A world full of surprises

[t_ras]

As you land in this new plannet, in an unexpected way, you figure out the little you know about it...and about what ever is waiting for you there. Luckily you have a basic map of the planet the main computer managed to make before the break apart and the frequncies to what you hope, are the other factions comm links.  Not sure if you really want to call them though...
Well...nothing you can do now, no way back and your poeple are looking up to you and waiting for orders, if you hasitate, you loose them.
"Open the pods" you hear your self saying, "we're going out!"

The goal is pair victory of two humans which can not be military.
The map is visible, but fog of war is activated, so it is more realistic.
All factions have all the comlinks and may use it from the begining.

Factions
roninscg   UNI
Bari -> Armageddon   PK
Earthmichael   GAIA
demiurg   t_ras
AI: Hive,Spartans,Usurpers

[t_ras]

roninscg	UNI
Bari	PK
Earthmichael	GAIA
demiurg	Drones

@demiurg - please send me a copy of each turn. thanks.

Enjoy

[roninscg]

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[Earthmichael]

The goal is pair victory of two humans which can not be military.The map is visible, but fog of war is activated, so it is more realistic.
All have all the comlinks and may use it, as I believe it is more realistic also.

I have a question of the pairing up.

Is there some point in the pairing where the tearms are irrevocably linked?  Otherwise, you have to be very wary about contributing to the success of your partner, if they can change alliances after you have contributed to their growth.

I would strongly prefer it if between the 4 of us, at some point we declare permamemt teams.

t_ras, since you wrote the scenario based on pair victory, what did you have in mind here?

[t_ras]

I was thinking you can change sides whenever you want.
Notice it can not be more then two players also, which means if you leave your partner at the last moment to win with someone else, you would have to convince that someone to leave his partner first.
On one hand this means you can play with a partner all the game and then in one last turn be left for victory with another one. That means you can not accept a situation where you are the "small" partner, all 4 humans will have to be sure they are at the same level if they dont want to be be left for some one else. But again, this last scenario will probably be possible if you have two strong factions and two weak ones, else there is no reason for the partners change.
This type of game will emphasise diplomatic game.
On the other hand you can choose to enforce the pairs after a fixed number of turns (60-80?) and then the game will emphasise collaboration and good planning.

I was thinking of the first type, but is you who should enjoy it, so it is your call.

[t_ras]

 roninscg did you also mailed the turn?

[roninscg]

@t_ras
Yes, i meiled turn to next player,

[Bari]

2101 to monty


good luck gets an have fun

[t_ras]

no one has comments on Earthmichael's remarks?

[Bari]

well, i got your idea from the first time, and it allows players to be cunning. we will have to be carefull who we will make an alliance with. i loved it then, love it now 

[Earthmichael]

If we are going to have a team win, I like the idea of have the possibility of a permanent (unbreakable) pact.  No one is ever forced to enter into such a pact.  But if someone agrees to a perma-pact, then they cannot break the pact for the rest of the game, enforced by the CMN.

I have been playing diplomatic games for over 30 years, dating back to the original board game version of Diplomacy, the board game version of Civilization, etc.  What I have found that in the long run, the best way (to me) to play is to never break your word.  So if I agree to a 20 turn pact, I won't backstab on turn 18 even if I could get a great advantage from it.  If i agree to a unbreakable pact, I won't break it even if it causes me to lose the game.  In the long run, my reputation for always keeping my pacts results in games which I find to be much more enjoyable.

Of course we will have regular (breakable) pacts as well, that is fine. 

t_ras, will you enforce an unbreakable pact if two players agree to have one at some point during the game?

[demiurg]

turn sent to university, t_ras here is the turn too

[t_ras]

I have no problem enforcing this, though I would suggest you not to make does pacts too early, you might not know what you'll be loosing.

I just remember I was also a "Diplomacy" player. I used to make pacts with every one till I could win and in the last turnI would break all pacts and win. I did it again and again, and people stil made pacts. this is because you never noe if and when you will be cheated, and if you are offered and fair pact which does not give too much to the other side, you will accept. what you dont know is that the other side has the same pacts with every one, and a little bit from every one is a lot...I loved that game....I almost never lost.

[Earthmichael]

I sent the turn to demiurg for the Free Drones about 6 hours ago.  I am posting in case there is trouble with the email.

[roninscg]

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