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Offline Spacy

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2025 on: September 22, 2016, 01:29:24 AM »
I want to find a Johnson sign.  Been too lazy to look though.
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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2026 on: September 22, 2016, 04:38:12 AM »
I want to find a Johnson sign.  Been too lazy to look though.


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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2027 on: September 22, 2016, 05:31:48 AM »
Nothing about the real George Bush saying he was voting for Mrs. Clinton?

I am away from home. My laptop is still fading. My plan is to replace it when I get home, regardless of whether Civ IV has released specs. If the one I choose doesn't exceed min specs, I'll probably skip VI.

Anyway, every day is different and I don't control how the media is utilized, I can't keep up.

THAT SAID- I had some extra internet today.

GLEANINGS-

* Yes, it seems that The Real George Bush intimated that he will be voting for Hillary to a Kennedy family member who shared the news. The Bush family has been officially neutral and remains so, but there was no denial.

* The GSA refused to give Gary a courtesy security briefing.

* Hillary is resting.

* It seems that Johnson is first among Millennials and Independents, and tied for first among the military, who is now voting.

* My wife the corporate CPA says that they can charge [Sleezebag] on tax evasion and racketeering for what he has done with the [Sleezebag] Foundation, based upon the investigative work of The Washington Post. The New York AG is already investigating on the basis of misuse of a charity.

* Bernstein of Watergate fame at the Washington Post has voiced a rumor that Bill Weld will drop out to save Hillary. Weld refutes this, and Gary used a masculine bovine droppings term on television.

* As for political pressure being brought against the Commission on Presidential Debates by Stein and Johnson supporters, Hofstra is getting their website voted down. Southwest Airlines dropped sponsorship after the same controversy 4 years ago. Budweiser has been pressured so much that their voicemail has complaints on the presidential debates as #1 . I still haven't heard back by facebook messenger from Budweiser or AARP, who is also a sponsor.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2028 on: September 23, 2016, 05:08:25 AM »
Today was mostly about automotive and appliance crisis stuff for me.

Just an observation - The [Sleezebag] trolls have been rather nasty on the net to the Johnson/Stein people. But now that the race has tightened, they are primarily picking only on Hillary, and her people are starting to get unhinged. Hillary people  seem to be taking her "Deplorable" and "unredeemable" remarks as a key note. Apparently they think if they call us Johnson and Stein voters crazy and idiotic it will win us over.

Maybe that's why they're struggling.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2029 on: September 23, 2016, 07:17:18 PM »
Politifact decided they ought to compile a scorecard on the infamous New York foundations.

-found/]http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/sep/23/politifact-sheet-comparing-clinton-and-[Sleezebag]-found/

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2030 on: September 24, 2016, 06:59:50 AM »
Today's stuff-

* Cruz has publicly declared he will vote for [Sleezebag].

* 538 has the election balanced on New Hampshire, which is currently leaning Hillary. It may be starting to trend to Hillary again, but the electoral college is that close.

* Historical analysis predicts a Clinton loss- "LICHTMAN: "The Keys to the White House" is a historically based prediction system. I derived the system by looking at every American presidential election from 1860 to 1980, and have since used the system to correctly predict the outcomes of all eight American presidential elections from 1984 to 2012.

The keys are 13 true/false questions, where an answer of "true" always favors the reelection of the party holding the White House, in this case the Democrats. And the keys are phrased to reflect the basic theory that elections are primarily judgments on the performance of the party holding the White House. And if six or more of the 13 keys are false — that is, they go against the party in power — they lose. If fewer than six are false, the party in power gets four more years."

* A multitude of Hillary's e-mails will be released to the public... after the election.

Offline E_T

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2031 on: September 25, 2016, 05:59:12 PM »
I want to find a Johnson sign.  Been too lazy to look though.

Order from website.  While your there, sign the petition to get them into the debates.  They need 1 million and so far, as of about a week ago, had over 860,000 signatures...
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Offline E_T

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2032 on: September 25, 2016, 06:13:20 PM »
* Historical analysis predicts a Clinton loss- "LICHTMAN: "The Keys to the White House" is a historically based prediction system. I derived the system by looking at every American presidential election from 1860 to 1980, and have since used the system to correctly predict the outcomes of all eight American presidential elections from 1984 to 2012.

The keys are 13 true/false questions, where an answer of "true" always favors the reelection of the party holding the White House, in this case the Democrats. And the keys are phrased to reflect the basic theory that elections are primarily judgments on the performance of the party holding the White House. And if six or more of the 13 keys are false — that is, they go against the party in power — they lose. If fewer than six are false, the party in power gets four more years."

Yes, but does it predict a Win by [Sleezebag] or Johnson, that is the real question.  In a two choice historical prediction system (where when there was a 3rd top of the pack choice AND their inclusion did not really effect on the two main ones), where it goes by whom will lose, it is foregone as to the winner.  Fast forward to today and...
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Offline E_T

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2033 on: September 26, 2016, 12:43:50 AM »
Got an email from the Johnson/Weld campaign, about 7 hours ago, that they got the needed 1 million electronic signatures for the petition to get them into the debates.

:Yahoo:
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Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2034 on: September 26, 2016, 04:43:17 AM »
The Professor allowed as how [Sleezebag] is an outlier and the rules may not apply to him.

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*The New York Times endorses Hillary- SHOCKING!

* 538- Odds of Democrats taking control of the Senate - 52.2% GOP hangs on 47.8% Other sources seem to be losing hope of a turnover altogether. 

* Somehow, this is not re-assuring - [ Politico found that [Sleezebag] averaged "one falsehood every three minutes and 15 seconds over nearly five hours of remarks" while Clinton averaged one falsehood every twelve minutes.

Overall, the news outlet counted 87 "misstatements, exaggerations, falsehoods" from [Sleezebag] and eight from Clinton. ]

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2035 on: September 26, 2016, 06:03:00 AM »
Oh! In the anecdotal evidence yard sign and bumper sticker survey- The giant [Sleezebag] sign that kept loosing it's "T" has been removed altogether.  Saw a Johnson sign. What's remarkable is that it had no competition. It was the only one on a multi-mile stretch of the main highway through a population center of 100K. This town used to have yard-sign wars when I lived in the county at the turn of the century.

Saw a Bernie sticker today.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2036 on: September 26, 2016, 10:02:43 PM »
Saw a [Sleezebag] sticker on a pick-up today.

Offline Rusty Edge

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2037 on: September 27, 2016, 05:03:26 AM »
I listened rather than watched the debate.  I didn't want to be influenced by theatrics. I was reading Gary's live commentary ( my favorite quip of his was- Is there an online [Sleezebag] self-congratulations calculator? )

I think that while the bar was set high for Hillary, [Sleezebag] failed the basic "look presidential" test.

[Sleezebag] had been trending well recently, drawing nearly even, but I think he lost his momentum with this unprepared, unfocused  performance.  Not that I think he lost support, but that he needed to convince those undecideds that he'd do okay- and failed.

As for Hillary- speaking as a Hillary hater, she didn't do anything to infuriate me. If she's been working at being likable- she's making progress. I could argue against her politics, but her performance was okay.

Offline Unorthodox

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2038 on: September 27, 2016, 02:17:45 PM »
Didn't watch.

Only sound bite I got this morning was Hillary accusing [Sleezebag] of not paying his taxes and him saying that just makes him smart. 

Don't think this really moves anyone either way.  [Sleezebag] haters will point how he's a cheat, while the backers just point out he knows how it's broke so he can fix it. 

Any other items of interest out of that thing?  Don't seem like there was a total meltdown by either. 

I can imagine a lot of [Sleezebag] trying to hit the email thing and accusing her of being part of the problem that broke the system, with Clinton attempting a high ground retort and quoting her experience/Trumps lack thereof. 

Hillary wearing red was genius on many levels.  Or maybe I pay too much attention to presentation.   

Any chance Johnson can make the next debate?  (I might actually watch then)


Offline Unorthodox

Re: US Presidential Contenders
« Reply #2039 on: September 27, 2016, 02:34:50 PM »
If I were to believe the chatter around the office, [Sleezebag] won the debate by a landslide. 


 

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