US Presidential Contenders

[Rusty Edge]

Okay. One of the Super-Pacs supporting Johnson has come up with this ad. I found it pretty funny, because I hate Hillary and fear [Sleezebag]. Funniest thing I've heard this week. I also found the concept it's promoting interesting. I've heard of US Senators doing something similar- pairing off across the aisle and missing a vote, particularly one that's been poisoned with amendments.

I thought of Buncle when it got to the part that said Hillary's views are the same as Dick Cheney's, except he supported gay marriage sooner.

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[Buster's Uncle]

THAT is the best campaign ad I have ever seen in my entire life.

[Rusty Edge]

The Mrs. doesn't buy into The Balanced Rebellion concept. She didn't find it as hilarious as I did, because she thought it was too tragically true to be funny. She's probably not the target audience, and she decided she was voting for Johnson a month or more ago.

[Rusty Edge]

Today's GLEANINGS-

Gary Johnson-

* Will not be included in the NBC/CNBC "Commander -in-Chief" Town Hall for the Veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan that will feature both [Sleezebag] and Hillary. Apparently [Sleezebag] & Hillary  will not appear together, in order to appease the Commission on Presidential Debates, because the Two parties and the major networks have this binding agreement.

There was a lot of pressure from veterans and families to include Johnson, who polls higher than both Clinton & [Sleezebag] among active duty troops. The compromise was to give Johnson his own Town Hall on the subject on CNBC.

* Continued his New England tour in Maine. They think he has a legitimate shot at an elector there, because they are awarded by Congressional district, not state-wide.

* Clarified his recent positions/shifts on John Stossel's show on FOX Business- promoted as a Town Hall. It did follow that format, but it was as sympathetic a host and audience as you are likely to see, except for Hannity & [Sleezebag] or perhaps Hillary on MSNBC. The Libertarian convention would have been much harsher.  Positions such as -

Vaccination- Properly a states issue, but if it reaches his desk in some form as president, he believes that vaccines work safely, had his own kids vaccinated, and will vote on the side of science.

Carbon Taxes- He has been against "Cap and trade". He recently stated he would consider carbon fees as a preferable market based, rather than regulatory approach to global warming, which he believes is real and man made in part. Tonight he has back-tracked explaining that the track record of carbon taxation falls far short of the theory, and he can't support them.

When asked yet again about Nazi cakes and Jewish bakers, etc.  Johnson was firm about offering the same protections against discrimination, whether it's based upon race, religion, or sexual orientation.

Bernie Sanders
* Has dropped out of the Democratic Party to run for his Senate seat as an independent.

Hillary

* While the "over half of those not in government who met with Clinton contributed to the Foundation" claim is not based upon a representative sample, but only on cross checking limited, available lists. It is clear that there was no wall of separation between the foundation and the State Department. It is clear that a lot of money was given by those who talked to Hillary. No proof of wrongdoing yet. No data on the efficiency of the foundation, which is sort of secretive.

* Notable NeoCon PAul Wolfowitz "might have to vote for Hillary"

* Hillary gets labor Union endorsements.

[Sleezebag]-

* His campaign manager has a checkered past.
* Economists doubt his economic plans.
* [Sleezebag]'s doctor says he wrote that statement about his physical fitness for the presidency in 5 minutes.
* The more [Sleezebag] talks about Immigration policy, the more confused it seems.

[Rusty Edge]

GLEANINGS-
Johnson-

* Forgot to report that 538 says Johnson is breaking the rules about 3rd party candidates fading after the Major Party conventions. They may reconsider their projections. The trouble is, he's not exactly breaking out, either. NBC has him at 11% again.

*"The former New Mexico governor’s campaign is spending $806,195 this month on radio ads in Colorado, Iowa, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah and Wisconsin, according to a media buying source." Billboards and radio. Well, I still don't think Johnson can beat Hillary here in a presidential year. But, [Sleezebag]? If they make the case...Oh Yeah! Wisconsin is a Never [Sleezebag] state.

Hillary-
*Hillary was the first to denounce the price gouging on the epi-pens. The Trouble is the CEO, formerly a lobbyist and daughter of a Democratic senator and Clinton supporter, is also a Clinton Foundation donor.

[Sleezebag]-
* [Sleezebag] did an interview with Anderson Cooper, his first non-FOX TV interview in some time. It didn't go well, because he pressed [Sleezebag] on the Immigration/deportation Flip. [Sleezebag] is not expected to interview other TV networks again.

* I really wanted to find a story about [Sleezebag] and his campaign that was positive. Because there must be something positive happening , right? Voter registration, charity work, new endorsements, respectable policy positions. That sort of thing. No such luck. His Black outreach is backfiring. News coverage is about his racially prejudiced history. Campus Republican groups are opposing him, splintering, and fighting between chapters over their positions. There must be some reason for the slight tightening of the race, but it's probably about Hillary's health, WikiLeaks, and the Clinton Foundation.

* Has [Sleezebag] jumped the shark on immigration? The Cruz camp says "I told you so", the Manchester Guardian says that [Sleezebag]'s strong suit was straight talk. With the flipflop on the core issue, has [Sleezebag] lost his loyalty?  His mojo?

[E_T]

All reasons to get Johnson into the debates.

Did you see the Stossle (sp) Town hall with both Johnson and Weld?  If you don't get a chance to post a link, I'll see what I can do later, got to go ATM...

[Rusty Edge]

Watched, nothing struck me as new.

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[Rusty Edge]

I've mentioned before that the Iraq & Afghanistan's veteran's association was doing a Commander & Chief Town Hall with [Sleezebag], who insists that the military torture ISIS and go after their families, and Hillary, who is the architect of the status quo, to be televised by NBC and CNBC. They get around the debate Commission's monopoly by having them appear separately.

The trouble is that Gary Johnson,( who advocates getting out of Afghanistan now because it won't be any easier 20 years from now, and that the Department of Defense should be used to defend America, rather than try to impose regime change) , is the most popular candidate among active duty military. He wasn't invited.

Active duty and their families have objected strenuously. They have called and petitioned. Apparently to the point of closing the office, but that hasn't stopped them. Now they are calling the association's sponsors, and the IRS challenging their tax status. As one person observes- "you guys are nothing if not organized and persistent"

https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/4zv5ec/the_iava_has_announced_it_is_closing_until/

[ "As you are no doubt aware, the IAVA has decided to exclude Gary Johnson from their Commander in Chief forum on 7 September. Gary Johnson has polled higher with members of the military than either candidate invited to participate. For this reason the IAVA has been inundated with negative feedback from the Veteran and active military communities. As a response the IAVA has ceased operations until 6 September in a cowardly attempt to avoid further backlash. As a sponsor of the IAVA, your organization and contact information is now being passed around the outraged military community in an attempt to effect change. Please assist us in demanding the inclusion of Gary Johnson in the CiC Forum on 7 September. If you truly support the military community please stand with us and demand inclusion, or pull your financial support from an organization which would rather shut its doors than listen to the requests of the community it claims it stands for." ]

[Buster's Uncle]

Wow.

[Rusty Edge]

Yeah, pretty amazing, but these are life and death issues for these families.

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I didn't see this coming... THE END GAME.

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Donald [Sleezebag] Could Win Big Even If He Loses Election

With recent polls showing Hillary Clinton maintaining a sizable lead over Republican rival Donald [Sleezebag], many Democrats are predicting a landslide win in November.

And, if [Sleezebag] does lose, many in the GOP establishment are hoping the brash and unpredictable real estate mogul turned reality TV star will just go away.

But [Sleezebag] is unlikely to do that.

Instead, with his ever-tighter ties to former Fox News chairman Roger Ailes (who is now reportedly advising the Republican candidate) and his recent hiring of former Breitbart chairman Steven Bannon, there's a growing chorus, propelled by a report in Vanity Fair, saying that [Sleezebag]'s endgame is not the nation's highest office — but to have a right-wing media outlet of his own.

Related: What will happen to the GOP after [Sleezebag]: Beyond [Sleezebag]

If [Sleezebag] lost in November and then launched his own media operation — a plan his campaign has repeatedly denied — what would it be exactly? And would it be a success?

"Losing in November would be the best thing that could happen, from a business standpoint," said Jon Klein, former president of CNN's U.S. operations. Klein, who is currently the CEO of TAPP, the subscription-based online video network that launched Sarah Palin's now defunct channel, added, "It would only increase the passion of his most hard-core supporters, and it would give them a juicy target to rail against for the next four years."

If [Sleezebag] were to launch his own media venture, we don't know what form it would take: cable TV, the internet, or something else entirely.

But Klein said the internet subscription route — in the style of Glenn Beck's Blaze TV, in which a small (by web and cable TV standards) audience pays a monthly fee for behind-paywall video content — would be highly successful in that it would eliminate the cable or satellite middleman so viewers could better "connect deeply and directly with their hero."

Whether or not an internet video network would be high-profile enough for the attention-hungry [Sleezebag] is another question.

Related: How [Sleezebag] Spent $8.4 Million to Play Digital Catch-up

"It's hard to imagine if [Sleezebag] were to be looking to build a media operation that it would be anything [except] small," said Brian Wieser, a senior analyst of advertising, media and internet at Pivotal Research Group. But to start an actual television station would cost hundreds of millions of dollars at least, which begs the question, "How much money does he really have? How much in liquid assets?" said Wieser. [Sleezebag] routinely claims to be worth $10 billion, though that figure is highly suspect.

Robert Thompson, a professor and director of the Bleier Center for Television and Popular Culture at Syracuse University, predicted a cable network would be unsuccessful for [Sleezebag] in that it's an enormous, expensive undertaking and it's already a very crowded news environment. And "for many millions of Americans the [Sleezebag] brand is already tarnished," he said.


On the other hand, "You need fewer people to make a hit night on cable television that you do to be elected president. If he could regularly have a media operation that would have 3 million people watching that would be successful," he said of [Sleezebag]. That's not an outlandish number to imagine — after all, some 14 million people voted for [Sleezebag] in the GOP primaries.

And there's another angle, too. [Sleezebag] the candidate loves to skewer the media, frequently calling it "dishonest" and "corrupt." He's arguably foreshadowing a "problem" that he can "fix."

[Sleezebag] is "already setting up a narrative, that the media is corrupt and the system is rigged against him. The natural transition is 'we need a platform to be heard,'" said Kurt Bardella, Breitbart's former spokesman who quit earlier this year and has been highly critical of [Sleezebag]. The hiring of Bannon certainly indicates that [Sleezebag] is considering a media entity for his base, he added.

And there's no doubt [Sleezebag] would love the attention of being not just a business mogul, but a media honcho, too.

"What [Sleezebag] is happiest doing is running for president, not being president — but running for president," said Thompson. "Part of that has to do with him being in the media spotlight."

[Elok]

I read an article someone linked to on Facebook.  Got three-quarters of the way through before I realized it was "alt-right," ie some reactionary racist imbecile.  I was clued in by use of the word "cuckservative," which somebody apparently thinks is a clever coinage. 

They should put a warning label on these things.

[Rusty Edge]

Well, Thanks to this site, I have been aware of this term since last year, so any reference to it or "Anudda Shoa" is warning label.

[Buster's Uncle]

I am very saddened that this site had anything to do with spreading such knowledge...

[E_T]

[Sleezebag] isn't smart enough to have had this as an endgame goal, from the very begining...  But I think that it is something that Hannety (sp) had proposed as a fallback...

[PREDICTION Mode]
Post election: After getting 33% pop vote and less in Electoral Votes, [Sleezebag] will lead a split in the consevatives with the FlakeCons (just coined it) moving over to Trumps new media outlet, taking about 1/3rd of FoxNews Staff with them...  Contract penalties payed for by the new money from finacial backers for this new outlet, as [Sleezebag]'s Cashflow is stymied by the election...
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[Rusty Edge]

I am very saddened that this site had anything to do with spreading such knowledge...

Well, like you said, differing opinions can be educational. I Google backtracked some stuff which I thought was cut and pasted and found a group of podcasters that seemed to be source of the ideas based upon various code words. Then it all made sense. Pro-T rump because he is anti-political correctness. Political correctness means you get criticized for speaking your mind as a  ( person such as described by Elok ).

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I'm sharing this because it shows the Gary we would see in the debates.

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