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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1650 on: July 15, 2016, 04:26:13 AM »
 ;goofy; Chimp. ;goofy;

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1651 on: July 15, 2016, 04:30:27 AM »
The Indystar, CNN and NBC all have claimed that Mike is going  to be the VP pick, although NBC did add this
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[Sleezebag] maintained during an interview on Thursday evening that he has not made a "final, final decision," although sources with knowledge of the pick told NBC News Pence would be [Sleezebag]'s ultimate choice. He also indicated that he will announce tomorrow when the rescheduled VP announcement will be held.


So, does that mean that he will have more than one final VP pick???
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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1652 on: July 15, 2016, 04:37:14 AM »
I think T rump is just playing for publicity.

Pence suddenly dropping out of a re-election campaign for governor seems to indicate that he was told that he was the choice.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2016, 05:48:49 AM by Rusty Edge »

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1653 on: July 15, 2016, 04:42:30 AM »
Maybe [Sleezebag] is going to do something like at the final canidates for The Apprentice RTV show....  SNL could do a great skit with the top picks....  And throw in a Sara Palin look alike for some good previously eliminated video diary shots...  :p

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1654 on: July 15, 2016, 05:05:54 AM »
Politifact just checked Johnson's claim and found it mostly true.

 

Gary Johnson

"(Mexican immigrants) are more law-abiding than U.S. citizens and that is a statistic."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/14/gary-johnson/mexican-immigrants-more-law-abiding/

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1655 on: July 15, 2016, 06:11:58 AM »
A new CBS/NYTimes  poll has both @ 40%. Still tied with Johnson ( 12%)  included.

Hillary's trustworthiness took a hit. The Millenials are bailing on her. Not long ago, Hillary was nearly 80 to 20 odds to win and steady at Silver's 528. Now she's slipped to about 66 to 33.

[Sleezebag] should get a "bounce" from the convention next week. So should Hillary when her turn comes.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1656 on: July 15, 2016, 05:32:10 PM »
Here's an article that ties things together- the Quinnipiac  poll Buncle didn't trust, and what I noticed last night- if the popular vote is tightening up, Clinton is pulling away on the electoral vote.

http://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/2016/07/15/new-swing-state-poll-clinton-leads-big-every-swing-state/

New Swing State Poll: Clinton Leads BIG in Every Swing State

Posted at 11:05 am on July 15, 2016 by Leon H. Wolf

Earlier this week, Quinnipiac released a swing state poll showing [Sleezebag] tied with Clinton in Ohio and leading comfortably in Florida and Pennsylvania. I poked some fun at the obvious problems with the poll's internals on Twitter, and the [Sleezebag] supporters accused me of trying to "unskew" the poll. Okay. Fine. I guess we have to accept that all the polls are right and none of them have patently bogus samples anymore.

Which is bad news for [Sleezebag] because this NBC/WSJ/Marist poll shows him getting trucked in states that really are swing states any GOP candidate absolutely has to win: North Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, and Florida. The poll shows Clinton leading [Sleezebag] by 6 in North Carolina, 7 in Florida, 8 in Colorado, and 9 in Virginia. Throwing Johnson into the mix reduces Clinton's lead by about 1 point in each state.

If these results are accurate, they portend about a 40-state win for Clinton in November. Which, if I had to guess, is what will likely happen. I am not really sure that they are an accurate representation of where the race stands today, and I'd be tempted to go into the cross tabs and find possible obvious errors, but I don't want to be accused of denying reality when it's right in front of my face.



Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1657 on: July 16, 2016, 01:24:33 AM »
Well, Silver did do a piece which stated that Pence was [Sleezebag]'s "least bad" option. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-times-mike-pence-brushed-off-science/?ex_cid=2016-forecast

Jul 15, 2016 at 2:29 PM


Two Times Mike Pence Brushed Off Science
By Anna Maria Barry-Jester

Filed under 2016 Election
As my boss Nate Silver wrote Thursday, most people in the U.S. don’t know much about Indiana Gov. Mike Pence, Donald [Sleezebag]’s vice-presidential pick. That’s likely not the case among public health professionals, given Pence’s rather notorious recent history with public health policy.

Take, for example, an ongoing outbreak of HIV in southern Indiana. From December 2014 to May of this year, 191 cases of HIV, nearly all linked to the injection of the painkiller Opana, were found in Scott County, a rural area near the Kentucky border. Before the outbreak, there had been numerous deaths and known risks from the increase in injection drug use in the area for several years. Pence had long been a vocal opponent of needle exchange programs, which allow drug users to trade in used syringes for sterile ones in order to stop the spread of diseases, despite evidence that they work. Such programs were banned in the state when the outbreak started.

At the end of March last year, four months after the outbreak began, Pence declared a public health emergency, allowing needle exchanges to be opened in Scott County. Scott County Health Officer Dr. R. Kevin Rogers described the program as having “a tremendously positive and dramatic impact” and recently made a successful request to have the program extended until May 2017. At least four other counties have been allowed to start programs as well. Still, Pence hasn’t moved to lift the state ban on funding for needle exchanges and has made it clear in the past that he would veto any bill that tried to lift the ban statewide.

Pence has also shown a deep misunderstanding of basic public health principles in the past. In 2001, he wrote an op-ed declaring that “smoking doesn’t kill.” The evidence? “Two out of three smokers does not die from a smoking related illness.” Diseases are rarely the product of one thing. With lung cancer, for example, there’s a strong genetic component. Some people who don’t smoke will get lung cancer.1 Many people who do smoke will not. Relative risk, which measures the strength of the relationship between an exposure and a health outcome (smoking and lung cancer in this instance), is a funny thing; it can’t be used to measure the risk for an individual, only a group. And at that macro level, the risk of smoking is quite clear, as this oft-cited American Cancer Society chart shows.

Lung cancer isn’t even the most common negative health outcome from smoking. That distinction goes to vascular diseases that cause heart disease and/or stroke, and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.

Pence’s home state of Indiana should be particularly concerned about tobacco: 23 percent of adults are smokers, the sixth-highest statewide rate in the United States. Fifteen percent of pregnant women smoke, nearly double the national average, and the state spent $2.93 billion in 2014 on health costs caused by cigarette smoking — more per capita than 31 other states, according to the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. Still, Indiana has a cigarette tax of just 99 cents,2 lower than 35 other states, despite a wealth of evidence showing that increasing taxes on tobacco reduces smoking rates.

When a tobacco tax hike was proposed this year in Indiana, Pence made it clear that he was not in favor. The tax increase was subsequently taken out of the bill.

All that said, Pence’s track record on public health likely won’t have an effect on the election. Only 37 percent of registered voters said that health care was extremely important to determining who they would vote for this election season, according to a Kaiser Family Foundation poll released Friday.


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1658 on: July 16, 2016, 02:11:22 AM »
Chimp.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1659 on: July 16, 2016, 02:50:38 AM »
You gotta admit that [Sleezebag]'s nationalism, racism, sexism, and religious intolerance are strangely balanced by Pence's anti LBGT bigotry.  It makes the ticket even more exclusive.

What do they call that in horse racing? The quintilla? ....No, that's when you get 5 things right.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1660 on: July 16, 2016, 03:35:02 AM »
What do you call it when two monkeys throw their poop and the poops collide and cancel each other out?

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1661 on: July 16, 2016, 05:42:53 AM »
An political campaign?

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1662 on: July 16, 2016, 01:35:02 PM »
In England, yes.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1663 on: July 16, 2016, 06:12:40 PM »
The Toilet Paper team?


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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1664 on: July 16, 2016, 06:31:36 PM »
https://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/logofail-trumppence-campaign-scrubs-screw-you-branding-after-one-day-of-massive-ridicule/

I can imagine [Sleezebag]'s reactions. 1) I love it! The artist is a genius. 2) I hate it! The artist is a fornicating idiot!

 

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