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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1845 on: August 09, 2016, 10:59:23 PM »
So crashes yet today, but I'm struggling to open more than one window at a time, so I'll mostly summarize.

NY Times about an hour ago-

"WILMINGTON, N.C. — Donald J. [Sleezebag] on Tuesday appeared to raise the possibility that gun rights supporters could take matters into their own hands if Hillary Clinton is elected president and appoints judges who favor stricter gun control measures to the bench.


At a rally here, Mr. [Sleezebag] warned that it would be “a horrible day” if Mrs. Clinton were elected and got to appoint a tiebreaking Supreme Court justice.


“If she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks,” Mr. [Sleezebag] said, as the crowd began to boo. He quickly added: “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”
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Yesterday, 50 GOP security and foreign policy experts, from the W. Bush administration denounced [Sleezebag] as unfit for office and dangerous because of his disposition and ignorance.

[Sleezebag] responded by saying they were responsible for the Iraq War, were sore losers, and it was good to have them self-identify.

All well and fine and fair game up to that point, but [Sleezebag] couldn't let well enough alone, blaming them for Benghazi and being the architects of ISIS- yeah, really, and proving their case that he was ignorant and unfit for office.

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Bill Clinton actually doesn't have Parkinson's, but Hillary might. Of course, she's being secretive, as per usual.

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Chris Christie is looking pretty uncomfortable these days. Ted Cruz was pretty sure he was making the right decision in the long run by telling Republicans to vote their conscience, he just didn't expect to get quite as much backlash, or to be vindicated so soon. Nate Silver is waiting to see what Kasich does, he can't see a [Sleezebag] win without Ohio.

Well I've spoken about Ohio before, historically, the GOP doesn't win the Whitehouse without it. I think it's because Ohio is a demographic mini-America. A message that appeals to a majority of Americans will play in Ohio.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1846 on: August 10, 2016, 12:58:13 AM »
Your machine is done for, man.  Time for a new one, I'm afraid, and this is a practicing miser speaking...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1847 on: August 10, 2016, 01:36:11 AM »
It's a little better after the last crash...I just want the Civ VI specs before I buy new, or I would have replaced it already. If I disappear, you'll know why.

If that happens I might try taking it apart and blowing out the accumulated cat hair which must surely reside within. I'd have nothing to lose at that point.

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You know, I'm equal opportunity.

Can we get [Sleezebag] to submit to a psych evaluation, Hillary a medical, and Johnson a drug test?

Or have all of them take all of those tests. They don't have anything to be afraid of, do they?


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1848 on: August 10, 2016, 01:49:29 AM »
I actually doubt any of them suffer from any of those problems.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1849 on: August 10, 2016, 07:18:05 AM »
If they don't, GREAT! We can stop talking about them and get back to the issues.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1850 on: August 10, 2016, 01:09:03 PM »
What issues?  The conversation for months has been about "decent people shouldn't even continence" v. "nobody likes her" -and your "Who?  -Don't throw away your vote" guy- and the issues are the sideshow. alas...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1851 on: August 10, 2016, 02:16:44 PM »
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Dan Rather: Journalist Addresses Donald T rump's Comments on '2nd Amendment People,' Hillary Clinton

"This is no longer about policy, civility, decency or even temperament. This is a direct threat of violence against a political rival," Rather wrote in a Facebook post Tuesday.
https://www.facebook.com/topic/Dan-Rather/105628452803615?source=whfrt&position=1&trqid=6317177653805257105

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1852 on: August 10, 2016, 04:00:14 PM »
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Dan Rather: Journalist Addresses Donald T rump's Comments on '2nd Amendment People,' Hillary Clinton

"This is no longer about policy, civility, decency or even temperament. This is a direct threat of violence against a political rival," Rather wrote in a Facebook post Tuesday.
https://www.facebook.com/topic/Dan-Rather/105628452803615?source=whfrt&position=1&trqid=6317177653805257105

Saw the part of the speech everybody was referring too.  It does not come across as "someone go kill her".  It comes across as "those of you who value the 2nd unite because when she gets done filling the supreme court, ain't anybody going to have a gun but the criminals!"

Reminds me of Henry II and Thomas Becket, "Who will rid me of the meddlesome priest?"
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1853 on: August 10, 2016, 04:32:40 PM »
I dunno; I think I'd heard something about this, but wasn't looking for it when I heard it on the news last night without listening to the anchor's introduction, but it rather sounded to me like "or the gun nuts might shoot her".  I can't claim to have a 'trashy real estate hustler-speak to English' dictionary handy, but it tends to disqualify - atop the Everest of disqualifications compiled.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1854 on: August 10, 2016, 07:30:51 PM »
I might shrug it off as a tasteless joke, but coming from a person who said he could shoot somebody dead on 5th avenue and get away with it because of his popularity... since he already had the reaction to that, I think he knows the implications of these remarks.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1855 on: August 10, 2016, 07:54:21 PM »
I wouldn't want to soil the soiled waters going for the low-hanging fruit like that - but I really think he speculated in public that people who like guns might murder her, and failed to mention at ALL that that would be WRONG.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1856 on: August 10, 2016, 08:30:29 PM »
Gleanings-

* The LA Times has joined the Chicago Tribune in calling for Gary to be included in the debates. The Times also wants Jill Stein on stage.

* The Commission has instructed the venues to prepare for three podiums, and the talk of "giving an inch" sounds more like "the margin of error"

* Johnson's Ohio ballot access is muddled... I'll speculate and suggest that it's rooted to John Kasich's gubernatorial/presidential ambitions, but there have been laws passed there to obstruct third parties. The Libertarians were de-certified for not getting enough votes for governor last time.
To get on the ballot as a party again, they need about as many signatures as Gary got there in the last presidential election. A heavy burden. So they started collecting signatures before the nominee was named at the Libertarian convention. The threshold for getting an independent on the ballot was lower. So they circulated petitions with the name of a placeholder candidate instead, planning to switch.

Well, they delivered the petitions with the name of the placeholder in a timely fashion, but the officials are baffled, and have to consult the laws. So who knows?





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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1857 on: August 10, 2016, 09:38:23 PM »
I try to divide my searches for political news among the players, and it depends on time and crashes how much gets done in a day.

This week I've been wondering what's up with Hillary's health and why is she trying to hide it? A pharmacist made a case for Parkinson's. Of course the anti-Hillary blogs/ sources jumped on that. 
Clearly, something wasn't right with her, so I dug into it out of curiosity.

I'm only going to link the article, because it quotes some doctors and has links and videos.
http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/hillarys-latest-brain-freeze-stumps-doctors/

This suggests other medical issues, and seems more plausible to me than other theories.

I'm starting to view her with compassion rather than hatred. I can personally relate to falls, convulsions, and side effects of medications . I had vallium on hand  for my dog, who had a seizure. I have family on blood thinners.

Maybe those facial things, and other behaviors  I was recognizing as lies and insincerity, were really symptoms or side effects of maladies and meds- afflictions.

Well, I have no idea about her fitness for office on the basis of health, but this, more than anything makes her seem human, and "one of us" .


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Hillary is probably too proud to be pitied, but for the first time, I think I can relate to her.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1858 on: August 10, 2016, 09:49:10 PM »
You should REALLY back up to March -or whenever it was I posted the link in this thread- and read the Vanity Fair article.  The reporter's a bit in the bag for her, but that's why she trusted him to give the access to meet the real her out in the hall and compare it to the aggressive woman in the roomful of tall men...  The reporter likes the woman in the hall.  I suspect it says everything about who she really is and why she comes off so badly in public...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1859 on: August 10, 2016, 09:58:23 PM »
You should REALLY back up to March -or whenever it was I posted the link in this thread- and read the Vanity Fair article.  The reporter's a bit in the bag for her, but that's why she trusted him to give the access to meet the real her out in the hall and compare it to the aggressive woman in the roomful of tall men...  The reporter likes the woman in the hall.  I suspect it says everything about who she really is and why she comes off so badly in public...

Okay. I got an errand to run, and dinner to attend, but it makes sense to read that again while she has my benefit of the doubt.

 

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