US Presidential Contenders

[Buster's Uncle]

No, I want the Pig banned from public

That would be a horrible precedent.

Not officially, of course; what Geraldo said about OJ after he got away with it - shun him.  Everyone avoid him, refuse to speak to him, do not do business with him.  -You'll note that I avoid saying his name.  Everyone can play.

[Rusty Edge]

Let me see if I've got The Shrew's quote right tonight....

"State has everything it needs to have. I'm sorry that this has been confusing to people , but there are answers to these questions, and I will survive these answers."


Thanks for clearing that up for us , Hillary, so that you can put it all behind.

Translation- "I gave the department I was working for everything it needed to know. I refuse to speak to the information given to the FBI on the grounds that I might incriminate myself. I'm sorry this is distracting from the glory I deserve on the way to being anointed and crowned as the leader of the world. I thought I could dodge the questions altogether by merely deflecting them. I'm not going to tell you that I'm innocent. I'm not going to answer them. I want you to like me and trust me.

[vonbach]

Being a communist is not against the law.

Treason is.

McCarthyism was a period when the government actively attempted to censor speech and stop freedom of association. So, you know, my irony-meter just broke.

Thats amusing actually. The left has always been big on censorship. Just try saying a forbidden word in public
and see what happens. Say goodbye to your career if your lucky. In Europe you go to jail.
Or try and actually voice a heretical political opinion on a university campus and see how long that lasts before the local anti-fa come after you. McCarthyism was an attempt to stop the communists from "the long march through the institutions" and it failed.

[Buster's Uncle]

It certainly failed.

[vonbach]

It certainly failed.

Yes it did. And our country is essentially destroyed because of it.
Now were going to get the backlash.

[Buster's Uncle]

Bernie Sanders joins a picket line in Cedar Rapids
The Washington Post
By John Wagner September 4 at 10:26 PM



CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa -- Sen. Bernie Sanders, who's been a fierce voice for the working class on the presidential campaign trail, put some action behind his words Friday, joining a picket line outside a factory here.

Sanders, the independent senator from Vermont, marched with workers at the Penford Products plant, which produces potato starches, and where the union that represents them is locked in a bitter contact dispute with a new out-of-state owner.

"We are sick and tired of the war against working families," Sanders told scores of workers who gathered in a park next to the plant following the informational picket.

Echoing his lines on the campaign trail, Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, decried "corporate greed," adding: "That's what we're seeing here. ... We have got to stand together and tell this company that greed is not acceptable."

Workers at the plant, represented by the Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Union Local 100G, are on the job without a contract but are threatening to strike if a deal is not reached with the new owner, Ingredion Inc.

Sanders's involvement in the local dispute comes as he and Hillary Rodham Clinton, the Democratic front-runner, are fighting for support among labor unions in Iowa and nationally.

Several of the participants in the picketing late Friday afternoon said Sanders's presence was a reminder of his authenticity on labor issues. Sanders has marched in solidarity with aggrieved workers throughout his career in politics, which includes stints in the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives and as mayor of Burlington, Vt.

"Bernie has shown that it's not about talking the talk,"Chris Eby, Local 100G president, told the gathering Friday. "It's about walking the walk."

As they awaited Sanders's arrival, the picketers cycled through several chants, including, "Hey, hey, ho, ho, the war on workers has got to go." Sanders was handed a sign when his car drove up and took his place in the line.

The event, which came amid a three-day swing for Sanders in the first presidential nominating state, was still fresh on his mind when he appeared at a rally at nearby Coe College in Cedar Rapids on Friday evening.

"What is going on here is exactly what has been going on all over the country," Sanders said, suggesting the labor dispute was among the reasons the country needs "a political revolution."

[Sanders draws more than 2,500 to Iowa stop — tops for this presidential cycle so far]

The rally, which college officials estimated drew 2,000 people, was one of the largest this cycle in Iowa. The largest to date remains a Sanders rally in Council Bluffs in July that was said to have attracted 2,500 people, including many from just across the state line in Nebraska.

Sanders's current Iowa trip, which began Thursday, is his first since a new poll showed him drawing close to Clinton in the state.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/04/bernie-sanders-joins-a-picket-line-in-cedar-rapids/

[vonbach]

Bernie Sanders joins a picket line in Cedar Rapids

Bernie Sanders is never getting near the white house.
As soon as the black lives matter protestors took over his event
and forced him off his own podium he was done.
Just drop out and get it over with.

[Buster's Uncle]

...You being such a careful thinker w/o bias, I'll be sure to take your word for it...

[vonbach]

And your being rude, condescending and arrogant.

[Yitzi]

Bernie Sanders joins a picket line in Cedar Rapids

Bernie Sanders is never getting near the white house.
As soon as the black lives matter protestors took over his event
and forced him off his own podium he was done.
Just drop out and get it over with.

Hey, even if he can't win that doesn't mean he can't do damage to the establishment in the process of losing...

[Dio]

...You being such a careful thinker w/o bias, I'll be sure to take your word for it...

And your being rude, condescending and arrogant.

These particular comments appear whenever BUncle and vonbach start discussing issues that are political in nature.

[Green1]

Bernie Sanders joins a picket line in Cedar Rapids

Bernie Sanders is never getting near the white house.
As soon as the black lives matter protestors took over his event
and forced him off his own podium he was done.
Just drop out and get it over with.

Remember, though election before last. Hilary was decimating everyone when Obama started pulling way ahead. Then, Obama started creaming it with a populist message. Was some kind of back room deal that election made between them? Who knows? She did get Secretary of State, though.

Hilary may have her 3rd wave feminist men haters who complain they can not drink in the 19th hole at the country club that they play bridge at, but the feminist movement is getting pretty overcrowded with zealots. Other than abortion rights, there is some really messy things coming out of that camp. Stuff like greatly expanded definitions of rape and literally taking over some college campuses. Not exactly good bedfellows. So, the whole "OMGZZZ First Girl Prez! Grrrl Powerrrr" factor is kind of moot just because of the vague association with that for any except those in bureaucratic social work.

Now, they are really harping on those emails. But, how many folks have used the company email for personal stuff? Not exactly genius move, but I do not think it is enough to sink her. But, her evasive talk about it makes her appear a bit like she is hiding something, even if she is not and just wishing it would go away.

Now, you are right. The Clinton machine is far reaching. Much further than Bernie's. But is it enough to overcome the vague untrustworthiness and no real message except to quote a Political Correct handbook? [Sleezebag] will stomp her with just his brunt force.

Bernie at least has the message, but Clinton had name recognition. My crystal ball is cracked, but as Sanders gets mentioned more, this could become hard to predict. This war is far from over with the Democrats. But, the good money would be on Hilary. She knows every crook from Arkansas to New York.

The Republicans however have basically anointed [Sleezebag] barrring Jeb Bush pulling out some card or [Sleezebag] really messing up which will not happen. Bush suffers from the fact a lot of people could not stand his brother. [Sleezebag] could take a dump on the toilet and forget to wipe and still come up with some BS about it making him look cool.

This election could be bad...

[vonbach]

Hillary is never getting elected either. The reason is simple no one likes her.
Every time she opens her mouth people wince. The Hillary campaign has
been trying to keep her out of public functions as much as possible.
Bill Clinton knew how to work a crowd she cant. She also has an unbelievable
amount of baggage and enemies. There aren't enough liberal cat ladies to get her elected.

Bernie at least has the message,

Bernie is done. All anyone has to do is play that clip of him getting
bullied off his own stage and its over. The Democrats will end up finding someone else to run
against [Sleezebag].

The Republicans however have basically anointed [Sleezebag] barrring Jeb Bush pulling out some card or [Sleezebag] really messing up which will not happen.

Jeb is wasting his time, no one wants more Bushes in the white house. Even though Obama did something
no one ever though possible. He actually makes W Bush look good in comparison. Jeb has all the Bush baggage
and he's so pro illegals he might as well be running for the Mexican presidency.

[Buster's Uncle]

You were doing so well until you brought up Bakrama.


Sanders has a big, huge, thing going for him: Anyone But Hillary.  She campaigns like Al Gore in a dress, only with even less charisma and sincerity.  All he has to do to -at worst- not get humiliated is continue to be Bernie Sanders, emphasizing experience and competence, not screw up, and he's going to make a credible showing automatically.

ABH.

[vonbach]

You were doing so well until you brought up Bakrama.

Heh. He's  the best thing to happen to the Republican party in a hundred years.
He's done more to galvanize the  Republican base than anyone else in history.