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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1275 on: May 22, 2016, 09:19:23 PM »
If only I could extract myself and Buster from this dystopian nightmare timeline, I would leave the electorate to what they deserve, not without regret, but without hesitation.

It Can Happen Here.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1276 on: May 23, 2016, 01:17:22 AM »
Usually I draw comparisons with Il Duce, but maybe the Kim Clan of North Korea could be illuminating as well, after all, they have an eye for lovely ladies, and launched a cyber attack against Sony because they made an unflattering movie. Sounds like something a counterpuncher who doesn't take anything off of the table might do.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1277 on: May 23, 2016, 01:23:29 AM »
I am ashamed to be on the same planet.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1278 on: May 23, 2016, 10:35:25 PM »
-immigration-policy-comparison-to-kristallnacht/]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/william-weld-sticks-to-donald-[Sleezebag]-immigration-policy-comparison-to-kristallnacht/

By/ Rebecca Shabad/ CBS News/ May 23, 2016, 11:22 AM

William Weld sticks to Donald [Sleezebag] immigration policy comparison to Kristallnacht

Former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld is sticking to his comparison of Donald [Sleezebag]'s immigration plan to Kristallnacht, a major turning point in the Holocaust.

In an interview on CNN's "State of the Union" on Sunday, Weld was asked if it was a little strong to talk about the Holocaust and [Sleezebag].

"No, no, no, I don't think so. I served five years on the U.S. Holocaust Commission, by appointment of President George W. Bush," Weld said. " I'm absolutely certain that, as we said in those years, if we don't remember, we absolutely will forget. And you got to forget a lot of things to think it's a good idea to round up and deport 11 million people living peaceably, most of them working, in America, in the middle of the night."

Last Thursday, The New York Times published a story about Weld after interviewing him. Referring to [Sleezebag]'s plan to round up and deport the roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants in the U.S., Weld said, "I can hear the glass crunching on Kristallnacht in the ghettos of Warsaw and Vienna when I hear that, honest."

Weld was then asked if [Sleezebag] is a fascist.

"My Kristallnacht analogy does evoke the Nazi period in Germany," he said. "And that's what I'm worried about -- a slippery slope."

"No, I wouldn't call Mr. [Sleezebag] either a fascist or a Nazi...I'm just saying, we got to watch it when we get exclusionary about people on account of their status as a member of a group," said Weld, who has joined the Libertarian ticket as Gary Johnson's running mate.

Kristallnacht, also known as the "Night of Broken Glass," was a wave of anti-Jewish violence by the Nazis on November 8 and 9 in 1938 in Germany as well as parts of Austria and Czechoslovakia. They smashed shop windows of businesses owned by Jews, destroyed 267 synagogues across those countries and arrested up to 30,000 Jewish men and transferred them to concentration camps, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

The event was considered a major turning point in the Holocaust and led to anti-Jewish legislation, deportations and Hitler's "Final Solution" to exterminate European Jews.

[Sleezebag], the presumptive GOP nominee, has never talked about committing violent acts to round up people in the U.S. to deport them. Instead, he has said that the deportations would happen in a "humane" way.

[Sleezebag] has come under fire, however, for controversial remarks he has made about Mexican immigrants when he called them "rapists" and said they're "killing thousands of people."

Last September, [Sleezebag] said that, if he's elected, it would take his administration up to two years to deport all of the undocumented immigrants in the U.S. [Sleezebag] has defended his plan by alluding to one implemented by President Dwight Eisenhower that supposedly deported more than a million undocumented immigrants in the 1950s -- that initiative was called "Operation [illegal immigrant]."

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I don't like the idea of breaking up families, no matter how "humanely" it's done.

If I didn't already share the views, I'd give these Libertarian guys another look.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1279 on: May 23, 2016, 11:21:07 PM »
I think when an appointee to anything by the Cheney administration -which tends to make one a grease-truck driver on the face of it- starts comparing you to Hitler and saying "slippery slope", you'd better go have a good long look in a full-length mirror...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1280 on: May 24, 2016, 01:37:52 AM »
Well, I'm sure that the egomaniac looks in the mirror, but obviously he doesn't see Cheetos colored skin with a ridiculous comb-over&around, or ties made with 3rd world labor.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1281 on: May 24, 2016, 02:38:41 AM »
Or hear himself saying "Class" and "Classy" with a meaning that's rather the opposite of what I understand it to mean - he uses the trashy-northern-urban-mobster definition that means loud/gaudy ostentation, which is, in fact, utterly without class, if not embarrassed for funding.  Money can't buy class, something he's spent a lifetime trying to do and claiming louder and more often than imaginable that he already had.

Nossir; he don't get it at all.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1282 on: May 24, 2016, 04:22:52 AM »
[fuddle-duddle] I hope he wins.   ;lol
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1283 on: May 24, 2016, 04:50:26 AM »
-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/05/18/fox-news-poll-[Sleezebag]-tops-clinton-both-seen-as-deeply-flawed-candidates.html

"Fox News Poll

Fox News Poll: [Sleezebag] tops Clinton, both seen as deeply flawed candidates



Dana Blanton

By  Dana Blanton 
 ·Published May 18, 2016
· FoxNews.com
 Donald [Sleezebag] tops Hillary Clinton in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, according to a new Fox News Poll that also finds majorities of voters feel both frontrunners lack strong moral values and will say anything to get elected.

[Sleezebag] has a 45-42 percent edge over Clinton, if the presidential election were held today.  That’s within the poll’s margin of sampling error.  Last month, Clinton was up by 48-41 percent (April 2016).



 

Clinton is ahead by 14 points among women (50-36 percent).  Yet [Sleezebag] leads by a larger 22 points among men (55-33 percent).

He also tops Clinton by 37 points (61-24 percent) among whites without a college degree (working-class whites).

CLICK HERE TO READ THE POLL RESULTS

Overall, [Sleezebag] is preferred by 24 points among whites (55-31 percent).  He’s even ahead by nine among white women (47-38 percent).


[The site is being cut&paste resistant. ]

Pollpourri

What about former Republican governor of New Mexico, Gary Johnson, who is favored to top the Libertarian Party ticket?  He ran in 2012 and received almost one percent of the vote nationally."

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I give up! Despite what Op-Ed pieces from Huffington and National Review say about the Libertarian Effect, this poll says-

[Sleezebag] 42%
Hillary 39%
Johnson 10%

People hardly know who Johnson is at this stage. That's a descent showing for a third party guy who hasn't secured his nomination as yet.

The FOX page is interesting for what it says about the negatives of the two Republicrats. overall they lack honesty, empathy, integrity, moral conviction, and will say anything to win, etc.
Clinton wins most corrupt 49-37, but otherwise they're amazingly competitive in their unpopular qualities.



 



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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1284 on: May 24, 2016, 04:54:54 AM »
[fuddle-duddle] I hope he wins.   ;lol

Yeah, then the joke will be on us. Don't laugh too loud, though. He's a vindictive SOB, maybe he'll be a vindictive SOB with nukes.

Darn. I just realized I want to play against him and Hillary in Civ VI !

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1285 on: May 24, 2016, 03:52:55 PM »

T rump 42%
Hillary 39%
Johnson 10%

People hardly know who Johnson is at this stage. That's a descent showing for a third party guy who hasn't secured his nomination as yet.


That's more a poll of who will vote for ANYONE but Hillary/[Sleezebag].  Little to do with who the third name is. 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1286 on: May 24, 2016, 04:00:33 PM »
And it's a Fox poll as reported by Fox.  There's billions of ways to rig a poll and skew the reporting of the results w/o even trying or being deliberately dishonest.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1287 on: May 24, 2016, 04:05:45 PM »
[fuddle-duddle] I hope he wins.   ;lol

What can you tell us of immigration policies down there? 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1288 on: May 24, 2016, 05:15:03 PM »
And it's a Fox poll as reported by Fox.  There's billions of ways to rig a poll and skew the reporting of the results w/o even trying or being deliberately dishonest.

What he said.   Fox and Rasmussen routinely use push polling to distort their poll results to favor the side they like.   538 has done some great statistical analysis about which polling compa ies have the most accurate track records and which produce outlayers and Fox just doesn't have a good methodology (and that is probably intentional).

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1289 on: May 24, 2016, 05:44:44 PM »
...My degree's actually in broadcasting and I've worked in pro print journalism, and Fox News is an interesting case, not for its open bias but for its deep roots in infotainment trash TV...  In short, the technical production values are excellent, and the pseudo-journalism roots in Murdock's trash empire like A Current Affair inform the crapulence of the channel as deeply as its political side-taking, if not more.  Nobody talks much about the trashy stupid of it when they're bitching about the overt slant...

Murdock is directly the Father of what Rusty calls "post-journalism politics" that we are now living in fear of.

 

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