US Presidential Contenders

[Buster's Uncle]

You just saved the Libertarians' shot at the big leagues, if Rusty can spread that idea far enough in time...

[Rusty Edge]

I relayed it to Gary's face book page.

[Buster's Uncle]

Nice sig.

[Rusty Edge]

Today's gleanings-

*... stuff...

Had to LOL, a lot of what I said over at WPC in response to one of the regulars over there matches up with what you were saying, although I left a lot of the detail out as I was doing a specific response to someone.  Just a lot of my own thoughts in there is all. 

BTW, I doubt she will ever be indited for being a traitor (Libya & emails, et all), nor will her foundation ever really be audited, as it is basically their pocket book, and they have too many friends (or at least people who don't want the skellies dug out of their own closets).

Well, it's always nice to know that somebody reached a similar conclusion.


I hope you're right about Hillary. Because as much as I hate her, or maybe because I hate her, all I want her to do is get out of my television and go away.  Before anybody says anything, my wife likes to watch TV, and operates the remote. Happy wife, happy life.

[Rusty Edge]

Nice sig.

Thanks. I think I owe Uno a consulting fee.

[Buster's Uncle]

What did you say on Johnson's FB page?  His campaign keeping it simple and short is KEY...

[Rusty Edge]

I lost my post.

Anyway I can't find my post on his facebook page, but it's a pretty crowded place, and I typed an extra R in his name. Somebody try's to keep the links to his interviews on the top.

I said something like my friends are convinced now, and they say you need to get this message out - (see sigline) .


Generally he does a pretty good job of thanking people for their support on facebook. But things are getting busy. From his previous run for president he learned a few things- 1) The GOP doesn't want him. 2)  He sucks at fundraising. ( hence teaming up with Bill Weld ) 3) He needs to be included in the polling 4) He needs to be on the debate stage. If he can deal with those things, he can win in a year where anything can happen.

He knows he got a big surge in activity when Cruz dropped out. He's anticipating a huge influx when Bernie does as well. He's been going around telling his isidewith.com story. He sides with himself 100% of the time, but the next Closest is Bernie at 73% . There's a T in the road when it comes to economics, but they generally agree on civil liberties, foreign policy, and  crony capitalism. He says he believes most Americans are Libertarians, and don't know it. In broad terms, fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

We've never elected a 3rd Party candidate, but we've never elected an ex-president's wife or a reality TV star either. That is about to change.

[Rusty Edge]

Primary reports-
Sanders- North Dakota
Clinton-  New Jersey, South Dakota, Montana, New Mexico

California is still being counted.

[Buster's Uncle]

[Rusty Edge]

Today's Gleanings.
*Hillary will be the first woman to become a major party candidate for president.

*Bernie vows to fight on to the convention on behalf of the working families of America.

*Republicans denounced [Sleezebag]. One US Senator and one state senator -un-endorsed him.

*[Sleezebag] released a statement saying he's not racist, he's got lots of Mexican friends. The judge is being unfair to him, anybody else would have dismissed this case and they're only after him because he's running for president, and the judge was appointed by Obama, etc. [Sleezebag] will not speak of this again!

*As previously stated, Johnson is now being tracked by Politifact.

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So, 1) he secured the Libertarian nomination, which should put him on the ballot in all fifty states. Most are approved or in process, with a couple left. 2) He teamed with Bill Weld, for fund raising and have the support of the newly formed Alternative PAC. 3) Now with Politifact listing and averaging the polls that include him ....step 4) is crossing and sustaining to circa Labor Day the 15% threshold for the Commission on Presidential Debates, so as to be included, OR 5) winning the lawsuit filed jointly by the Libertarians and the Greens saying the 15% threshold is too high.

Personally, I think that any legally qualified candidate polling in double digits and ballot access in states totaling 270 electoral college votes has a theoretical chance and should be included in the official debates. The commission was formed in '88 ( when Perot ran )when the Dems and GOP made demands of the League of Women Voters that they considered fraud against the American people. Since most judges are Democrats or Republicans, don't hold your breath on that lawsuit being settled this year in time for the debates.  I'm confident Johnson can exceed 15%. I think he'll peak higher than that. Whether he can hold that through to Labor Day considering that the Greens are holding the door open for Bernie and don't convene until August, after the July conventions of the Democrats and Republicans remains to be seen in a year where anything can happen, and already has.

[Rusty Edge]

Sorry to see that myself. Clinton is ahead roughly 60/40 with 1/3rd reporting. I've been to CA several times, but I haven't a clue which counties are which, and how they would break between Hillary and Bernie. So I'm not watching the tallies on TV. I think my wife would rather watch The Bachelorette than Hillary and a Socialist.

[Unorthodox]

He says he believes most Americans are Libertarians, and don't know it. In broad terms, fiscally conservative and socially liberal.

That's the other thing he's going to struggle with.  What IS a libertarian?  One of them fringe nutjob parties.  Extremists.  etc.  That's the PERCEPTION.  He's gotta sell the brand eventually.  First he's gotta get on stage, and that mean name/face recognition. 

This is a good year to sell the libertarian as the common sense party.  Let the dems and reps go down and dirty on each other as long as possible, and come out as the common sense in a world of crap politics.  There's a timing issue on this, though.  I'm not sure WHEN it would be best to start selling that, as giving Trumpillary a common enemy will be a bad thing, so it's likely a short term gain, plant the seed of thought into people for the future scenario, but it needs to be done. 

[Rusty Edge]

Yeah, it's a big job, and timing is critical.

https://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson/videos/vb.165297924363/10153136575584364/?type=2&theater

[Unorthodox]

No, he's got that all wrong. 

Clearly targeting bernie's folk, but it's terribly off still.  The whole aw shucks demeanor followed by the smooth jazz out music is all wrong.  Get some fire in the speech dude!  He don't sound ready to fight anyone.

The (slightly modified) slogan was stuck in there though!   

[Unorthodox]

His campaign keeping it simple and short is KEY...

That's where he's failing in the video. 

Too long, too much garbage about Clinton.  Cut that video to a third, stick to:  Still feeling the Bern? WE can still FIGHT.  Libertarian party will be on the ballot in all 50 states.  There IS another option!  Google me and make your voices heard.