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RULE:
no cloudbase,
no empath guild.
copter limit to max 4 attack
Yitzi patch 3.5d
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Hi,
I'm newbie in this forum. I just PBEM at SMAX with my brother at transcendent level. We do not use any patch, but for this game I'm open to install some.
I would like to play with standard SMAC factions and 7 players. Would be nice at least 1 turn for day (but no problem if you can't play on weekend, it's just a game ;) ).
Other rules, blind research, the biggest map and the other standard rules that I read on this forum for online games.
We may select random factions, or if you prefer and all agree, choose your favourite faction.
If we can't reach 7 players, my brother would be happy to join us (he just follow the facebook page, not the forum).
With my brother we use a dropbox shared folder for sharing the PBEM save, how do you do here?
I'm newbie, so I'm open to suggest. :)
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Usual practice these days is to post the save in the Turn Tracking Thread and/or email it directly to the next player.
You'll have much better luck -both starting a game and actually playing it to conclusion- with less players...
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I would be glad to participate
However, I suggest using Yitzi's patch as it is commonly used by players here
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Hi there,
I understand you want a full house, but I'm afraid you will never get to finish a 7-player game. In fact, you will never reach the mid game. Trust me on that one, people will have delays and/or drop out. Each new player adds to that exponentially. The standard game is 4-player.
You can count me in for something like that.
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Hi there,
I understand you want a full house, but I'm afraid you will never get to finish a 7-player game. In fact, you will never reach the mid game. Trust me on that one, people will have delays and/or drop out. Each new player adds to that exponentially. The standard game is 4-player.
You can count me in for something like that.
We can play with the "accellerate start" (the option that give us some cities, technologies and one random secret project at beginning). Maybe we can reduce the map size too.
Ok for the yitzi patch.
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Well, I forgot to mention that SMAC players are not maybe the most dynamic online community these days, so you can have problems gathering just 4. Is your brother in?
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...And could Mart set up a game for y'all?...
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Yes, I can setup the game.
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Good ol' Mart.
Now we can wait until you don't find 7 players, czar, or you realize that it's just too many, and we're good to go.
I understand you want a full house and I had the same exact idea when I began my MP gaming, but it's all for the better to start with 4 players.
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I'm a dreamer :D
Maybe we can wait one week? I can link this post to the facebook group
At the moment:
me
my brother
Kurvivor
Kirov
BUncle????
Mart????
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If Mart is setting up the game, he is not playing.
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If Mart is setting up the game, he is not playing.
It was mostly an hope... ::)
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You wouldn't want me.
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You wouldn't want me.
Yeah, when you hit BU with a nuke, he'd just keep deleting your turn posts until you come to your senses and reload.
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...It's because I'm evil, you see...
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When somebody use planet buster and U.N. rights are still valid, the other human players are forced to do war and never make peace again?
PS: sorry for my english ;lal;
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When somebody use planet buster and U.N. rights are still valid, the other human players are forced to do war and never make peace again?
I understand and appreciate your concern about human rights, my friend. Alas, most players around here are not above atrocities and as a consequence, it is up to players themselves to pick their reaction and they can continue to do business as usual with a mass murderer should they choose to. You're not restricted by any moral rules when conducting your diplomacy. Sad but true.
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When somebody use planet buster and U.N. rights are still valid, the other human players are forced to do war and never make peace again?
I understand and appreciate your concern about human rights, my friend. Alas, most players around here are not above atrocities and as a consequence, it is up to players themselves to pick their reaction and they can continue to do business as usual with a mass murderer should they choose to. You're not restricted by any moral rules when conducting your diplomacy. Sad but true.
So dp the motion to repel U.N. rights is nearly useless? :(
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So dp the motion to repel U.N. rights is nearly useless? :(
This motion had always very little to do with nukes, which are considered a major atrocity, i.e. one that overrides any changes to the Charter (the vendetta is automatic with the AI).
However, the motion is hardly useless. I hear evil players can use it to employ nerve gas and other minor atrocities freely, without a hit to their commerce. Although the truth is, by the time the repeal proposal is researched, they will have probably already gassed everyone else.
You need to ask some evil player for more details, though.
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Ok. I give up, no more players around.
We can start the game. Somebody think would be useful some additional rule?
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(https://media.giphy.com/media/pDgHg2Lcju3Ty/giphy.gif)
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Ok, rule i propose is to set drone riot handling to whatever it is set on my computer, for the benefit of all
That being said could someone create the game? BUncle? Maybe another mod?
After someone comes forward, we can send our passwords to him and finally start
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Ok. I give up, no more players around.
We can start the game. Somebody think would be useful some additional rule?
It would be good, if your brother has an account here and can download/upload turns on the forum.
Any more settings for the game?
I will make scenario for Yitzi patch 3.5c (the latest now)
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I'm sorry I don't write here, kinda busy these days but I'm open for another game. Can play most settings, so come up with yours. My traditional suggestions: Empath Guild and Cloudbase Academy banned, choppers nerfed by attack or movement or the 'no base attacking' rule.
I can play virtually any faction so I don't show up with my pick (may be as well Data Angels if you don't mind), feel free to pick sth up for me.
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czar? Hello? Have you given up?
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No, ok, I'm still in!
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You should get in touch with the person who will set up the game for us then and we will begin
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Can I recommend blind research? Turns out it has a great deal of benefits for gameplay and the seeming randomness is far less important than expected.
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Can I recommend blind research? Turns out it has a great deal of benefits for gameplay and the seeming randomness is far less important than expected.
Surely blind research.
I will add too the option for start with some cities.
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I am in! but can you link the patch ? :D
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patch (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=349)
Another week with no activity. It seems this game will start about never
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Ok, my brother, mogre, now is in. Can we start?
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Yes, we can start, let me gather your settings.
- we play original 7 factions, though the game will be SMACX.
I guess, I will either assign factions or get random for every player... :) We do it rarely here. Players tend to choose themselves.
- accelerated start, I was thinking to give more starting units, colony pods, formers, scout patrols, maybe something more. Scattered start too, like in civ4.
- map size, larger size will give you more builder style, at least in the beginning, though it increases micromanagement. A custom size would be interesting, something between standard and large?
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Yes, we can start, let me gather your settings.
- we play original 7 factions, though the game will be SMACX.
I guess, I will either assign factions or get random for every player... :) We do it rarely here. Players tend to choose themselves.
- accelerated start, I was thinking to give more starting units, colony pods, formers, scout patrols, maybe something more. Scattered start too, like in civ4.
- map size, larger size will give you more builder style, at least in the beginning, though it increases micromanagement. A custom size would be interesting, something between standard and large?
Ok, for all.
I will prefer large (usually I play with huge), but it's ok too standard size.
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(http://www.reactiongifs.com/tumbleweeds/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=tumbleweeds)
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All died?
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Sorry dude, I was away for a month. I'm here and ready to play if the others are. Barring us, I won't say no to a 2-player game.
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sup guys. If player is needed, i can volunteer o/
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Ok, with my brother we're 4 at the moment.
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Ready to go
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i'll like to play as miriam thanks. Don't care much else about settings
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I will prefer random factions, but if you can't live without miriam is ok :D
Could somebody set the game?
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oh random faction is fine if thats a thing kek
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Won't object to random faction - as long as the game starts...
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If it is ok for all I will start the game.
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Data Angels for me.
Hello, funbot! I remember you very clearly and I hope to start as far away from you as possible. :P
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Data Angels for me.
Hello, funbot! I remember you very clearly and I hope to start as far away from you as possible. :P
Whahahahaa :D. Come on, i can be a nice guy too. I gues you just forgot to appease our god with tech/energy on a regular basis ^_^
*edit* Btw seems liek random factions is moar preferred on this gaem, And with standard smac factions ;)
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If it is ok for all I will start the game.
Welp, I have nothing against this. I assume you won't do any map editing then on placements and stuff then? Which also im totally fine, i have all the faith for rngjesus to be on my side 8)
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Ok, so 5 players:
czar
Kurvivor
Kirov
mogre
funbot
anymore player?
Smacx, random strandard factions, Large map, lowest coverage for ocean, middle settings for clouds and native lifeform, accellerate starting, trascendent level, blind research, Yitzi's Unofficial SMAX patch 3.5c.
I missed something?
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I didn't pay much attention to the settings - particularly random factions and the quickstart, but if you guys discussed it and are fine with it, I'm with you too.
Let's land on the Planet!
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I missed something?
All seems fine to me
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czar: ;deidre;
Kurvivor: ;yang;
mogre: ;zak;
kirov: ;miriam;
funbot: ;lal;
I used 3.5d:
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=352 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=352)
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=346 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=346)
From gaia to yang
PS: Must we modify something about helicopters? I left all standard
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*edit* nvm, i just major derped here, removed message to hide my dumbnes
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Oh, so I'm the Miriam now? Well hello, funbot!
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dude, i'm liek protected by the U.N. mandate and all, you can't touch this! .... *sigh* Fiiiine *showering Kirov with tech/energy on a regular basis*
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Oh, so I'm the Miriam now? Well hello, funbot!
;lol
Miriam is my favourite too. :)
However just to know, I suppose that you had some games together, who are the strongest players?
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Oh i've basicly just played one game only here on this site (which lasted only 30 turns kek), so cant really say. Although I won that game 8)
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I am certainly not strong at all
I still die to mindworms sometimes
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is it allowed diplomacy between players? and is it allowed to exchange technologies between players or cpu?
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is it allowed diplomacy between players? and is it allowed to exchange technologies between players or cpu?
common rule has been that yes to both, but only if you have met the faction ingame.
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Sorry for the delay guys, but I ran into a problem. Can anyone help me out?
What I did was simply copying my 3.5c folder and adding the 3.5d terranx.exe into it. However, I get the error below. What did I do wrong?
Again, sorry for my late start and these days are busy here.
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*shrug* gues you better do a clean install first, instead of overwriting 3.5c
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Can you guys check your game version? I use the latest terranx but in-game it still says 3.5c.
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And I'd almost forget - have fun and good luck to you all!
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to ;deidre;
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I used 3.5d
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I don't know why, but some players get the forum's name and other not. I set the names to all.
PS: where are you playing from? Me from Italy.
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Yang, you're being played by Kurvivor.
Czar, I'm in Poland.
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Yang, you're being played by Kurvivor.
I know
Sorry for delay. I was unable to play on last weekend.
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;zak;
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;zak;
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I must say I've screwed a bit, I wasn't aware that the first blind res options you choose are for the entire quick start. Oh well...
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=> ;yang;
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=> ;yang;
Are u sure? I should play after you. I'll give a try
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To Yang ;yang;
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tu univercity ;zak;
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I can't open the save, it gives me an error. then Kurvivor, can you upload the file again?
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Sure, i will reupload it later today
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Anoher attempt
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;zak;
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Do we have any special rules for this game? No EG, no choppers, etc.? I can't find anything.
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Do we have any special rules for this game? No EG, no choppers, etc.? I can't find anything.
Don't know, I'm newbie about MP game, what's EP? Why should we ban copter?
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Don't know, I'm newbie about MP game, what's EP? Why should we ban copter?
Usually we agree not to build Empath Guild for being overpowered as fek, and also we tend to limit usage of copters (like highest attack score allowed on chopters is 4 or such).
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I hate to impose any rules midgame, but I doubt that anyone's gameplay so far would have been affected.
The most common agreement is that the Cloudbase Academy is OP and needs to go.
Most but not all players agree that the Empath Guild is OP, especially among the folk who know how to protect their bases. Free infiltration via an SP is, in my opinion, completely ridiculous. I always argue strongly against that and if I don't get my way, the EG inevitably becomes my priority.
Aircraft in SMAX is hugely OP in general and could use some serious nerfing. Barring that, we usually agree that either or both of the following rules are adopted: 1) Choppers can't use better weapons than 4, 2) Choppers can't attack base tiles. It stems from the fact that choppers are even more broken than the jets and can easily and swiftly empty even well-defended bases. In short, air power makes infantry and navy obsolete, good only for taking bases.
If you guys asked me, I would nerf aircraft movement down to 6. However, this would required changes to everyone's alphax.txt files.
Another OP unit is a crawler and I'd love to play without it one day... Oh well, next time I'll put it on the table.
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to yang ;yang;
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Ok, if for all is ok we can agree:
no cloudbase,
no empath guild.
What is SP? Special project? You mean that has no sense free infiltration via empath guild?
what is fek?
And what about Hunter seeker algorithm? Is overpowered too.
For copter limit to 4 attack max it's ok.
I will let the aircraft as is.
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Yup, all those houserules sound good for me.
And yus, sp is secret project, and fek is just milder way to say the F-word kek.
Hunter seeker has gotten bit nerf on the expansion, so don't feel it is as op as it used to be imo.
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To univercity
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;zak;
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To sexy, sexy funbot.
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To sexy, sexy funbot.
:-*
To czar
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to yang ;yang;
so we all agreed about:
no empath guild
no cloudbase
max copter to 4 attack
do we need other?
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I hsve no objections and no wishes except forgiveness for my tardiness
-> ;zak;
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I'm away till Wednesday. But don't hesitate to send the turn on, I'm taking a SMAX on a flash drive (have no idea how the connection is in the mountains, though).
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I hsve no objections and no wishes except forgiveness for my tardiness
You are forgiven, my son.
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My brother, Mogre, had some problem and couldn't play, but he will play between today and tomorrow.
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the rules are ok for me. and sorry for delay but I had bad connection.
---> ;miriam;
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Sorry for the reload, the game crashed when I selected a certain unit. And I forgot to take the mouse for my laptop so please understand that I'll allow myself a reload if there is a painful misclick. It's not easy to play with a touchpad. Nevertheless, the turn moves on.
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to czar
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No problem Kirov :)
to yang
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Sorry, i missed this somehow
Will submit my turn today
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To our russian friends
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to ---> ;miriam;
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on
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to czar
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to yang ;yang;
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Toc toc... :danc:
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-> ;zak;
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to ---> ;miriam;
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To the pleasure unit.
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*peep poop* Party party party :danc:
to czar
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To Kurvivor: ;yang;
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To Provost
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;miriam;
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To the kinky sinner.
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sinner?! It's not my fault peeps keeps leaving their capitals backdoor open ::)
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to the commie ;yang;
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Human Hive are not drones, though
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yang it's your turn
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Extremely sorry, uploaded wrong file
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;miriam;
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sinner?! It's not my fault peeps keeps leaving their capitals backdoor open ::)
Do you see that, guys? Don't let his tender skin and supple cheeks fool you - he's dangerous. Think Priss of Blade Runner.
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Do you see that, guys? Don't let his tender skin and supple cheeks fool you - he's dangerous. Think Priss of Blade Runner.
Preposterous! (Thouh naow i mast crush u for making such absurb and bit of dangerous claims of me).
Btw, cant build recriation commons.. Wonder whats thats all about :p
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to Yang (or Yin?)
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My, what a drama
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;miriam;
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Preposterous! (Thouh naow i mast crush u for making such absurb and bit of dangerous claims of me).
Awww, he's so cute!
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There are anybody around?
Do you just don't have time or simply forgot to check the forum?
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Funbot is usually quick to play, I'll ping him by PM/email. On the other hand, sometimes people are just busier IRL.
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oh wow, i have literally no idea why my brains have liek totally ignored the notification or common sense to check forums anyway. Sry for massive delay, totally inexcuseable :-\
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Me and my brother for our matches use a facebook group. Maybe it's better because we get the notification in our smartphone.
To yang ;yang;
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As a reminder: no contact unless we actually meet, yes?
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Yes. After can we spoke only in game? How do you usually do?
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;miriam;
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And on
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Yes. After can we spoke only in game? How do you usually do?
True. The default alphax gives contact to all other players, nevertheless you must meet in game to conduct any kind of diplomacy.
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oh i see whats going on here. The notification to my email is totally busted i see >_>. Cant nothing [intercourse gerund] work in this [messed up - or loved very much] up world of ours?
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Problem with your datalink? I can send some engineers...
to Yang ;yang;
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to our Russian friends
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;miriam;
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:danc:
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=>
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To yang ;yang;
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It is year 41 in the save. It seems save file is wrong
PS. in my opinion, numbering saves is a better way then reusing the same name
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I downloaded my save, loaded and it says Yang 2143.
Maybe you messed the files.
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Right you are
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;miriam;
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Please bear with me for a small delay. My copy doesn't work under Win10. If a solution fails, I'll play from my laptop, but I freakin' hate playing SMAC from that.
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I bear with you
(http://www.wikiality.com/file/2016/11/bears1.jpg)
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I'm so sorry guys. Not only RL hit me, but I had/have somewhat of a crisis with SMAC (although my other game is much more affected), recently I upgraded to Win10 on my main rig and it won't start SMAC under any circumstances (I have vanilla GOG, tried all those compatibility options, nothing). My laptop starts the game but I got 3 crashes during unit movement. Eventually I had to dust off my previous rig, composed mainly of dust and wires for the past 4 years. It won't add to my speed if I have to rely on a separate computer, but I'll do my best to be faster in the future.
Turned on.
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I'm so sorry guys. Not only RL hit me, but I had/have somewhat of a crisis with SMAC (although my other game is much more affected), recently I upgraded to Win10 on my main rig and it won't start SMAC under any circumstances (I have vanilla GOG, tried all those compatibility options, nothing). My laptop starts the game but I got 3 crashes during unit movement. Eventually I had to dust off my previous rig, composed mainly of dust and wires for the past 4 years. It won't add to my speed if I have to rely on a separate computer, but I'll do my best to be faster in the future.
Turned on.
It's just a game ;)
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It's just a game ;)
Can't say I agree. ;) I think it's the first time in like 13-14 years that I don't have a working SMAC on my rig. "I loved my chosen". :D
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to yang
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to provost ;zak;
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to sister ;miriam;
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I don't know why but my Yitzi patches don't seem to work. Before I take a look at it, I use vanilla with I believe scient patch.
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I don't know why but my Yitzi patches don't seem to work. Before I take a look at it, I use vanilla with I believe scient patch.
Do you use 3.5d?
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welp, i've been rather unexcited with all these games for a while and just generally tired, so i think i'm just gonna pass on all the current alpha games i'm playing on this forum, sry and bb! (and ye i know, file is wrong kek)
-edit- my password is praiseqwerty
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Mmmmh... So we should find a substitute :-\
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That's most unfortunate
onwards
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welp, i've been rather unexcited with all these games for a while and just generally tired, so i think i'm just gonna pass on all the current alpha games i'm playing on this forum, sry and bb! (and ye i know, file is wrong kek)
-edit- my password is praiseqwerty
I can't say I'm impressed by this behaviour, especially since you started both games and twice failed to mention your high excitement expectations. And publishing passwords for everyone to see is the opposite of damage control and trying to help. I'll have to warn other players not to join your games in the future.
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Mmmmh... So we should find a substitute :-\
The SMAC community is without doubt the most honourable and respectable one on the entire Internet, but it may still be not enough to convince someone to join if their password is clearly visible. We have two games and several players (me, Kurvivor, Neville, czar, mogre) left in the lurch. Maybe we should regroup somehow?
Kurvivor, a frank question - can you commit to do your turns faster? I'm the last one to throw a stone here, but you seem to struggle with your obligations for a couple of months now. A turn per week is indeed too slow and I kinda expected people to drop out because of it sooner or later. Do you think you could do something about it?
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...We need an impartial CMN to fix these games...
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Just to know, on 28 July I will get married ^^' so for a month during honeymoon I will not able to play. ^^'
I hope we can continue playing the game :)
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Kurvivor, a frank question - can you commit to do your turns faster? I'm the last one to throw a stone here, but you seem to struggle with your obligations for a couple of months now
I can offer nothing in my defense. Well, i kind of miss turns when i get distracted and stop checking forum and emails
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Hihi.
Ivan from Italy (czar?) mentioned on an SMAC fb group that you needed a player to step in. I would love to join. At least take a test run for 1 month if that's okay.
I've been a fanatic smac fan since release. I'm a 31 year old programmer from Iceland. Spend most of my time in front of a PC so I'm, easily able to commit to a turn per day. It's been a dream of mine to play against humans, with roleplay and real politics involved.
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Yes, it's me.
Anybody around?
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Still here
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I'm eager to start standing watch over human rights on Planet with any means necessary :danc:
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I'm here, but it'd be lovely if I'm not the one setting up the game, finding the CMN, etc. Sorry for being a princess, but I'm really busy these days.
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Y'all need to nag sisko out of CMN retirement...
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What do you mean with "setting up the game"? Changing the password for funbot? What is a CMN?
Y'all need to nag sisko out of CMN retirement...
???
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The other owner - he trained all the CMNs who've been active worth mentioning here as CMNs besides Mart, I think - or at least trained the CMNs who trained them. -They keep having babies and/or new jobs and dropping out. I think he's ready to come back if he decided to, though, and a PM inbox full of MPlayers begging for his help would be a start.
Coach Moderator Narrators - because of some bug in SMACX, creates game setups as scenarios with a map and faction placement that ensures a fair game. They also fill several needed leadership roles, settling disagreements and such, gamers being what they are. Kirov can hopefully amplify on this explanation...
Command Nexus was humming along at the beginning of last year, but has kinda limped into low-activity sucking since when Mart had his job situation change and Kirov has been unable to find time to do anything but play. We need sisko back at the wheel - we need someone in charge to encourage players to get their turns in promptly and recruit replacements for the games that recently crashed, and get new games set up and going in a timely fashion and make sure everything's fair and fun... Things are better in MP when there's someone providing leadership, and it needs to be an MPlayer trained in the arcane arts of doing it...
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What do you mean with "setting up the game"? Changing the password for funbot? What is a CMN?
See, that's what I'm talking about. ;) Usually I knew what's going on with my games, I'd contact people, discuss rules, etc. These days however I have so much more other stuff to do. I could blindly accept any settings (except for the iron set of house rules, i.e. removing the Empath Guild and Cloudbase Academy and nerfing choppers) and just start to play. I have no idea at the moment what remains to be done in order to get our game(s) back on track.
And yep, BU explained it right when it comes to CMN (although I think it starts with Creator). A Game Master if you will. It's either that or we start a random game, and these can be really random, to the point when someone can get eliminated purely due to dumb luck.
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I could blindly accept any settings (except for the iron set of house rules, i.e. removing the Empath Guild and Cloudbase Academy and nerfing choppers) and just start to play. I have no idea at the moment what remains to be done in order to get our game(s) back on track.
We already agreed on this rules. (And my bad English don't let me grasp all the conversation :D)
So what do we miss to start to play again?
Starting a new game?
That bjarnirafn use the funbot password for our current game? In this case Kirov is the next to move.
I'm open to all, let's me know what do you prefer.
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If we can't get a CMN then I'm okay with playing with the old password. I'll just roleplay it and imagine that since I'm playing Lal that all my decisions are made by voting in the General Assembly and in the spirit of transparency everything that goes on in there is broadcasted to the people.
If I was playing Yang on the other hand...
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Sister Miriam labs are more active than us... :'(
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Ain't that true
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Hi guys, I've just tried to do my turn, but I'm away on holidays and on my laptop the game crashed 3 times, always right after my last move. I tried to change my behaviour, hoping it's some one specific move I make that ends in crashes, but to no avail. I'll push the turn first thing when I get back, on Monday-Tuesday at the latest.
I'm sorry for the delay and my general not caring, but I thought we have to do something arduous to get the game back on the track, and my mind was (and still is) elsewhere. I wasn't even aware that it's my turn now and we have replacement. If it's just doing quick moves, I'll do my best not to delay this game anymore.
For better or worse, this should happen soon, as I'm going to be eliminated by an alien ogre. There is one parked right next to my second base and there's absolutely nothing I can do to stop it from completely destroying everything I have (I don't even have Applied Physics). So there is that, one player will drop out soon.
I'm quite sure that with some of you, I have another game going, also left by funbot, when I was playing Miriam. Could someone care to tell me what's going on with that?
Again, sorry for having treated you like that, I hate when people do this, but SMAC has been low on my priority list recently, due to some serious stuff in RL. I hope to make up for it, but my laptop tells me na-ah and I need to wait until I get back to Warsaw.
Be back with you soon.
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Onwards to our new player. Whoever you are, buddy, welcome aboard! Unless you're already gone, in that case, I'm sorry as it's my fault. :/
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