US Presidential Contenders

[Rusty Edge]

Socialists always rub her the wrong way. She's worried she can't bring herself to vote for anybody.
I'm thrilled that the next president might not be a Clinton or Bush.

I figure Bernie would get a Republican Congress, and wouldn't be able to do much harm.

[Buster's Uncle]

He probably would - and I betcha he'd do a better job pushing through workable stuff than Bakrama.

[Dio]

Socialists always rub her the wrong way. She's worried she can't bring herself to vote for anybody.
I'm thrilled that the next president might not be a Clinton or Bush.

I figure Bernie would get a Republican Congress, and wouldn't be able to do much harm.

I must agree that I do not want Bush or Clinton as president. The maximum number of presidents with the same last name has historically only totalled two.

[Buster's Uncle]

Roosevelt II was the only non-stinker in the bunch, at that.

[Buster's Uncle]

It's sounding like South Carolina Senator and closet homosexual Lindsey Graham won the losers' debate.  Fiorina got invited to eat at the adult table tonight for doing that last time...

I think Graham is a chimp, but one of the least chimpy chimps in a monkey house that's officially turned out to be a more banana-eating, poo-slinging shrieking joke of a circus than last time.  This is today's Republican party.  Draft Tarzan; he's strong on alligator-killing, and the monkey sidekicks are already lined up.

[Rusty Edge]

I was cooking and only caught the conclusion of the Kid's table debate.

I was bristling at Santorum's assertion that "WE" must take away the Caliphate's territory. I think I'd be willing to buy him a one way ticket if he wants to put his own life on the line.

I haven't changed my mind. Everybody in the Moslem world needs to make up their mind about the Caliph and act accordingly, the same as if the Messiah appeared today, and the Christians would have to decide to follow, or denounce as a  heretic. Outside intervention would only confuse the issue within the faith.

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"And I say this not in a braggadocious  manner" should be the current frontrunner's tagline.

[Buster's Uncle]

Someone on The Atlantic called it the most outlandish thing he's ever said in his entire public life of saying ridiculous things.

And they do indeed need to police their own troublemakers in the Middle East, or not be surprised and outraged when our soreheads try to conquer the place.

[Buster's Uncle]

Lindsey Graham shines at undercard debate
CNN
By Manu Raju   Updated 9:53 PM ET, Wed September 16, 2015



 (CNN)—The Lindsey Graham show turned up in Simi Valley, California, during tonight's CNN Republican presidential debate.

After a flat performance in August at the first GOP debate, the South Carolina senator lit up the crowd at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library during CNN's undercard debate, lashing his opponents with sharp barbs and dropping zingers that brought roars of approval.

"That's the first thing I'm going to do as president: We're going to drink more," he said.

Graham also trashed Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton in eyebrow-raising terms.

"Where the hell were you" during the Benghazi, Libya, attacks, Graham fumed when he was asked about his past praise for Clinton.

The performance quickly earned Graham praise on social media, in much the same way Carly Fiorina impressed the audience during last month's debate.

He was no more charitable with some of his Republican rivals, saying he was "sick of hearing" fellow Sen. Ted Cruz calling for defunding Obamacare while President Barack Obama was in office and certain to veto such legislation.

He ridiculed Donald [Sleezebag] as "a cartoon character" who gets his foreign policy from the Cartoon Network.

And he even took digs -- repeatedly -- at fellow second-tier candidates, including former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

"I don't remember the Santorum plan when I was in the Senate," Graham said, referring to Santorum's immigration plan.

"We need to win -- we need to win fighting for Americans. We need to win fighting for the workers in this country," said Santorum, a former Pennsylvania senator.

"In my world, Hispanics are Americans."

Whether his sharp tongue will help boost his chances is far from certain. But it could give at least a small lift to the South Carolina Republican, who has won three terms in the Senate in no small part due to his folksy campaign style.

Graham, who has championed comprehensive immigration reform, including a path to citizenship, brought the crowd to roars when he said: "Strom Thurmond had four kids after age 67. If you're not willing to do that, we need to come up with a new immigration system."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/16/politics/lindsey-graham-republican-debate-performance/


I hear Rubio had a good moment or two, and Rand got off a smart shot back at the Pig.

[Buster's Uncle]

I've listening to bits from both debates since the last post, and Graham was indeed in fine form.  Big winner of the whole night is my guess.  Let's see if the polls don't say the same very soon.

[Rusty Edge]

I haven't seen the end yet. Stuff going on, DVR keeps getting paused. You know how it is, I can only focus on one voice at a time.

I may have to send Paul some money. He is sounding  again like a guy who believes in the Constitution. You know, that thing that everybody swears allegiance to when they take federal office, or join the military, or become a citizen.

Rubio is a great speaker when his passion comes out, and he's passionate about America in a way that only the descendent of immigrants and refugees can be.

That underscores a distinction I see in Republicans.  Call it Nixonian. That's when your worldview supersedes the Constitution. When you're so eager to protect America or Israel, or Capitalism, or the economy, that you trample the Constitution with good intentions, Patriot Act Style.  I'm thinking Rubio and Christie are a little too Nixonian.  I'm not too sure about some of the others. Cruz and Huckabee often cite the Constitution, but they get Nixonian when it comes to Christianity.

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Another contrast that struck me was the one between the frontrunner and Ronald Regan. Yeah, sure, they're both Teflon. Regan was hopeful, confident, and optimistic. The frontrunner is such a downer. He's critical of everybody who disagrees with him, in a petty and insecure way. I don't think his faces were very presidential.


Winners and losers? I can't say.  I will predict that Carly Fiorina gain relative to the frontrunner.

[Unorthodox]

The [Sleezebag] supporters here seem unmoved. 

"I wish he wouldn't say crazy stuff, but he's the guy to vote for."

 

[Green1]

The [Sleezebag] supporters here seem unmoved. 

"I wish he wouldn't say crazy stuff, but he's the guy to vote for."

 

[Sleezebag] destroyed them and owned that podium. Yes, he said crazy stuff. But, while everyone else acted artificial, he was animated and went after people. [Sleezebag] was into it and not afraid to lay smack down.  All the lesser knowns could do is kiss his butt hoping for a vice presidency later in the game and all the closest contenders could do is be on the defensive. Only Rand Paul came up with anything halfway coherent, but he is a Libertarian and not a full Repub and the powers that be will never have him anywhere near a nomination.

So... if [Sleezebag] gets elected, I am wondering about this wall bettween the US and Mexico. Is this going to be some kind of world wonder?  Is it going to have casinos?

[Buster's Uncle]

I thought the Pig had toned it down just a smidge last night.

I could change my mind about young Darth Paul yet.  He did indeed say a lot of the right things about our American rules, and playing by them.  The small-government conservatives aren't always right, but they're usually not wrong, and I got no real problem with them.  I'm glad there was someone in that room enunciating those rational principals.

Side note: it was obvious two years ago that the mass media group mind was terrified of Governor Christie.  There was an unmistakable low level smear campaign going all over MSNBC, for example.  Since, there seems to have developed a consensus, all across the bias spectrum, to ignore him to death.  The little he got to speak last night, he certainly sounded like George Will compared to a certain someone, and that's just wrong.

[vonbach]

So... if [Sleezebag] gets elected, I am wondering about this wall bettween the US and Mexico. Is this going to be some kind of world wonder?  Is it going to have casinos?

It'll be a real wonder its called enforce existing laws and go after employers. No jobs, no illegals that simple.
Anchor babies and their families that came across no problem. Guess what birthright citizenship doesn't apply to you
get out. This isn't a hard problem to fix. It just requires non marxists (or traitors) in office.

[Buster's Uncle]

The Republicans will never actually go through with that, you know.  Cheap labor that will do anything, put up with anything, and has no power to resist anything, being a phone call away from jail and a bus trip?  Too many Bossmen want exactly that too bad.

Be careful/diplomatic if you choose to discuss this issue...