US Presidential Contenders

[Unorthodox]

Sanders should run 3rd party...

[Buster's Uncle]

Really he shouldn't.

[Unorthodox]

I think Clinton loses a negative campaign to [Sleezebag] anyway, so I'm not worried about splitting the Dem vote. 

[Buster's Uncle]

Faith isn't exactly the right word for it, but I think when it's time to vote for keepsies, people will stop playing with their own poop.  Not even going to be close.

[Unorthodox]

Never underestimate the stupidity of people. 

"A person is smart.  People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals."  Kay - Men in Black. 

[Unorthodox]

More to my point.  I'm doubling down on my original statement on the whole scenario.  [Sleezebag] is not going away.  You can't go negative on him as that's his ballgame.  The only way to beat him is to wear him down on the actual issues (it's the only time ANYONE had success on him in the primaries, btw, as I predicted.  But then they forgot) that he is in NO WAY ready to give competent answers to. 

HOWEVER, The Dems are ALREADY going negative on him, playing his game.  With a (presumptive) candidate that has just as many negatives, no less.  They are playing right into his hand, and it's a losing prospect. 

[Buster's Uncle]

They've been doing that since Reagan - playing the other guy's game and losing, the idiots.

[Rusty Edge]

Finally!

Real Clear Politics is tracking Johnson in the polls with an 8.5% average. Double that, and he's in the debates.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5949.html

As for the latest poll, it was taken in Utah-
[Sleezebag]    29%
Clinton   26%
Johnson 16% ( presumably he's better known here, close to New Mexico )
Other     29% ( presumably mostly Romney holdouts )

Even so, 16% is a respectable for Johnson when he has to compete against "Other".

http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/07/gary-johnson-polls-16-in-utah

[Buster's Uncle]

"Other" is pretty dang popular this year...

[Rusty Edge]

More to my point.  I'm doubling down on my original statement on the whole scenario.  T rump is not going away.  You can't go negative on him as that's his ballgame.  The only way to beat him is to wear him down on the actual issues (it's the only time ANYONE had success on him in the primaries, btw, as I predicted.  But then they forgot) that he is in NO WAY ready to give competent answers to. 

HOWEVER, The Dems are ALREADY going negative on him, playing his game.  With a (presumptive) candidate that has just as many negatives, no less.  They are playing right into his hand, and it's a losing prospect.

What you say often reminds me a lot of Scott Adams' blog  ( the creator of Dilbert). Perhaps not the same perspective, but equally provocative, and prescient. He has a background in hypnosis, and constantly makes the point that people are irrational, that [Sleezebag] understands that, and is a Master Persuader.

Mostly he just explains why what [Sleezebag] said works, and why what Hillary or whoever said fails.
Here's a recent one.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/145456082991/my-endorsement-for-president-of-the-united-states

[Spacy]

Today's gleanings-

*... stuff...

Had to LOL, a lot of what I said over at WPC in response to one of the regulars over there matches up with what you were saying, although I left a lot of the detail out as I was doing a specific response to someone.  Just a lot of my own thoughts in there is all. 

BTW, I doubt she will ever be indited for being a traitor (Libya & emails, et all), nor will her foundation ever really be audited, as it is basically their pocket book, and they have too many friends (or at least people who don't want the skellies dug out of their own closets). 

[Unorthodox]

Finally!

Real Clear Politics is tracking Johnson in the polls with an 8.5% average. Double that, and he's in the debates.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson-5949.html

As for the latest poll, it was taken in Utah-
T rump    29%
Clinton   26%
Johnson 16% ( presumably he's better known here, close to New Mexico )
Other     29% ( presumably mostly Romney holdouts )

Even so, 16% is a respectable for Johnson when he has to compete against "Other".

http://reason.com/blog/2016/06/07/gary-johnson-polls-16-in-utah

The never [Sleezebag] contingent is strong in Utah.  Many think Hillary would win the state if it come down to it. 

[Unorthodox]

FWIW,  if I didn't have this thread, I wouldn't know who Johnson is. 

He's got a megacrapton of ground to make up if he's going to make a serious splash.  I don't know HOW to get the numbers up in order to be in the debate, but he's got to do something. 

A series of "There IS a third option" type TV ads might not be misplaced.  (or maybe Utah just isn't worth spending money on) 

[Buster's Uncle]

A series of "There IS a third option" type TV ads might not be misplaced.

I don't know if God Almighty Himself could get Johnson elected, but enough of those commercials you describe -in a way, nothing but a pic of him with his name on it and that slogan, 5 second spots, would be best- alone would guarantee 15-20 % in the general and a foot in the door for the Libertarians in the future...

[Unorthodox]

Right, he just needs the 16% to get in the debates.  That ALONE would be a huge victory. 

Picture, Name, There IS a third option! 


Hell, give me the yard sign with name and slogan now.  Bumper stickers will sell themselves.