically decide the presidency.

It also formally completed a merger between the most strident elements of the conservative news media and Mr. [Sleezebag]’s campaign, which was incubated and fostered in their boisterous coverage of his rise.

Mr. Bannon was appointed a day after the recently ousted Fox News chairman, Roger Ailes, emerged in an advisory role with Mr. [Sleezebag]. It was not lost on Republicans in Washington that two news executives whose outlets had fueled the anti-establishment rebellion that bedeviled congressional leaders and set the stage for Mr. [Sleezebag]’s nomination were now directly guiding the party’s presidential message and strategy.

Mr. Bannon’s most recent crusade was his failed attempt to oust the House speaker, Paul D. Ryan, in this month’s primary, making his new role atop the [Sleezebag] campaign particularly provocative toward Republican leaders in Washington.

Party veterans responded Wednesday with a mix of anger about the damage they saw Mr. [Sleezebag] doing to their party’s reputation and gallows humor about his apparent inability, or unwillingness, to run a credible presidential campaign in a year that once appeared promising.

“If [Sleezebag] were actually trying to antagonize supporters and antagonize new, reachable supporters, what exactly would he be doing differently?” asked Dan Senor, a longtime Republican strategist who advised Mitt Romney and his running mate, Mr. Ryan, in 2012.

Terry Sullivan, who ran Senator Marco Rubio’s presidential campaign, said Mr. [Sleezebag] and Breitbart “both play to the lowest common denominator of people’s fears. It’s a match made in heaven.”

For Mr. [Sleezebag], though, bringing in Mr. Bannon was the political equivalent of ordering comfort food. Only last week, Mr. [Sleezebag] publicly expressed ambivalence about modifying his style. “I think I may do better the other way,” he told Time magazine. “They would like to see it be a little bit different, a little more modified. I don’t like to modify.”

Mr. Bannon’s transition from mischief-maker at Breitbart to the inner circle of the de facto leader of the Republican Party capped the second shake-up of Mr. [Sleezebag]’s campaign in two months.

Kellyanne Conway, a veteran pollster and strategist who was already advising Mr. [Sleezebag], will become his campaign manager and is expected to travel with the candidate, filling a void that opened up when Corey Lewandowski was fired on June 20.

Mr. [Sleezebag]’s loyalists put the best possible face on the changes announced Wednesday, but their timing, after a New York Times article detailing his advisers’ frustration at trying to impose discipline on him, underscored why so many in the party have soured on his prospects: His decisions are often made in reaction to news coverage.

Paul Manafort, the campaign chairman, will retain his title and focus on the political shop but was widely seen as being sidelined: Mr. Bannon and Ms. Conway have both developed close relationships with Mr. [Sleezebag], and Mr. Bannon is likely to be more amenable to letting him run the sort of media-focused campaign he prefers.

“This is an exciting day for Team [Sleezebag],” Mr. Manafort wrote in an internal staff memo. “I remain the campaign chairman and chief strategist, providing the big-picture, long-range campaign vision,” he added.

On a conference call Wednesday morning, Jason Miller, a [Sleezebag] spokesman, said the moves had been well received, pointing to favorable coverage on the MSNBC show “Morning Joe.”

Under Mr. Bannon, Breitbart News has been an amen corner for Mr. [Sleezebag], and perhaps more relentless than any other conservative outlet in its criticism of the Republican establishment.

But what most distresses mainstream party strategists about the union of Mr. [Sleezebag]’s campaign with Breitbart’s guiding vision is the brand of populism that the website has advocated, and that Mr. [Sleezebag] has championed.
 
Mr. Bannon has overseen a site that is focused primarily on pushing Republicans away from what it calls a globalist agenda and toward a hard-line and often overtly racial one, railing against what it sees as the threats of free trade, Hispanic migration and Islamist terrorism.

“This is [Sleezebag] going back to the nativism and nationalism that fueled his rise in the primary,” said Lanhee J. Chen, who was Mr. Romney’s policy director in 2012. “But it’s very dangerous to the future of the party because it only further narrows the appeal of a party whose appeal was already narrow going into this cycle.”

Mr. Chen called Mr. [Sleezebag]’s shift “a base reinforcement strategy” and noted that it was very different from the tack of most party nominees, who use the final months of the presidential race to broaden their appeal in hopes of winning over the maximum number of voters.

But to those on the right who are hoping to permanently shift Republicans away from free-market conservatism and toward a harder-edged populism, the addition of Mr. Bannon was a victory for the “America First” approach they want to ingrain in the party.

“He doesn’t need any help formulating his message — his message is perfect,” the conservative author Ann Coulter said of Mr. [Sleezebag]. Referring to Mr. [Sleezebag]’s policy adviser, speechwriter and warm-up speaker, she added, “Maybe he could use 10 more Stephen Millers.”

As comfortable as Mr. [Sleezebag] may feel with Mr. Bannon’s style of politics, their unconventional alliance, and the possibility that the coming weeks could resemble a conservative publicity tour more than a conventional White House run, fueled speculation that Mr. [Sleezebag] was already looking past November.

In recent months, Mr. [Sleezebag] and his son-in-law, Jared Kushner, have quietly explored becoming involved with a media holding, either by investing in one or by taking one over, according to a person close to Mr. [Sleezebag] who was briefed on those discussions.

At a minimum, the campaign’s homestretch offers Mr. [Sleezebag], who has begun to limit his national media appearances to conservative outlets, an opportunity to build his audience and steer his followers toward the combative Breitbart site. Even before announcing the staff shake-up, Mr. [Sleezebag] intensified his criticism of the mainstream news media in a speech on Tuesday night in which he declared that he was running against the “media-donor-political complex.”

Mr. [Sleezebag]’s elevation of Mr. Bannon and Ms. Conway also highlights the growing influence of Robert Mercer and his daughter Rebekah, conservative donors from Long Island. The Mercers are investors in Breitbart, and their foundation funds a host of other conservative activist groups. They spent millions on Senator Ted Cruz’s behalf during the Republican primary, an effort Ms. Conway helped lead. And they began bankrolling a pro-[Sleezebag] “super PAC” in recent weeks after becoming friendly with Mr. [Sleezebag], his daughter Ivanka and her husband, Mr. Kushner.
 
At Breitbart and its sister foundation, the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Bannon ran a hybrid between a news organization and an opposition-research operation aimed at discrediting Mrs. Clinton. The institute sponsored a book about Mrs. Clinton’s financial entanglements, “Clinton Cash,” which spawned various articles in mainstream newspapers last year, including in The New York Times.

Rival conservative news organizations viewed Breitbart as something of an outlier, which was evident in the title of an article the Weekly Standard writer Stephen F. Hayes wrote on Wednesday: “[Sleezebag] Has Decided to Live in Breitbart’s Alternative Reality.”

“It’s the merger of the [Sleezebag] campaign with the kooky right,” William Kristol, editor of The Weekly Standard, said of Mr. Bannon’s new role.

Mr. Bannon has now joined with Mr. Ailes in a common cause on Mr. [Sleezebag]’s behalf, a mission that Breitbart never pretended to deny. But Mr. Ailes’s direct involvement casts a new light on how his network handled Mr. [Sleezebag]’s candidacy.

In the weeks before the Fox News host Gretchen Carlson filed the sexual harassment lawsuit that led to Mr. Ailes’s forced resignation, Mr. Ailes had been in regular contact with Mr. [Sleezebag] and met with him at least twice, people briefed on the sessions said.

While meetings between a presidential candidate and the chairman of an influential television network are hardly unheard-of, especially with Mr. [Sleezebag], Mr. Ailes’s direct involvement in the campaign raises new questions about whether the sessions involved more than the usual complaints about coverage.

Before Mr. Ailes’s ouster, some of the network’s most prominent journalists and contributors privately complained that Mr. Ailes was pushing them to be more supportive of Mr. [Sleezebag]. This drew particular umbrage from longtime Republican staff members and contributors who either opposed Mr. [Sleezebag]’s candidacy on ideological grounds or believed it demanded tough reporting on journalistic grounds.
 
There was, though, one prominent conservative voice unambiguously in Mr. Ailes’s corner since the beginning of the sexual harassment scandal: Breitbart.

The website emerged as a singular defender of Mr. Ailes, with a piece about a planned walkout by network stars loyal to him should he be forced out — it never came to pass — and one by Mr. Bannon ridiculing the “minor Murdochs” (the 21st Century Fox chief Rupert Murdoch’s sons and co-executives, James and Lachlan), who were seen as leading the push for Mr. Ailes to resign.




Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1889 on: August 18, 2016, 05:20:12 AM »
Gleanings-

*Stein and Evan McMullen are struggling with spoiler labels.

*Hillary isn't motivating Democrats to vote for her, especially black ones, so mush as [Sleezebag] is motivating them to vote against him.

*Johnson & Weld had a town hall on Fusion tonight, recorded it, haven't watched. They also did a rally in Miami.

* Johnson is at a 10% average in the debate qualifying polls, with an average 3% margin of error. The polls with the smallest margins also have the highest numbers.

* Politifact investigated Johnson's claim that a majority of Americans favor marijuana legalization.
It's True.  In national polls from 2014 on-
"In 12 of these 14 polls, an outright majority of respondents -- 50 percent or more -- supported legalization. As for the other two polls, legalization led in one by 48 percent to 47 percent and in the other by 49 percent to 48 percent.

Overall, if you average the 14 polls, legalization led by a 53 percent-44 percent margin."

 

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Language files: 4: index+Modifications.english (default), TopicRating/.english (default), PortaMx/PortaMx.english (default), OharaYTEmbed.english (default).
Style sheets: 0: .
Files included: 45 - 1228KB. (show)
Queries used: 34.

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