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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #495 on: September 27, 2015, 09:58:13 PM »
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Clinton on email controversy: a 'drip, drip, drip' of revelations
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By John Whitesides  2 hours ago
Asked about the hit in polls, Clinton said "what I have tried to do in explaining this is provide more transparency and more information than anybody I'm aware of who has ever served in government."


I have to agree that it's a reaching, non-story of an attack on her...

...and she doesn't say this braggadociously.

She brought it on herself by dragging her feet, making excuses, nit-picking words, then eventually turning over everything, acting like a lawyer instead of a statesman.

I don't think there's anything criminal at the root of it, although there probably are some unflattering candid glimpses of the Real Hillary saying things like "my boss is a doody head" "Show me a Harvard grad and I'll show you an arrogant ignoramus" "Israel is a pain in my butt" "Why are democratic donors so clingy and stingy?" "if we could only get these indifferent democrats to turn out at the polls like Republicans...", etc.  and she doesn't want to shoot her candidacy in the foot with the truth.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #496 on: September 27, 2015, 10:02:14 PM »
Oh Contraire Mon Frere!
Cruz talks about religious freedom when he means Christian supremacy.

If it were a Moslem county clerk denying marriage licenses to couples without beards and head scarves, we'd hear a different story from him.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #497 on: September 27, 2015, 10:04:52 PM »
I thought that was what I said...

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Clinton on email controversy: a 'drip, drip, drip' of revelations
Reuters
By John Whitesides  2 hours ago
Asked about the hit in polls, Clinton said "what I have tried to do in explaining this is provide more transparency and more information than anybody I'm aware of who has ever served in government."


I have to agree that it's a reaching, non-story of an attack on her...

...and she doesn't say this braggadociously.

She brought it on herself by dragging her feet, making excuses, nit-picking words, then eventually turning over everything, acting like a lawyer instead of a statesman.

I don't think there's anything criminal at the root of it, although there probably are some unflattering candid glimpses of the Real Hillary saying things like "my boss is a doody head" "Show me a Harvard grad and I'll show you an arrogant ignoramus" "Israel is a pain in my butt" "Why are democratic donors so clingy and stingy?" "if we could only get these indifferent democrats to turn out at the polls like Republicans...", etc.  and she doesn't want to shoot her candidacy in the foot with the truth.
Has anything good she said ever gotten out?   I don't even get the meat of this latest manufactured scandal.

-You KNOW I'm not a fan - I just hold the professional Clinton-haters in even more contempt than the Clintons...

Offline vonbach

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #498 on: September 27, 2015, 10:06:43 PM »
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Cruz talks about religious freedom when he means Christian supremacy.

Whats your point? This is a Christian country and it was founded as such.
No you cant have "religious freedom" in this country. Its just a euphemism
for destroying Christianity.

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If it were a Moslem county clerk denying marriage licenses to couples without beards and head scarves, we'd hear a different story from him.
No muslims just set up child sex grooming gangs.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #499 on: September 27, 2015, 10:26:46 PM »
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Cruz talks about religious freedom when he means Christian supremacy.

Whats your point? This is a Christian country and it was founded as such.
No you cant have "religious freedom" in this country. Its just a euphemism
for destroying Christianity.

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If it were a Moslem county clerk denying marriage licenses to couples without beards and head scarves, we'd hear a different story from him.
No muslims just set up child sex grooming gangs.

Christians are free to get married. I know, I did it.
Except for what happens in a church, Christians shouldn't be free to decide who can and can't get married.

Denying a marriage license on the grounds of one's personal belief,  preventing others from doing so, and asserting a "right " to do so  isn't exercising freedom of conscience, it's establishing religious authority in the government in defiance of The Constitution as interpreted by the Supreme Court of the United States, and they have the final interpretation according to the Constitution itself.

Offline vonbach

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #500 on: September 27, 2015, 11:15:28 PM »
You cant be a Christian and support gay "marriage." She merely did whats expected of a Christian.
Theres a reason they aren't supposed to tolerated. You get the society that we have now.
"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #501 on: September 27, 2015, 11:19:20 PM »
Siiigh.  von, please don't let this turn into another problem area.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #502 on: September 27, 2015, 11:24:57 PM »
Its not my fault if you don't want to hear what the Bible says on the subject.
Take it up with the father if you don't like it.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #503 on: September 27, 2015, 11:31:00 PM »
No, I'm taking it up with YOU, because God doesn't come into my forum and say something hateful every time he says anything political.  I don't think you even show very good understanding of the Bible.

I said please, and I hope I won't have to ask you to tone it down a third time...

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #504 on: September 27, 2015, 11:33:59 PM »
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I don't think you even show very good understanding of the Bible.
Better than you apparently. The Bible is pretty clear on it.

Offline Lorizael

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #505 on: September 27, 2015, 11:38:03 PM »
No you cant have "religious freedom" in this country.

"Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society."

Really glad you don't have any power in the real world.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #506 on: September 27, 2015, 11:40:32 PM »
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I don't think you even show very good understanding of the Bible.
Better than you apparently. The Bible is pretty clear on it.
...

I opened that door, so I guess you get a pass on that one, but you're not helping yourself.  -I do wish I could see any sign that you care what a bad position you put me in when you do this, though.

Note that I'm not arguing the issue - I'm not interested in arguing about it.

Offline vonbach

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #507 on: September 28, 2015, 12:14:55 AM »
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Has anything good she said ever gotten out?   I don't even get the meat of this latest manufactured scandal.

-You KNOW I'm not a fan - I just hold the professional Clinton-haters in even more contempt than the Clintons...

The issue is if anyone else had handled classified data this way they'd already be in jail.
Even her own part doesn't want her in office. She has way to many enemies.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #508 on: September 28, 2015, 12:24:17 AM »
I absolutely disagree with nothing whatsoever in that second sentence in any way at all.  That's my primary objection to her.

The first - you may well be right, for all I know - but the professional Clinton haters have practically signed the made-up scandal, and I'd almost go out and waste my vote on the nasty piece of work she is, just to spite them.  She's scum, for sure, in my book, but they're worse.

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Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #509 on: September 28, 2015, 12:32:48 AM »
From what I have heard of the handling of classified data she should already be in jail.

 

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