US Presidential Contenders

[Rusty Edge]

WikiLeaks strikes again-

https://theintercept.com/2016/10/07/excerpts-of-hillary-clintons-paid-speeches-to-goldman-sachs-finally-leaked/

"Excerpts of Hillary Clinton’s remarks during paid speeches to Goldman Sachs, Deutsche Bank, Morgan Stanley, and other groups were leaked online Friday afternoon by WikiLeaks. Clinton, who was paid upwards of $225,000 per speech, earned more than $22 million on the paid speaking circuit after resigning as secretary of state.

The excerpts are revealed in an email from Tony Carrk, the research director of the Clinton campaign, to John Podesta, the campaign chairman, and other top campaign officials. Carrk, who did not respond to a request for comment, highlighted in the memo the most politically damaging quotes from each paid speech, under headers including “CLINTON ADMITS SHE IS OUT OF TOUCH,” “CLINTON SAYS YOU NEED TO HAVE A PRIVATE AND PUBLIC POSITION ON POLICY,” and “CLINTON REMARKS ARE PRO KEYSTONE AND PRO TRADE.”

The wealth Clinton accumulated was a topic at the paid events.

Discussing middle class economic anxieties, Clinton told a crowd at a Goldman Sachs-sponsored speech that she is now “kind of far removed because the life I’ve lived and the economic, you know, fortunes that my husband and I now enjoy, but I haven’t forgotten it.”

But the discussions were also an opportunity for Clinton to speak candidly about policy, politics, and her approach to governing.

Touching on her view of developing financial regulations, Clinton declared to a crowd of Goldman Sachs bankers that in order to “figure out what works,” the “people that know the industry better than anybody are the people who work in the industry.”

At the Goldman Sachs Builders and Innovators Summit, Clinton responded to a question from chief executive Lloyd Blankfein, who quipped that you “go to Washington” to “make a small fortune.” Clinton agreed with the comment and complained about ethics rules that require officials to divest from certain assets before entering government. “There is such a bias against people who have led successful and/or complicated lives,” Clinton said.

At a speech for Morgan Stanley on April 18, 2013, Clinton praised the Simpson-Bowles deficit reduction plan — which would reduce corporate tax rates while raising the Social Security age. “But Simpson-Bowles — and I know you heard from Erskine earlier today — put forth the right framework. Namely, we have to restrain spending, we have to have adequate revenues, and we have to incentivize growth. It’s a three-part formula,” she said.

Clinton also told a housing trade group in 2013 that on certain issues, she has “a public and a private position.” “If everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least,” said Clinton. “So, you need both a public and a private position.”

The Intercept was the first media outlet to ask Clinton directly if she would release the transcripts of her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs. When approached at an event in Manchester, New Hampshire, Clinton laughed off the question.

The issue was raised again during the Democratic primary debates and in other media events. In February of this year, the New York Times editorial board called for Clinton to release her speech transcripts, declaring that voters “have every right to know what Mrs. Clinton told these groups.”

According to reports, the campaign reviewed the speech transcripts but decided against releasing them out of fear that she would appear too friendly to banks and other donor interest groups.

But there are signs in the emails released by WikiLeaks that she also took a fairly progressive stance on certain topics, including health care reform.

During a talk in Grand Rapids, Michigan, in 2013, Clinton praised the single-payer model for health care reform. “If you look at the single-payer systems, like Scandinavia, Canada, and elsewhere, they can get costs down because, you know, although their care, according to statistics, overall is as good or better on primary care,” she said, adding that there were some drawbacks. “They do impose things like waiting times, you know.”

But during the campaign this year, she dismissed the idea, declaring that single payer will “never, ever” happen in the U.S. Audio obtained by The Intercept last week showed Clinton dismissing the concept of free health care during another private event with donors."

[Rusty Edge]

Meanwhile the RNC is again discussing what to do if [Sleezebag] quits....

Why? A tape came out of him being a sexist jerk, causing even Ryan and Preibus to denounce him. I'll share just enough to give you an idea of the tone. 

-after-access-hollywood-tape-released/]http://www.cbsnews.com/news/republicans-rebuke-[Sleezebag]-after-access-hollywood-tape-released/

"On a 2005 tape released Friday by The Washington Post, [Sleezebag] told Billy Bush, then of “Access Hollywood,” that you can “grab [women] by the p****” and “you can make them do anything.” Bush laughs and then asks soap opera star Arianna Zucker to hug [Sleezebag]. "

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Oddly enough for me these revelations are as much non-events to me as the Snowden disclosures ( I predicted abuses when the Patriot Act was passed) and  [Sleezebag]'s tax returns ( my wife and I have theorized that the reason he wasn't making charitable contributions was because he didn't need the deductions, which must mean he was carrying forward bankruptcy losses.) .  I have always thought [Sleezebag] was a sexist jerk. I have always thought that Hillary was greedy and disingenuous. No Surprises.   

[Unorthodox]

Just saw that on the news.

Will this be enough?  Can Johnson get a push now? 

[Buster's Uncle]

I've concluded that Mrs. Clinton is in it for the gurl powah and the village children - everything else is just pragmatism because it comes up while she's running for president of women's lib children.  I'm serious.

[Rusty Edge]

SHORT ANSWER- IT"S REALLY HARD FOR GARY TO GET TRACTION LATELY. The Clinton Campaign has changed policy. Previously they were ignoring Johnson. Now they are against him.

Maybe it's that Johnson is polling well with Millennials, or that Nate Silver of 538 personally wrote an article that said it was plausible that Johnson could win his home state of New Mexico and deny both Clinton and [Sleezebag] a win in the Electoral College.

Now President Obama, Joe Biden and Tim Kaine have all attacked Gary. The Boston Globe misrepresented an interview with Bill Weld, suggesting that he was embarrassed by Gary and  would soon ditch him and the Libertarian Party. Weld has refuted this, but the rumor has spread through the press, and grows with the retellings.

Also The New York Times, which has cited Johnson for his uncommon honesty after his editorial board interview,  endorsed Hillary, and  took 3 corrections to get their own story right about Aleppo, falsely stating that it was the capital of Syria, then the capital of ISIS, etc.  - had the audacity to ask Gary if he knew who the leader of North Korea was. He said "Yes" when they continued to look at him, he said "You want me to name him.... " then drolly said "Really."   So the headlines  were Johnson doesn't know or refuses to answer.       I know, and the NYT should know that Gary has cited North Korea as the number 1 problem in the world "eventually they wil have nuclear missiles that work." and spoken about it and Kim often.

It's been like that. One attempt to misrepresent or discredit him after another.    I could go into details about one thing or another if anybody cares.   


Oh. One that really irritates me is the effort to discredit him as a brain-damaged stoner. He hasn't used since the beginning of May as I recall.   

More importantly he has beaten Bill Weld at chess multiple times. Bill Weld who graduated with an A.B. summa cum laude in classics from Harvard College in 1966, studied economics at University College, Oxford, and graduated with a J.D. cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1970. Bill Weld who used to play multiple simultaneous games of chess against all challengers while blindfolded and win !   

If Gary can do that, I think it's his critics who are stupid or uninformed, not him.

If anybody doubts his foreign policy chops, they should read what was said about his approach vs. Clinton vs [Sleezebag] in Foreign Policy Magazine , or watch his hour long speech at the University of Chicago today.

Explaining the Gary News and correcting the misinformation would take all of my time each day. BUT IF ANYBODY HAS A GARY QUESTION IN PARTICULAR I WILL TRY TO ANSWER.

[Rusty Edge]

I have no idea how this [Sleezebag] stuff will shake out. Apparently the GOP donors are howling.  [Sleezebag] may make an actual apology.  Or resign rather than let Hillary tear him apart on the debate stage with a YUGE audience. Or he may have to continue his campaign with his own money. The Horror!

But video/audio isn't deniable, and it lends credibility to the other allegations of him being a sexist jerk.They will search for and find similar remarks for the rest of the month.  I said [Sleezebag] will take down the GOP, either now, or in the mid-terms.

Well, maybe sooner than later.

[Rusty Edge]

Here is T rump's first ever apology-

https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/vb.153080620724/10157844642270725/?type=2&theater


My wife watched and said- "He's dead in the water."

[Rusty Edge]

This is the trailer for the documentary about the Johnson/Weld campaign.




http://www.rigged2016.com/

[E_T]

Just saw that on the news.

Will this be enough?  Can Johnson get a push now?

Get him onto the debate stage and yeah, it will

[Rusty Edge]

*Here's Gary's foreign policy overview-
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/gary-johnson-my-foreign-policy-vision-17974

*Hillary is smart enough to let [Sleezebag] and the GOP do the talking until the debate.

[Rusty Edge]

https://www.facebook.com/fusionmedianetwork/videos/vb.1069936086365702/1588736821152290/?type=2&theater

Somebody did their Halloween décor as the [Sleezebag] Wall.

[Rusty Edge]

A Statement from Gov. John Kasich






John Kasich·Saturday, October 8, 2016
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"Nothing that has happened in the last 48 hours is surprising to me or many others. Many people were angry and questioned why I would not endorse Donald [Sleezebag] or attend the Republican Convention.  I’ve long had concerns with Donald [Sleezebag] that go beyond his temperament. We have substantive policy differences on conservative issues like trade, our relationship with Russia, and the importance of balancing the federal budget.  I’ve held out hope that he would change on those disqualifying policy positions, but he has not.  I’ve also encouraged him to change his behavior for the better and offer a positive, inclusive vision for our country, but he has not.  It's clear that he hasn't changed and has no interest in doing so.  As a result, Donald [Sleezebag] is a man I cannot and should not support. The actions of the last day are disgusting, but that’s not why I reached this decision, it has been an accumulation of his words and actions that many have been warning about.  I will not vote for a nominee who has behaved in a manner that reflects so poorly on our country.  Our country deserves better."

[E_T]

A Statement from Gov. John Kasich






John Kasich·Saturday, October 8, 2016
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"Nothing that has happened in the last 48 hours is surprising to me or many others. Many people were angry and questioned why I would not endorse Donald T rump or attend the Republican Convention.  I’ve long had concerns with Donald T rump that go beyond his temperament. We have substantive policy differences on conservative issues like trade, our relationship with Russia, and the importance of balancing the federal budget.  I’ve held out hope that he would change on those disqualifying policy positions, but he has not.  I’ve also encouraged him to change his behavior for the better and offer a positive, inclusive vision for our country, but he has not.  It's clear that he hasn't changed and has no interest in doing so.  As a result, Donald T rump is a man I cannot and should not support. The actions of the last day are disgusting, but that’s not why I reached this decision, it has been an accumulation of his words and actions that many have been warning about.  I will not vote for a nominee who has behaved in a manner that reflects so poorly on our country.  Our country deserves better."

so, does that mean that he supports Hilary or whom??

[E_T]

Many Republicans are now wanting [Sleezebag] off the ticket and have just Pence run...

So, with less than a month to the election, exactly how does that work?? 

And will [Sleezebag] gracefully bow out?  Personally, I think that he will act the baby that he really is and throw a tantrum.

The RNC might want him off, but what can they legally do to remove him from the Ballot, if Donald refuses to step aside? 

If Write-ins for Pence alone are counted, how do you interpret them, as he is already as the VP on the Ballot?  Could Trumps Lawyers say that it also meant him?

Will the RNC just cut off all funding and the only "support" that he will receive will be his supporting Super-PAC's.  AS Ads are payed in Advance, can the RNC only pull the ones that they can control and will the ones that [Sleezebag] controls keep them up (the ones already payed in advance)?

If Nov 3rd comes around and he is still on the ticket ( :shudder: and wins), how will the Electoral College do it's thing??

Is this the Death Knell for the Republican Party?

Will [Sleezebag] be on the Stage tomorrow Night?  Hilary will be, if he is, just to pile it on even thicker.  If Pence tries to go on instead of [Sleezebag], will they let him?

Will Trumps diehard supporters care, and still vote for him?

[Buster's Uncle]

Elok says it turns out it won't happen because the ballots are already printed...

That actually sounds credible to me.