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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #990 on: March 15, 2016, 01:32:56 AM »
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Local T rump supporter says she’s facing harassment, vandalism

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WASHINGTON — Someone has stolen the Donald T rump signs from her yard, spray-painted her house with messages and a motorcyclist stopped to threaten her life.

But a Gainesville, Virginia, woman says that while she’s frightened and exhausted by the ordeal, she won’t be intimidated. Judy Beaty, 70, has put up more T rump yard signs.

She says she’s been told by Virginia State Police that they will provide additional security measures.

“I can’t even tell you how hard it is to deal with something like this.  I feel like I’m very violated, at this point, and very threatened,” says Beaty.

She awoke Wednesday morning to find the T rump signs gone and her neat, white house spray painted with the words “revolution” and “can you see the new world through the tear gas.”

She says she would be less frightened if the incident stopped there, but the threats have continued.

“I get all these nut cases riding by here going, ‘Feel the Bern,’ ‘[Expletive] the T rump signs.’ I had one guy, yesterday, telling me I was going to die,” Beaty says.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #991 on: March 15, 2016, 02:29:04 AM »
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Local T rump supporter says she’s facing harassment, vandalism

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WASHINGTON — Someone has stolen the Donald T rump signs from her yard, spray-painted her house with messages and a motorcyclist stopped to threaten her life.

But a Gainesville, Virginia, woman says that while she’s frightened and exhausted by the ordeal, she won’t be intimidated. Judy Beaty, 70, has put up more T rump yard signs.

She says she’s been told by Virginia State Police that they will provide additional security measures.

“I can’t even tell you how hard it is to deal with something like this.  I feel like I’m very violated, at this point, and very threatened,” says Beaty.

She awoke Wednesday morning to find the T rump signs gone and her neat, white house spray painted with the words “revolution” and “can you see the new world through the tear gas.”

She says she would be less frightened if the incident stopped there, but the threats have continued.

“I get all these nut cases riding by here going, ‘Feel the Bern,’ ‘[Expletive] the T rump signs.’ I had one guy, yesterday, telling me I was going to die,” Beaty says.



This makes me sad. What kind of coward picks on a 70 year old woman?

Offline Unorthodox

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #992 on: March 15, 2016, 01:02:30 PM »
T Rump.  (I know, unintended oddity of the formatting)

I like...

Sign stealing is fairly standard practice around elections I believe.  The rest of it, however. 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #993 on: March 15, 2016, 01:05:34 PM »
Oh wait, I see why the T rump now. 

Buncle.  Not cool.  ;waiting

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #994 on: March 15, 2016, 01:07:20 PM »
Oh, I can undo it if it's a big deal.  Check the hovertext first, though.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #995 on: March 15, 2016, 01:19:29 PM »
 :stop: Yeah.  Moderatering shouldn't auto-demean one particular view. 

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #996 on: March 15, 2016, 01:22:27 PM »
Not all views are born equal.  I'll take it down tonight.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #997 on: March 15, 2016, 01:24:04 PM »
Especially because changing it to T rump prevents my browser from changing it to Drumpf.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #998 on: March 15, 2016, 01:30:19 PM »
T rump sounds like an overweight backup dancer to rapper The Braggadocious T.R.U.M.P.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #999 on: March 15, 2016, 03:35:47 PM »
T rump sounds like an overweight backup dancer to rapper The Braggadocious T.R.U.M.P.

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I wonder whether or not the above error of T rump originates from the manipulation of symbolic messages by BUncle. I know it likely originates from an error in formatting, but the error appears convenient because it only occurs with the word "[Sleezebag]."
Edit: Okay, The error definitely stems from BUncle's manipulation of communication symbols on this forum.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1000 on: March 15, 2016, 03:41:49 PM »
It's not an error; it's a deliberate circumvention -which is deeply frowned upon- that will look dumb after I dump the joke tonight.

I do not apologize for having a sense of humor, nor for having it peek out at the end of a day in which I spent hours on tedious admin housekeeping chores.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1001 on: March 15, 2016, 08:54:13 PM »
Ah.  Finally daylight on the Yahoo Politics page.

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Win or lose, Bernie Sanders has changed Hillary Clinton
Liz Goodwin  Senior National Affairs Reporter  March 14, 2016



At the CNN Democratic debate in Flint, Mich., earlier this month, Bernie Sanders used his opening statement to call for the governor of Michigan to resign over the city’s lead crisis, a position Sanders staked out months ago.

“I believe the governor of [Michigan] should understand that his dereliction of duty was irresponsible. He should resign,” Sanders said.

When Hillary Clinton got her turn to open, she echoed Sanders’ stance for the first time.

“Amen to that,” she said. “I agree. The governor should resign or be recalled.”

This new position was a surprise to anyone who tuned in to the debate’s preshow, where Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that if the governor stepped down, it wouldn’t “make a difference in the everyday lives of the people” of Flint.

But the change shouldn’t have been too shocking, since Clinton has matched Sanders’ positions on a whole host of issues during the unexpectedly hard-fought Democratic contest between them — a tactic that has implications for the former secretary of state as she attempts to move past Sanders and position herself for the general election. Clinton calls Sanders a “single issue” candidate on the stump, but the 74-year-old senator from Vermont has pushed Clinton to the left on far more than Wall Street reform, his most high-profile campaign agenda.

“Bernie has had great success in getting Hillary Clinton to adopt his issues and his rhetoric during the course of this campaign,” Sanders’ chief strategist Tad Devine said after the Democratic debate in Miami last Wednesday. “Let’s talk about the [Trans-Pacific Partnership], for example, which she evolved from someone who praised it on the record 45 times and calling it the ‘gold standard’ of trade agreements to opposing it.”

Clinton says she changed her mind on the TPP after it evolved into a deal she couldn’t support. Her run against Sanders has put her in the awkward position of opposing free trade, when she has a long record of supporting trade deals. In the Miami debate, Clinton boasted that she “voted against the only multinational trade agreement that came before me when I was in the Senate.”

Devine also flagged the Keystone Pipeline, which Clinton initially supported and then later joined Sanders in opposing on environmental grounds. And then there’s Wall Street. Clinton has attempted to tap into the same populist anger that fuels Sanders’ campaign by talking tougher on big banks and America’s culture of corporate greed.

Clinton often reminds people that she called for better regulating of Wall Street starting at least in 2007, and that she’s not new to the issues of fighting income inequality and reining in corporate excess. But there’s no question that her rhetoric on the issue has sharpened in response to Sanders. After her victory in Nevada, Clinton delivered a tough message to “the men and women who run our country’s corporations.”

“If you cheat your employees, exploit consumers, pollute our environment, or rip off taxpayers, we’re going to hold you accountable,” she said. (Clinton added, however, that when CEOs contribute to the economy, she will stand with them.)

“I think that clearly she has responded to a lot of [Sanders’] statements and his focus, which moves her somewhat to the left. I don’t think there’s any question about that,” said Richard Riley, the former governor of South Carolina and education secretary under Bill Clinton. Riley is supporting Clinton.

“Saturday Night Live” recently spoofed this dynamic with a mock Clinton ad aimed at winning over Sanders’ young supporters. As the ad goes on, Clinton picks up more and more of Sanders’ verbal and physical tics. First, wire-rim glasses appear on her nose. Then, she’s in a dark blue suit, waving her hands next to her face and saying she’s “sick and tired of hearing about my own damn emails” in Sanders’ signature old-school Brooklyn accent.

“I’m whoever you want me to be, and I approve this message,” a physically transformed Clinton says at the end of the spoof.

To be fair, Sanders has also been forced to shift emphasis on certain policies by his opponent, particularly to court black and Latino voters, more natural constituencies for Clinton. His recent emphasis on criminal justice reform and Flint followed Clinton’s deeper commitment to those issues. Still, it is Sanders’ populist progressive challenge that is largely responsible for pushing the Democratic discourse to the left, even as the Republican candidates stake out positions further and further to the right.

In Miami, both candidates agreed they wanted to give all undocumented immigrants in the country citizenship, and both vowed to never deport children. Clinton said she didn’t want to deport any immigrants unless they were committing crimes or plotting terrorist attacks, insisting that she would not be as tough as the Obama administration on enforcing immigration law. Meanwhile, the Republican frontrunner supports mass deportation.

It’s conceivable that some of these Sanders-influenced positions could alienate more moderate Democrats or independents during the general election should Clinton beat Sanders (or that some Sanders supporters will not want to support Clinton even though she’s adopted some of his issues). But if Clinton faces off against Donald T rump, it’s likely that the controversial candidate will galvanize the left and center-left and soften the doubts of those lukewarm on Clinton. (Sixty percent of Americans have an unfavorable view of T rump, compared with 53 percent who don’t like Clinton, according to RealClearPolitics’ polling averages.)

And if she faces off against T rump, some of her more populist positions on trade could actually help her. “She probably would have had to move against free trade to a certain degree even without Sanders,” said Larry Sabato, director of the Center for Politics at the University of Virginia. “The Republicans seem to be questioning trade policy.”

Several of Clinton’s surrogates said they do not agree that Sanders has pushed her to the left, and they insist that there’s no position she’s staked out that will hurt her during the general election.

“I think everything that she’s proposed will be seen rightly as squarely in the mainstream as what Americans think are the big problems, and that includes reining in Wall Street. It includes getting big money out of politics,” said David Brock, founder of the pro-Clinton Correct the Record PAC.

Clinton has also hugged Obama tightly in the primary, painting Sanders as a critic of the president. Obama remains extremely popular with Democrats, so embracing his policies should also help in a general election.

“I think her alignment with the president is in keeping with most Democrats’ alignment, and she’s certainly not going to put at risk her base,” said Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, a Clinton supporter. “I don’t think she’s been caused to move as far left as some people might assume.”

“Every poll that I’ve seen, position by position, her position has been the majority position,” Malloy said. “So why should she change that?”

Perhaps more important, a single, populist-fueled primary season is not enough to erase the Clintons’ brand as center-left Democrats. One of the reasons the “SNL” skit is funny is that no one actually believes in the “radical” Hillary in the ad.

“You could still categorize her as center-left. She’s in the center, always. She always has been,” Riley said.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/win-or-lose-bernie-sanders-has-changed-hillary-155024964.html



Rusty, you get spared a picture of her because they messed up and displayed the SNL video twice in place of the leading photo.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1002 on: March 15, 2016, 09:03:13 PM »
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Is Ohio’s primary a presidential bellwether?
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Michael Walsh  Reporter  March 15, 2016



Ohio Gov. John Kasich after voting in the primary. (Photo: Matt Rourke/AP)



We’ve heard it before: Republicans need to win Ohio if they want to move to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. In fact, the state’s governor, John Kasich, likes to cite this as a reason why Republicans should support his presidential candidacy, despite his having lost in every other state so far.

Kasich argued that Ohioans have a history of picking the country’s presidents because they reject extremism in both parties.

“Ohio’s status as the national bellwether is not a reputation, it’s a fact. No Republican has ever won the White House without winning Ohio. Ever,” his campaign website reads.

That has been the case since the Republican Party began in 1854. But what does that mean for this year’s election?

Eric Ostermeier, a research associate at the University of Minnesota and founder of Smart Politics, says there is a lot of data to suggest that the battleground state is the ultimate bellwether in the general election: It has the current longest “winning streak” for voting for the winning presidential candidate in the general election. Since 1964, in 13 consecutive cycles, the candidate who won Ohio also won the White House.



Kasich in Westerville, Ohio, after casting his ballot. Will he be the “favorite son” who wins the primary and then the presidency? (Photo: Matt Rourke/AP)


“That’s the eighth longest streak in U.S. history, and if they do so again in 2016, that will be tied for the third longest ever, at 14 in a row,” Ostermeier said in an interview with Yahoo News. “So it’s a very long streak, especially in the modern political era.”

But that does not necessarily translate to the primary on Tuesday.

“The way I hear candidates talking about this, they are sort of conflating carrying Ohio in the primary versus the general election,” Ostermeier said. “It’s not been the case that Ohio has been a perfect bellwether in picking the party’s nominee.”

But, he noted, it has been true in the modern primary era. Each of the past 11 GOP nominees did win the Buckeye State primary — from Richard Nixon in 1972 to Mitt Romney in 2012. There are eight other states where this is true.

“On the continuum, it’s been more of a bellwether than most states,” Ostermeier said, “but there are caveats.” Before the modern era, there are many examples where this was not the case.

In 1912, former President Teddy Roosevelt won Ohio but lost the Republican nomination to friend-turned-foe and then incumbent President William Howard Taft (who was from Ohio).

Several “favorite son” candidates won the Ohio primary but never won the nomination, such as Ohio Sen. Robert Taft in 1940, 1948 and 1952 and Ohio Gov. James Rhodes in 1964 and 1968.

“That’s a different era of politics, and primaries did not have the weight that they do now,” Ostermeier said. “But it’s fair to say that in the modern primary era, the winner of the Ohio Republican primary has been the nominee.”

Although, he pointed out, in several of those cycles — especially in the 1970s and 1980s — Ohio held its contests much later in the calendar year (in May or June), so much of the drama had already passed and the nominee was essentially known. It wasn’t until the 1996 cycle that Ohio’s primary was moved to March.

From 1912 until 2012, there have been 26 presidential primaries in Ohio, so it’s a fairly small sample size and the conditions behind these elections have changed, so it’s somewhat difficult to draw hard and fast conclusions about its predictive power.

To say that this year’s Republican primary race has been unusual would be an understatement. The overcrowded field prevented many campaigns that might have wooed voters in other years from gaining traction. And boisterous real estate magnate Donald T rump’s ascent to the top of the pack vastly changed the tone of the debates and media coverage. With all these elements converging, many prognosticators and top brass in the Republican Party have been left scratching their heads — and wondering whether the old rules, like the one about Ohio, will still hold true.
https://www.yahoo.com/politics/is-ohios-primary-a-presidential-bellwether-184124853.html

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1003 on: March 15, 2016, 10:09:34 PM »
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T rump breaks 50% in national support for the first time

T rump breaks 50% in national support for the first time
Showing little sign of a "ceiling", Donald T rump has only grown in support with the exit of Ben Carson and Marco Rubio's collapse

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In the last two weeks, Republican frontrunner Donald T rump has won more delegates in primaries and caucuses, even while his opponents have launched new attacks and questions have been raised about his supporters.  The week’s Economist/YouGov Poll finds T rump still at the top of GOP voters’ preference with a wider lead, while Florida Senator Marco Rubio seems most damaged by the two weeks of attacks and counter-attacks.
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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #1004 on: March 15, 2016, 10:45:30 PM »
Cough cough lol.
Speaking of manners, this is rude and makes you look unsophisticated.  No more sentences ending in "lol" - and any further smilie use that can be taken as gloating is right out, too.
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T rump breaks 50% in national support for the first time

T rump breaks 50% in national support for the first time
Showing little sign of a "ceiling", Donald T rump has only grown in support with the exit of Ben Carson and Marco Rubio's collapse

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In the last two weeks, Republican frontrunner Donald T rump has won more delegates in primaries and caucuses, even while his opponents have launched new attacks and questions have been raised about his supporters.  The week’s Economist/YouGov Poll finds T rump still at the top of GOP voters’ preference with a wider lead, while Florida Senator Marco Rubio seems most damaged by the two weeks of attacks and counter-attacks.
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