US Presidential Contenders

[vonbach]

I pursued an English major for years.  Nobody--not parents, not friends, not college officials--warned me that it would be useless for getting a job.  I took it for granted that I'd find a job waiting for me when I graduated because nobody had ever told me any differently.  They all said college---->career.

College is a scam to get young people in debt. In a podcast I listen to a man was talking about his son trying to get a job.
He had a good technical degree in a valued field and it took his son months and over 2000 applications to find a job.
This sort of thing is one reason why people are sick of mass immigration. Why hire an American when you can get some
Pakistani on a work visa  who will work for half that?

Well, we don't really starve in this country.

Almost 20% of the country is on food stamps.

[Buster's Uncle]

[blinks]  Ignoring the previous, which I find to be 100% turns-out-not-to-be-the-case...

I subbed middle school some in 1992, and it was a revelation about teachers even though I was raised by one.  The money was pathetic, but it was pretty easy work, considering they kept giving me math and subjects I'm weak in, never English, Social Studies, History...

College, pro and con, is a subject worth getting into, but too big for this thread, I think...

[vonbach]

Ignoring the previous, which I find to be 100% turns-out-not-to-be-the-case...

There is a reason people are voting for [Sleezebag].  They hope he can get us out of this mess.

[Buster's Uncle]

HE's not the guy, von.  Do google that Bill Maher show video of him cussing in public.

[vonbach]

I'm not sure I care if he wins or loses. He's already done his job by moving the political pendulum to the right.
He's also brought the issues involved out in the open. [Sleezebag] really isn't that conservative, he's more of a moderate.
The reason the DC insider crowd is going insane is he's not a paid puppet like the rest. If he fails to get elected
than someone more conservative will come along.

[Buster's Uncle]

This is what it's come to, bin.  For all that even von himself admits he's an outlier, this is what it's come to.

-I left out earlier that I don't like Stalin at all - your reference to godwinizing is exactly right, because I think the main difference between him and Hitler is that he was a lot more successful at it.

[vonbach]

For all that even von himself admits he's an outlier, this is what it's come to.

What did they expect to happen? How much did they think we were going to take?
Of course the political pendulum is going to shift to the right thats what always happens.
[Sleezebag] is probably about as moderate as were going to get.

[Buster's Uncle]

...This is what it's come to...

[vonbach]

...This is what it's come to...

Yes. Worse means someone like Pinochet who will simply start giving people helicopter rides.
Or really worse means a civil war like Yugoslavia in a nuclear armed country of 300 million plus
people. Read Civil War 2 by Thomas Chittum.

[Buster's Uncle]

von, just so you know, I don't want to talk politics with you, ever -that's not personal, just a fact- and you put me, as host, in a bad position when you talk like that.  This evening's series of posts manage to at least not be infuriating/offensive, but the reality you live in is not reconcilable with the rest of us, you're not in any danger of persuading anyone here, and I just don't see any point to it, when it's neither entertaining nor educational.  It ends up being Serially Vexatious and little else.

The other guys can just choose not to engage you, but I don't feel like I have that luxury, as owner.  I'm out of ideas.  I'm rude to you constantly, far more than I'd allow someone else to be to someone else, and I hate Being That Guy on top of it.  I REALLY hate Being That Guy with the banhammer even more, just so you know - but I'm out of ideas.

Some of this is just the inevitable price of being an active member on a forum I manage without backup - there goes objectivity in tricky matters.  (But that's also why I'll still be here in two years doing the janitor work and be the only non-absentee forum owner I know of; it's a trade-off.)  Maybe I should ask Uno to moderate in here.  I'd have to let him be the Boss of Me in Rec Commons, but that would probably be a Good Thing...

Screw it; Uno?  You've offered several times - still game?

[Rusty Edge]

The Leader wins in Louisiana and Kentucky.
Cruz wins in Kansas and Maine.
Rubio is stuck in 3rd place, well, 4th in Maine, and The Leader is calling for him to drop out. 

I'm watching The Leader's press conference. The first 7 rows are [Sleezebag] supporters. There are no audience microphones, so The Leader is the only one who can hear/understand the questions, and he doesn't bother to repeat them he simply says what he wants to say, and the TV audience has no idea what he's responding to, or failing to respond to.

The journalists could fix this by refusing to show up or cover such a format. They should go to a legitimate conference held by some other candidate. Then, if The Leader wants free publicity, he'd change his ways.

It should come as no surprise that The Leader spent a lot of time criticizing his competition, praising his popularity, and still managed to say "Believe me".  If he had any news it's that he finally figured out that a third party campaign would mean that he couldn't win, and then the Democrats would appoint the next few Supreme Court justices.

That's right, The Donald, many people despise or fear you that much. They think that petty, vindictive people shouldn't have nuclear missiles, and they know how much you like to "fire".

Also, your disregard for the law is disturbing,  more so your insistence that others will break the law because you tell them to.

The Trust me, I have a plan, it'll be fabulous line is wearing thin. Your federal budget numbers don't add up.


They figure you will lead the party out of power if you get the nomination, and worse if you actually get elected, because of the expected mid-term reprisals. Damage that could last a generation.

[Buster's Uncle]

The Leader is probably better than the slurs I've been using in place of naming that person, if not as on-the-nose.  I do alienate people when I let my passion show too openly with the labeling, and you've actually got a gift for doing that right, Rusty...

[Unorthodox]

von, just so you know, I don't want to talk politics with you, ever -that's not personal, just a fact- and you put me, as host, in a bad position when you talk like that.  This evening's series of posts manage to at least not be infuriating/offensive, but the reality you live in is not reconcilable with the rest of us, you're not in any danger of persuading anyone here, and I just don't see any point to it, when it's neither entertaining nor educational.  It ends up being Serially Vexatious and little else.

The other guys can just choose not to engage you, but I don't feel like I have that luxury, as owner.  I'm out of ideas.  I'm rude to you constantly, far more than I'd allow someone else to be to someone else, and I hate Being That Guy on top of it.  I REALLY hate Being That Guy with the banhammer even more, just so you know - but I'm out of ideas.

Some of this is just the inevitable price of being an active member on a forum I manage without backup - there goes objectivity in tricky matters.  (But that's also why I'll still be here in two years doing the janitor work and be the only non-absentee forum owner I know of; it's a trade-off.)  Maybe I should ask Uno to moderate in here.  I'd have to let him be the Boss of Me in Rec Commons, but that would probably be a Good Thing...

Screw it; Uno?  You've offered several times - still game?

Provided you're comfortable with my philosophy in that arena. 

[Buster's Uncle]

We'll have to talk about that -since you can't ban me, for one thing- but let's give it a try.  There being no check on me when sisko isn't around has always been a problem, one that I was aware of before people complained.

[Unorthodox]

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gonna have to get use to seeing THAT everywhere.