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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1770 on: August 01, 2016, 02:31:37 PM »
I'll buy half that...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1771 on: August 01, 2016, 04:20:40 PM »
Since as I've said, Halloween sales are the only reliable predictor, I bring you this news: 

Looking at the expected numbers, stores are stocking [Sleezebag] masks 3-1 over Hillary. 

0 Johnson masks....I don't even know if one is available. 

It's still early enough to change, but that's the early indicators. 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1772 on: August 01, 2016, 04:24:37 PM »
I hate to even say, given my poor betting record when it comes to the Pig, but there really is a huge sideshow factor feeding that, surely, that may not be reflected at all when it's grownups time and votes are for keepsies.  I still want to believe what I was saying a year ago, despite so many interim disappointments.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1773 on: August 01, 2016, 06:12:49 PM »
I would suggest that the mask rules may not apply to women. They may keep their politics separate from their Halloween. A lot of women seem to like to get sexier for Halloween, and I think Hillary is on the frumpier side of Halloween costumes.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1774 on: August 01, 2016, 06:17:34 PM »
That's taking it easy - the Hilary masks I've seen pictured over the years are all hideous.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1775 on: August 01, 2016, 06:59:31 PM »
A lot of women seem to like to get sexier for Halloween, and I think Hillary is on the frumpier side of Halloween costumes.

Don't make me post the links...just bear in mind there are sexy versions of both candidates. 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1776 on: August 01, 2016, 07:07:30 PM »
Please don't make him post the links...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1777 on: August 01, 2016, 07:42:52 PM »
Please don't post the links.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1778 on: August 01, 2016, 07:47:54 PM »
;lol

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1779 on: August 01, 2016, 08:18:01 PM »
Do it.  I dare ya!
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1780 on: August 01, 2016, 08:32:23 PM »
;no

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1781 on: August 01, 2016, 11:21:56 PM »
-clash-with-khan-family/2016/08/01/10ca7e10-57e8-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mccain-adds-latest-salvo-in-gop-dismay-over-[Sleezebag]-clash-with-khan-family/2016/08/01/10ca7e10-57e8-11e6-831d-0324760ca856_story.html

John McCain, VFW condemn [Sleezebag] over attacks on Khan family

By Sean Sullivan August 1 at 1:48 PM 


Donald [Sleezebag] drew direct criticism from Sen. John McCain and the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Monday for upbraiding the Muslim American parents of an Army officer killed in Iraq in 2004. But the GOP presidential nominee refused to back down from his attacks, and a former aide argued that the soldier would still be alive had [Sleezebag] been president at the time.

The condemnations by McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee and a Vietnam veteran who was held captive; and the VFW, a well-known national group with a membership of 1.7 million, served as the most forceful rebuke yet by the military community to [Sleezebag]’s comments.

The escalating tensions, coming at the start of the general election campaign, were the latest turns in a bitter exchange that is dominating the presidential race and has frayed [Sleezebag]’s already delicate alliance with GOP leaders.

[‘We’ve never been challenged this way’: Military support groups demand respect for Khan family]

McCain (R-Ariz.), a respected figure on national security issues in the Republican Party, issued a written statement sternly reprimanding [Sleezebag].

“In recent days, Donald [Sleezebag] disparaged a fallen soldier’s parents,” said McCain, who was taken prisoner during the Vietnam War. “He has suggested that the likes of their son should not be allowed in the United States — to say nothing of entering its service. I cannot emphasize enough how deeply I disagree with Mr. [Sleezebag]’s statement. I hope Americans understand that the remarks do not represent the views of our Republican Party, its officers, or candidates.”

[GOP dismay grows as [Sleezebag] stands his ground]

McCain, who has tangled with [Sleezebag] before, most notably after [Sleezebag] said last year that McCain was not a war hero because he had been “captured,” added: “While our party has bestowed upon him the nomination, it is not accompanied by unfettered license to defame those who are the best among us.”

Brian Duffy, the recently elected commander-in-chief of the VFW, released a statement saying the organization “will not tolerate anyone berating a Gold Star family member for exercising his or her right of speech or expression.”




Duffy added that “there are certain sacrosanct subjects that no amount of wordsmithing can repair once crossed.”

The admonishments went beyond the words of House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). Over the weekend, they expressed support for the Khan family and reiterated their opposition to [Sleezebag]’s proposed ban on most Muslims. But neither mentioned [Sleezebag] by name and neither abandoned support for the nominee.

Khizr and Ghazala Khan participated in a round of television interviews Monday morning in which they slammed [Sleezebag]. Khizr Khan spoke at the Democratic National Convention last week, with his wife at his side. The couple’s son, Army Capt. Humayun Khan, was killed by a car bomber in 2004. He was 27.

“This candidate amazes me — his ignorance,” Khizr Khan said on NBC’s “Today.” “He can get up and malign the entire nation — the religions, the communities, the minorities, the judges. And yet, a private citizen in this political process, in his candidacy for the stewardship for this country — I cannot say what I feel? That proves the point: He has not read the Constitution of this country.”

Ghazala Khan, who teared up in one interview, rejected [Sleezebag]’s suggestion in an interview with ABC News that she may not have been “allowed” to speak during her Democratic National Convention appearance.

[In [Sleezebag] clash with Khan, hints of new cultural and political rift] 

“It doesn’t have to do anything with my religion,” she said on “Today.” She wrote in a Washington Post op-ed that she is still experiencing raw emotions about her son’s death and could not bring herself to speak at the convention.

[Sleezebag] took to Twitter on Monday morning to lash out against Khizr Khan and the media. He argued that “radical Islamic terrorism,” not Khan, should be the focus of his exchange — just minutes after slamming Khan.

“Mr. Khan, who does not know me, viciously attacked me from the stage of the DNC and is now all over TV doing the same — Nice!” [Sleezebag] said in his initial tweet.

On Saturday, [Sleezebag] issued a statement saying, “While I feel deeply for the loss of his son, Mr. Khan who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution, (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things.”

Corey Lewandowski, [Sleezebag]’s former campaign manager, defended his ex-boss Monday and argued that the Khans’ son would still be alive if [Sleezebag] had been president.

“Their son is a hero. And every person who has ever died fighting for our country and their families are heroes,” Lewandowski said on CNN, which employs him as a paid contributor. “The difference is, we’ve got 7,000 soldiers who died, $6 trillion wasted in wars overseas and, if Donald [Sleezebag] was the president, we would never have had, and Captain Khan would be alive today.”

[Sleezebag] regularly casts himself as an early critic of the Iraq War. The Post’s Fact Checker found that there is “no sign that [Sleezebag] opposed the invasion or was vocal about it prior to the invasion.”

Lewandowski was fired by [Sleezebag] in June.

Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton has vigorously defended the Khans. She tweeted a link to Ghazala Khan’s op-ed on Sunday night with the words: “Your courage is inspiring, Mrs. Khan — and you’re right.”

Family members of 17 service members killed in the line of duty wrote a letter to [Sleezebag] calling his comments about the Khan family “repugnant” and demanding an apology. The letter was coordinated by Karen Meredith of the group VoteVets, which is aligned with Democratic candidates.

Late Sunday, [Sleezebag] supporters, including longtime adviser Roger Stone, circulated unsubstantiated accusations from an anti-Islam website about Khizr Khan. Stone tweeted a link to a post that, among other things, accuses Khan of being a “Muslim Brotherhood agent who wants to advance sharia law.”

Both Khans forcefully denounced terrorism Sunday, and Ghazala Khan said [Sleezebag] is ignorant when it comes to understanding Muslims. “If he studied the real Islam and Koran, all the ideas he gets from terrorists would change, because terrorism is a different religion,” she wrote.




Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1782 on: August 02, 2016, 12:29:58 AM »
YOU CAN"T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.

-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/]http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/31/politics/donald-[Sleezebag]-russia-ukraine-crimea-putin/

[Sleezebag] says Putin is 'not going to go into Ukraine,' despite Crimea

By Eric Bradner and David Wright, CNN
Updated 4:30 PM ET, Mon August 1, 2016


Washington (CNN) — Donald [Sleezebag] said Sunday that Russian President Vladimir Putin won't make a military move into Ukraine -- even though Putin already has done just that, seizing the country's Crimean Peninsula.

"He's not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He's not going to go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want," [Sleezebag] said in an interview on Sunday with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week."

"Well, he's already there, isn't he?" Stephanopoulos responded, in a reference to Crimea, which Putin took from Ukraine in early 2014.

[Sleezebag] said: "OK -- well, he's there in a certain way. But I'm not there. You have Obama there. And frankly, that whole part of the world is a mess under Obama with all the strength that you're talking about and all of the power of NATO and all of this. In the meantime, he's going away. He takes Crimea."

[Sleezebag] attempted to clarify his position on the conflict between Ukraine and Russia in a series of tweets Monday morning, after he was criticized for his muddled response in the interview. He explained that when he said Russia wouldn't move into Ukraine, he was referring to a time when he is president.

"When I said in an interview that Putin is 'not going into Ukraine, you can mark it down,' I am saying if I am President. Already in Crimea!," [Sleezebag] wrote.
And he argued that the conflict over Crimea was the fault of the Obama administration, writing: "So with all of the Obama tough talk on Russia and the Ukraine, they have already taken Crimea and continue to push. That's what I said!"

[Sleezebag] also pushed back against the criticism during a campaign event Monday in Columbus, Ohio.

"You want to go back? You want to go back and have World War 3? That was on Obama's watch," [Sleezebag] said of the invasion.

[Sleezebag] also responded to criticism that he has been too complimentary of Russian President Vladimir Putin: "Wouldn't it be great if we got along with Russia?" he said.

During the ABC interview, Stephanopoulos interjected to note that [Sleezebag] has suggested he could recognize Russia's claim on Crimea over Ukraine's -- and [Sleezebag] didn't back away from that possibility in the interview.

"I'm going to take a look at it," he said. "But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also ... just so you understand, that was done under Obama's administration."

[Sleezebag] added: "And as far as the Ukraine is concerned, it's a mess. And that's under the Obama's administration with his strong ties to NATO. So with all of these strong ties to NATO, Ukraine is a mess. Crimea has been taken. Don't blame Donald [Sleezebag] for that."

The Clinton campaign responded later Sunday, with senior policy adviser Jake Sullivan saying: "What is he talking about? Russia is already in Ukraine. Does he not know that? What else doesn't he know?"

"Today, ([Sleezebag]) gamely repeated Putin's argument that Russia was justified in seizing the sovereign territory of another country by force. This is scary stuff," Sullivan said in a statement. "But it shouldn't surprise us. This comes on the heels of his tacit invitation to the Russians to invade our NATO allies in Eastern Europe."


Stephanopoulos also pressed [Sleezebag] on changes to the Republican platform removing calls for the provision of lethal weapons so the people of Ukraine can defend themselves, which [Sleezebag] said he had nothing to do with.

And he asked about [Sleezebag]'s claims in recent years that he has a personal relationship with Putin.

"I have no relationship with Putin. I have no relationship with Putin," [Sleezebag] said.

"Just so you understand, he said very nice things about me. But I have no relationship with him. I don't -- I've never met him," said [Sleezebag].

But in a November 2015 Republican primary debate, [Sleezebag] had said of Putin: "I got to know him very well because we were both on '60 Minutes,' we were stablemates."

CNN's Jeremy Diamond contributed to this report.



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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1783 on: August 02, 2016, 12:19:48 PM »
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1784 on: August 02, 2016, 09:25:23 PM »
We have terrible people on my forum.  Tut tut.



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"While I disagree with her on many issues, I will vote for Mrs. Clinton," Hanna said in an op-ed for Syracuse.com, adding that GOP candidate Donald [Sleezebag] is "deeply flawed in endless ways."
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