Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Command Nexus => Topic started by: Mart on November 30, 2014, 11:44:20 PM

Title: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on November 30, 2014, 11:44:20 PM
PBEM game, For Those Still Around, turn tracking thread

Dio               Conclave (Believers)
Vishniac       Cybernetic Consciousness
Kirov            Morganities



No AI, Empath Guild and Cloudbase Academy set to destroyed. All 3 factions start in 2101. To speed up first turns, there are some additional units. Standard size map.

patch version: Yitzi patch 3.3b

Passwords will be sent to players once they confirm, they play.
2101 to Conclave (Believers) attached.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Geo on December 01, 2014, 04:19:30 AM
Can't start a game now. I'm off for an extended vacation in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 01, 2014, 11:59:21 PM
@Mart, I am interested in taking control of the Believers for this PBEM. Is this acceptable?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on December 02, 2014, 03:03:55 AM
I wrote to Kirov, so let us wait and see, what he decides.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 02, 2014, 03:17:09 PM
I'm game, count me in.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 02, 2014, 04:33:41 PM
I think that answers my question currently and I will stay away from this PBEM.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on December 02, 2014, 04:35:51 PM
Dio, Caretakers are then left
or I can replace this alien faction with another in scenario editor. Even Believers as a second faction (you could use different graphics sets)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 02, 2014, 04:45:35 PM
Dio, Caretakers are then left
or I can replace this alien faction with another in scenario editor. Even Believers as a second faction (you could use different graphics sets)
Then I would take the Spartans since the Believers are being controlled by Kirov.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 02, 2014, 04:48:52 PM
Sorry Dio, I didn't even see what you meant in your post.

I can give up this game or give up the Miriams for you, no problems. Give me, let's say, Morgan, and I'm fine.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on December 02, 2014, 04:52:57 PM
And I'm left with decision...
I'm inclined to set Morgan for Kirov and leave Believers for Dio

Meanwhile, we still need Vishniac response.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 02, 2014, 04:58:46 PM
Sorry Dio, I didn't even see what you meant in your post.

I can give up this game or give up the Miriams for you, no problems. Give me, let's say, Morgan, and I'm fine.
I would rather you not give up this game because then there would be no other sure players. I do not mind which faction I play but would take the believers if you are certain about not needing to use them.
I have attached a slightly renamed version of the believers if that is okay with Mart that includes no changes to the bonuses or penalities.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on December 02, 2014, 06:28:40 PM
I have seen the file, so there are only naming difference, and you can have it in your game folder while playing this pbem without affecting the faction in different way than other players.

Also, we can still use the first save, just when you play your first turn, Dio, you can introduce these changes to the game (and save files from now on) in:
menu > network > faction ... (+)
There you can change faction name, leader name, adjective, etc.
The first base will be named according what believe.txt says, though.

Ah, ok, I have to place Morganities anyway... :)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 07, 2014, 11:59:54 AM
Here I am!

I still have to figure which patch or version I am on currently.
I was about to see that with the new GotM.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 07, 2014, 07:30:06 PM
Does that mean you would like me to take the first turn?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on December 07, 2014, 08:05:37 PM
I have to make changes to the scenario and then game can start.
There will be attached a new save.

===

So the file is attached for the Conclave.
Passwords sent.

Good Luck!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 07, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
To ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 09, 2014, 06:28:04 PM
Ok, patch downloaded. I think everything's ok.

2101 to  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 09, 2014, 06:38:23 PM
Got it. Good luck guys, and have fun with this game. Also, please put the MY number at the end of the save name - I think only then the game will increase it automatically (and it's easier to read for me).

Onwards to the Bible Thumpers!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 09, 2014, 06:47:57 PM
To the silicon grafting Cybernetic Organisms.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 09, 2014, 07:33:30 PM
The game is starting fast. Good!

To the oligarque!  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2014, 03:57:41 PM
To the oligarque!  ;morgan;

It's the 'job creator', thank you very much.  :P
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 10, 2014, 08:08:37 PM
To the cyborgs.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 10, 2014, 08:38:59 PM
To the Morganites

EDIT:
I shall use this post and maybe others to download images or files.
Facebook won't allow me to transmit them.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2014, 08:55:12 PM
To the 99%.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 10, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
To 99.91 moles of Si.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 10, 2014, 09:16:27 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2014, 09:23:44 PM
What happened to the Stockpile Energy bug in Yitzi's patch? Normally we're supposed to put the Stockpile Energy in the build queue after units. Has anything changed when I wasn't looking?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 10, 2014, 09:26:55 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 10, 2014, 09:35:30 PM
I don't know much about bugs, never use them anyway.
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2014, 09:44:03 PM
This is not really using a bug, it's actually mitigating a bug (that the game gives you money but only after facilities). Anyhow, we either use it or refrain from using it all. So what's your vote? If Yitzi hadn't fixed it, then using the stockpiling helps (as it should) factions more oriented towards unit-building. On the other hand, it sure is tedious, although you can quickly get used to it.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 10, 2014, 09:49:29 PM
I am fine with it as long as it does not give an undue advantage. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 10, 2014, 10:05:38 PM
Well, let's use it then since noone can control who uses it or not.
That said, it would help to know whether it's effective or not.

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
OK, so remember to put the Stockpile Energy in the build queue after units and only after units. Using it after facs will actually lose you money. We need to ask Yitzi if anything has been done with it.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 10, 2014, 10:12:32 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 10, 2014, 11:01:44 PM
To the Morganites
(and going to bed)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 10, 2014, 11:04:44 PM
Sleep tight, then.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 10, 2014, 11:09:24 PM
Goodnight and onwards next time.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 06:19:36 AM
Seems there is no need to put stockpile energy. I didn't get any EC more.

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 09:17:12 AM
Yitzi said a long time ago he was going to take care of it. Alright then, let's drop the stockpiling.

Onwards to you, hippies!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
To ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 05:02:20 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 05:08:07 PM
Success requires hard work, business acumen and constant striving for excellence. And here you are, playing video games.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 05:16:34 PM
I put my faith in christ and pray for my salvation. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 05:36:00 PM
We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.

To the (soon to be assimilated) Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 05:39:13 PM
Wow guys, what a turnout. On the one hand, it's good, on the other - you really need to get a job.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 05:44:48 PM
How would you know whether or not I have a job? To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 05:53:18 PM
1) We've been waiting for 6 months for this game.
2) It's 6:50PM here. Job's over.

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
 :P As a good Morgan, I make sure I deal with achievers and men of success like me. Good, good, I see we'll be able to do business.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 06:02:36 PM
To Aki.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
*** False file ***
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 06:13:01 PM
Fixed.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 06:25:22 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 06:29:41 PM
to Dio. If you buy the Old Testament at only 2.99 EC, now you'll get the sequel for free! What d'ya say?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 06:34:29 PM
Unfortunately faith can not be bought and perhaps you might learn some valuable lessons in morality from reading the original.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 06:56:56 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 07:00:41 PM
I'm fully with you on that morality stuff; I haven't breached any terms and conditions of sale for years.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 07:03:32 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 07:14:04 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 07:18:54 PM
to the Conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 07:35:11 PM
To the Morganites.

Kirov: as you are the last one, we're waiting for you to give us the Chiron News if some come.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 07:41:43 PM
"Morgan Inc. continues to flourish."
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 07:46:18 PM
Information regarding the status of the Conclave is kept from non-believing heathens.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 08:11:11 PM
to the Opus Dei.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 08:15:55 PM
To the cyborgs.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 08:35:24 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 08:41:13 PM
Onwards.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 08:46:03 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 09:09:23 PM
To the Morganites

Let's try to reach 2120; I'd like to see the powergraph.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 09:12:10 PM
I'm here for at least an hour.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 09:36:52 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 09:44:05 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 09:46:11 PM
here you go
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 10:16:07 PM
Interesting.

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 10:22:45 PM
Indeed. Sorry guys, last turn tonight, I need a brain reset and I need it now. Take care!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 11, 2014, 10:28:06 PM
Goodnight. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 11, 2014, 10:29:44 PM
You didn't upload the turn. ;) Bye!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 11, 2014, 11:18:26 PM
To the Morganites.
Morgan is ahead with techs! :-\  Did you already discover Secrets of the Human Brain?

Tomorrow I'll only be home from 5:00 to 6:30PM. After that, away till Sunday evening CET
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 12, 2014, 03:26:11 AM
Nope, but I focused everything I had on optimum research. And switched to FM this turn. :)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 14, 2014, 07:57:56 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 14, 2014, 11:00:35 PM
Nope, but I focused everything I had on optimum research. And switched to FM this turn. :)
FM with abundant native life  :o
A bold move!
With the Believers somewhere out there and my already numerous (and deadly) encounters with worms, I am much more conservative.

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 15, 2014, 07:17:59 PM
I'm used to playing abundant; the bugs sure gonna bug, but early FM can be potentially very powerful.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 15, 2014, 08:48:28 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 16, 2014, 05:50:32 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 16, 2014, 06:00:52 PM
To the gingers.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 16, 2014, 06:06:08 PM
To the blond.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 16, 2014, 06:18:55 PM
The black

Hum, my conservatism shows: I am now on top of military force!  :)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 16, 2014, 06:22:38 PM
And as usual, I have no military worth mentioning, so don't mind me.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 16, 2014, 06:28:08 PM
I have initiated the Weather Paradigm. To both salt and pepper hair and clone shell.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 16, 2014, 06:45:36 PM
My military is merely an escort force at this time. And it has much work to do...

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 16, 2014, 06:48:47 PM
I'll be able to do one turn in ca 40 minutes, and then puff! - I'm gone for tonight.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 16, 2014, 06:54:39 PM
My military is primarily exploration and escort at this point. To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 16, 2014, 07:10:14 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 16, 2014, 07:54:49 PM
and I'm gone.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 03:49:30 AM
"Since we have landed on this planet, we have been stricken by all kinds of obstacles that we have overcome through our devotion and faith in God's will. What keeps us different and hidden from the other factions? We know CEO Morgan and his money loving followers have the most technology and wealth. However, I believe that his money and technology can neither buy nor trade for the loyalty and devotion of the follwers to our religious cause. Meanwhile, I believe Prime-Function Aki-Zeta 5 has brutally assaulted the individuality of her people by inserting algorithms into their brains in order to create her vision of "perfection". What Aki-Zeta does not understand is that hard work and religious devotion will more than make up for the efficency gained through the use on her human population of cold and ruthless transformation techniques. My belief is that is that religious devotion to God is a concept Prime Function Aki-Zeta 5 will never be able to dissect nor quantify with her algorithms and computer models. It also my belief that the other faction leaders will never understand how our religous commitment and faithfulness will continue to drive The Lord's Conclave through times of prosperity and struggle."

-- Sister Miriam Godwinson,
Speech to the Believers at Great Conclave

To Prime Function Aki-Zeta 5 of the Cybernetic Conciousness and CEO Nwabudike Morgan of the Morgan Conglomerate/Morgan Industries.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 06:15:25 AM
You are wrong, Sister!
My researchers have discovered the Secrets of the Human Brain and thus are fully able to comprehend your concept of god and what it induces for your followers.
What we can understand, we can fight!

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 11:32:24 AM
It's so hot what you're saying! I like your reasoning and I think you're both absolutely right, it's just your ideas need a better PR to get the message across. Merchandise, commercials, pay-per-click banners - everything you may possibly need in one lucrative, comprehensive marketing agreement, just sign here and here.

And if you ever meet each other and feel the need to talk it out, I will have non-exclusive arms deals (or exclusive, for additional margin) for either both of you or the higher bidder.

So Halleluyah and/or take care, Spock!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 01:55:07 PM
To Prime Function Aki-Zeta 5.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 05:06:50 PM
To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 06:50:45 PM
to the developing factions.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 07:19:05 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 07:31:22 PM
To the Morganites

Tomorrow I can play around noon then on Friday noon then no more until Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 07:37:49 PM
on
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 07:41:39 PM
On to  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 07:54:59 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 08:01:17 PM
to the less fortunate.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 08:05:26 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 08:16:03 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 08:20:30 PM
conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 08:24:27 PM
Cyborgs.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 08:32:54 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 08:35:30 PM
beliebers.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 08:39:28 PM
To the cyborgs.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 08:48:48 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 08:53:10 PM
Miriam.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 08:57:17 PM
Aki-Zeta 5
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 09:07:18 PM
Morgan
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 09:13:15 PM
Enjoy, lads.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 09:19:24 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 09:32:56 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 09:35:36 PM
on
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 09:38:43 PM
on to  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 09:47:43 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 09:53:54 PM
conclave
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 10:08:56 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Miriam
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 10:31:24 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 10:36:05 PM
 ;miriam;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 10:39:32 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 17, 2014, 10:53:10 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan; and good night!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 17, 2014, 11:01:01 PM
Good night, dear friends!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 17, 2014, 11:09:56 PM
Good night and to  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 18, 2014, 12:10:37 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 18, 2014, 12:23:30 PM
to the nuns.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 18, 2014, 03:50:21 PM
To the algorithms.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 19, 2014, 11:43:12 AM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 19, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
Guys, Christmas is coming so in the holiday spirit I’d like to offer you my mother for sale. She is absolutely great at cooking and her gefilte fish alone is worth any money. She’s in good technical condition, on minimum diet (she’s used to it) she should make it for at least five years more. However, I’m selling her “as is”, with no guarantee period. Trust me, I’m cutting my throat for you anyway. She’s my mother, after all.

The minimum price is 20 EC (or equivalent in jewellery), highest bidder wins. Instalments are negotiable.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 19, 2014, 04:32:03 PM
Buying another person is unthinkable to us because we are the only force on this planet attempting to uphold standards of human decency and morality. If you are willing to sell your own mother, what other atrocities are you willing to commit?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 06:04:58 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 06:15:23 PM
Buying another person is unthinkable to us because we are the only force on this planet attempting to uphold standards of human decency and morality. If you are willing to sell your own mother, what other atrocities are you willing to commit?

All right, all right, I can see you're a good negotiator. 15 EC and I'm practically covering my shipment fees here.

Also, the Planetary Transit System is poised for completion.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 06:19:37 PM
Buying another person is unthinkable to us because we are the only force on this planet attempting to uphold standards of human decency and morality. If you are willing to sell your own mother, what other atrocities are you willing to commit?

All right, all right, I can see you're a good negotiator. 15 EC and I'm practically covering my shipment fees here.

Also, the Planetary Transit System is poised for completion.
:o. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 06:59:05 PM
Also, the Planetary Transit System is poised for completion.
So we are to post everytime we are about to finish a SP?

Starting with Applied Physics and diverting my research for Secrets of HB disturbed greatly my beelining to Automation. Well, there are enough interesting SP in the early game that everybody can have some. That said, your start is impressive.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 07:10:25 PM
It is a nice custom to announce when you're about to finish an SP, so that other players don't waste their time trying to rushbuild it. You are not forced to follow this practice, though.

I find SotHB not worth the effort so early. Even worse, they actually clog your research. The more you can focus on IA, the better (although I went to Biogenetics and CE first, but I only do it as Morgan).
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2014, 07:14:22 PM
I believe the house rules are that whomever begins the mission year and gets all the beginning-of-turn announcements is obliged to pass them along - primarily the SP-about-to-finish ones.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 07:15:00 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 07:34:24 PM
Since I wanted Rec Tanks and Rec Commons, I could as well get Secrets and a free tech.

I think Yitzi's patch prevents me to see what happens at the end of the turn. I don't see worms appear and attack, or spore launchers bombard. And I get messages about forest expanding near Morgan cities but not near mine.

To the Morganites.  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 07:40:52 PM
I'm away for about an hour, then I can play more.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 07:43:48 PM
@ BU: I'm quite sure that announcements on any events are not obligatory per se, it's just polite to do it.

@ Vishniac: In-game messages have always been mixed up. It's normal to get other faction's forest spread messages and so on. It doesn't work like in single player.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 07:46:11 PM
Understood. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 08:17:42 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;

Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 08:38:46 PM
to the Conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 08:47:23 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 09:05:38 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 09:10:58 PM
The Human Genome Project is poised for completion.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 09:14:12 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 09:28:12 PM
The Human Genome Project is poised for completion.
Ok, I'm officially afraid now.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 09:40:02 PM
You don't have to, I'm only after your money! But yeah, I understand that I'm probably pushing you two to an inevitable alliance now.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 09:45:39 PM
And money can be used as a weapon. I am concerned as well. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 09:56:23 PM
No meeting --> No communication --> No alliance.
I'm on my own for the moment.
Thinking out loud, I could say that at least the Believers shouldn't outtech me but when I see this little badge saying "Planet Rising GotM Winner extreme level"...  ::)

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 10:01:53 PM
Yep, that sure was quite a feat.

To Bloody Miriam.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 10:07:42 PM
That GotM was hard. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2014, 10:17:13 PM
...Have you played through The Zookeepers?  It was supposed to be a real killer - Davyboy swore it gave him nightmares...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 10:19:10 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;

Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 10:27:14 PM
I need to find that Zookeepers scenario.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 10:34:30 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2014, 10:37:18 PM
I need to find that Zookeepers scenario.
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=1478.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=1478.0)

It'll kick your butt, from what I'm told.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 10:45:40 PM
One of the most fun and innovational GotM and a good challenge was Armaggedon.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2014, 10:52:56 PM
One of the most fun and innovational GotM and a good challenge was Armaggedon.
?

I can't find a GotM with Armaggedon in the name going back over five years.  Is that something from before my time?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 10:53:49 PM
Thanks for the tips, I'll look into them.

Also, Dio: thanks ;) (that scenario was supposed to be hard).
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2014, 10:57:13 PM
A city called Armagedon ?

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=8560.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=8560.0)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 11:01:43 PM
After 50 years on this planet, we are still alive and working on the Lord's blessed plan. Now our secret project, the Weather Paradigm, is near completion. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 21, 2014, 11:16:50 PM
A city called Armagedon ?

http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=8560.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=8560.0)
Precisely!

Good night. I won't be able to play tomorrow or perhaps very late. Other days will be erratic but I'll be around my computer. Stay tuned...

To the Morganites
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on December 21, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
It is unfortunate, and very frustrating, that Darsnan won't work with us...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 21, 2014, 11:23:04 PM
Yeah, he is certainly missed.

Good night, my sweet princes and future business partners. I hope we all meet on the same Board of Directors.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 21, 2014, 11:47:07 PM
Good night and to Aki-Zeta 5.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 22, 2014, 10:08:06 PM
A question if the answer doesn't reveal key points of your strategy:
Kirov, why did you choose the HGP instead of the WP ?
I would have thought the possibility to double terraform rates is unbeatable as must have. Mines, boreholes, rivers...comparing with 'only' 2 drones less.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 03:54:35 AM
Maybe this is my mistake, I know how people love the WP and I used to love it, too, but now I lean towards drone-related SPs more. Remember that early WP only gets you foresting faster, early boreholes at -/2/2 are not that good, while drone SPs can help you both expand early and pop-boom later.

Besides, for Morgan there is this nice synergy of the PTS + HGP, when you build new bases at 1 talent/1 worker/1 drone. This can potentially much more powerful army of formers, and with energy points to boot.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 04:14:05 AM
There were other factors behind my want for the Weather Paradigm. Remember that I can field a large number of Terraformers for free. Also I would like to report a bug at one of my bases.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 04:55:52 AM
I reported the bug and I am okay with continuing as is. I simply wanted to note that a minor bug was presently effecting a single base under my control.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 09:32:30 AM
What is the bug?

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 11:57:03 AM
I've just realized that with all that money I get, I'm the closest we have to the Batman.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 04:24:26 PM
One of my bases is not supporting as many units as it should for free.
I also know that Morgan is probably going to take over this planet since he is now working on the Maritime Control Center.
To  ;aki;.
Edit: Fixed to the correct file.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 05:27:07 PM
*** False File ***


(The Maritime Control Center?!? Man, how many techs are you ahead of me to get Doctrine Initiative?  :-\)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 05:37:39 PM
*** False File ***


(The Maritime Control Center?!? Man, how many techs are you ahead of me to get Doctrine Initiative?  :-\)

That is the same thought that went through my head and then I realized this:
1. He starts with Industrial Base.
2. He has built the Planetary Transit System and Human Genome Project. This means he has Industrial Automation which requires Planetary Networks and Industrial Economics.
3. Doctrine: Initiative requires Doctrine: Flexibility and Industrial Automation.
4. So he at least has Information Networks, Planetary Networks, Industrial Base, Industrial Economics, Industrial Automation, Doctrine: Mobility, Doctrine: Flexibility, and Biogentics.
5. He is probably running Free Market and Wealth which nets him +4 energy per base with an additional +1 energy per square.
6. His next target is probably Doctrine: Air Power and perhaps Adaptive Economics.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 05:47:30 PM
A bad thing that I can't get messages about when spore launchers destroy my enhancements.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 06:16:19 PM
Add Social Psych and Ethical Calculus. Not for a moment my breakthrough term was longer than 5 turns, and very often it was 3-4 turns. Actually at one moment I had to check my alphax.txt to make sure I use the proper file and I verified in the editor that my tech cost is correct. But it is, no doubt. That's the power of early FM and overall high ECONOMY combined with the PTS.

Also, I opened the game with Biogenetics, commenced 2 x Merchant Exchange and then immediately rushbought RecTanks when I got the tech. I kept doing it and now all my base tiles produce 7-9 energy, with additional bonus of food and mins.

If I may suggest something, I believe the best way to catch up is to focus on bases & population, i.e. mainly horizontal growth. Can't focus on fancy facilities and stuff like that until you have 'meat'.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 07:12:44 PM
Impossible to focus on "bases & population" only when I am under heavy attack from native life. Each turn I have 2-3 messages from attacks despite my military roaming the fungus to prevent them.
Whatever I do what I can.  8)

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 08:13:39 PM
I'm not sure you can prevent native life by roaming fungus. In fact, you only produce more of it. I just try to keep my head down, scout with one probe team, and so far I had maybe 3 worms since I switched to FM.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 08:22:19 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 08:42:46 PM
I'm not sure you can prevent native life by roaming fungus. In fact, you only produce more of it. I just try to keep my head down, scout with one probe team, and so far I had maybe 3 worms since I switched to FM.
Lucky man!
This turn only I had to burn down 3 worms. It brought me some money but that tells the story: they are everywhere.
I am pretty sure that a unit roaming a fungus square for the first time has much more possibility to spawn a worm than the second unit which will enter it. So I send my scouts to clear the way to my formers.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 08:50:08 PM
I'm quite sure those are independent events, although I never checked for sure. What I believe in turn is, you're much less likely to encounter worms in fungus adjacent to your base tile. My empire for many reasons is very condensed, almost 1x1, and perhaps this is why I don't encounter worms so much.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 08:53:55 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 09:09:27 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 09:41:41 PM
I'm super sorry, I was in a rush to the shop and forgot to tell you - the VW is now completed.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 09:48:27 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 10:02:35 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 10:09:47 PM
Tenderly to the Conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 10:16:08 PM
With the utmost care to the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 10:29:38 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 10:36:54 PM
We'll hopefully meet soon.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 10:45:18 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 10:53:41 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 11:06:34 PM
On.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 11:22:01 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 11:34:51 PM
to the Conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 23, 2014, 11:43:50 PM
To the Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 23, 2014, 11:51:31 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 23, 2014, 11:54:59 PM
Miriam, darling, your turn.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 24, 2014, 12:05:41 AM
I do not like that tone  :(.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 24, 2014, 12:15:12 AM
Planetary Energy Grid completed next turn. Ouf!
Spore launchers are taking a toll on my terraforming.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 24, 2014, 12:23:56 AM
Congrats on the PEG.

I'm sorry Miriam, I'll save that tone for when I want to annoy you. ;)

Guys, are we sure we all use the latest Yitzi's patch?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 24, 2014, 12:34:30 AM
I am certain that I am using Yitzi's most recent patch.
Dear CEO Nwabudike Morgan:
I Would you like to donate some of your valuable energy credits to the Citizen's rescue fund of the Conclave as a christmas present for all of the unhappy Citizens on this planet?
 
Signed
Yours truly,
Sister Miriam Godwinson
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 24, 2014, 12:49:11 AM
I confirm: Yitzi 3.3

Morgan is now #1 in military too...

Good night and merry Christmas!
I probably won't play until Dec. 25.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 24, 2014, 01:02:38 AM
Dear Miriam, I'd love to help! I adore children and I'm widely considered a children's person. Look at their cute faces, which don't even know how to say 'trade union'.  :danc:

Which reminds me, where do you stand on the issue of the so-called 'child labour'? Because if you have an open mind, it's a win-win situation for many children and even their agents too.

Good night guys and don't worry about my military - it's just a bunch of probes with armour 2 for support-free protection purposes.

I'll be away in the UK 26.12 - 05.01 but will try to install SMAC there and squeeze in a turn or two.

Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 24, 2014, 01:14:37 AM
To the Consciousness and Goodnight :).

Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
2 formers lost to worms, 4 spore launchers in sight...
Bad planet!

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 04:00:47 PM
Hm, it's strange how our experiences differ and I'm on the FM... I lost one former to a worm this turn, 2-3 scouts earlier on,, but basically that's it. And I'm practically defenceless against them.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 04:51:55 PM
I ran into a few mindworms early in the game. To  ;aki; .
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 05:59:46 PM
I am probably to blame. I was more afraid of some early rush by the Believers that I put emphasis on exploration.
I sent 4 probes to explore, and they did, but when they ran into worms and launchers they were of course unable to attack them. Now all those awaken things come back to haunt me...

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 06:21:06 PM
Well, this would certainly be some explanation. I just hope you didn't doom the entire humanity.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 06:27:49 PM
Someone is attacking me. Please take one of my bases  :D.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 06:39:33 PM
The only ones I have doomed are probably only my own faction: a few rovers will take care of that alien scum but my developpement will suffer again.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 06:48:36 PM
I'm very sorry to hear that.

#IsupportCyborgs

Here, I hope this helps.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 06:58:32 PM
Nothing yet. However, I suspect someone is behind this sacrilage.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
Probably a Morganite cruiser probe...

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 07:48:42 PM
Most certainly not! Brother Dio, what happened over there?

Incidentally and on a completely unrelated note, the MCC is poised for completion.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 08:01:27 PM
To  ;aki;. It was perhaps mindworms...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 08:14:08 PM
Incidentally and on a completely unrelated note, the MCC is poised for completion.
If it wasn't a cruiser probe this time, it surely will be next time...

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 08:22:11 PM
Have I ever let you down, my friend? I'm on your side.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Have I ever let you down, my friend? I'm on your side.
No :(. To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 08:53:33 PM
Guys, why are you running Planned economies? Haven't you read Ayn Rand? I know she can be too socialist sometimes, but all in all, that's the closest I can recommend. You must teach your followers how to fish. And then lease them fishing rods.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 09:03:28 PM
To  ;aki;.
Dear Morgan: This is only a temporary condition in the necessity of Baby Booming to create more fanatics followers. I think more followers equals more customers, correct  :)?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 09:15:56 PM
Guys, why are you running Planned economies?
Haven't you read Ayn Rand?
You must teach your followers how to fish.
Why the plural?
Haven't you read your intelligence reports?
You must teach your followers how to write them properly.  :D

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 09:26:36 PM
Miri, I'm afraid you pregnant teens hardly have any purchasing power. But if my poor people need your poor people to get some simple work done, I'll let you know.

Aki, it was a right move to drop the Planned, but why stop halfway when you can choose the Free Market? Anything else is suboptimum.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 09:35:30 PM
To  ;aki;.
Dear Morgan:
At least my pregnant teenage followers are raised with a high moral standard and a strong belief in god  :P.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 09:43:31 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 09:54:03 PM
I'm very happy to hear that, Dio. I'm a man of exquisite empathy and I like to think that poor masses actually like their hopeless, miserable, wretched lives. It's so good your people have religion as consolation.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 10:01:50 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 10:17:34 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 10:26:23 PM
To the Jehovah Witnesses.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 10:35:39 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 10:48:23 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 10:58:55 PM
Oh, how I didn't like this turn. No sir, I didn't.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 11:09:19 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 11:22:06 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 11:33:24 PM
 ;miriam;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 25, 2014, 11:39:29 PM
 ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 25, 2014, 11:53:10 PM
I get an "ERROR READING FILE" in opening the turn; can't even access the window asking for the password.
I tried downloading it again and retrying but it doesn't play.
Problem with me or with the patch? Someone can try?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 25, 2014, 11:56:34 PM
I'm quite sure Dio needs to replay his turn; this should suffice to fix this.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 26, 2014, 12:00:39 AM
I replayed my turn.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 26, 2014, 12:11:32 AM
Neural Amplifier completed!  8)

Good night and to the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 26, 2014, 12:26:01 AM
Congrats on the NA! Now you can push worms around.

Guys, tomorrow I'm leaving in the afternoon and I'm away for 9 days. I will try to install SMAC and find some time, but definitely not raids like we have (and which I really appreciate). We'll make up for it after 5 Jan.

Take care, lads!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on December 30, 2014, 12:15:05 AM
To ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on December 31, 2014, 04:31:47 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 05, 2015, 02:28:47 PM
Sorry for the delay, guys, I was unable to play SMAC. Happy New Year and may God have mercy on you.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 05, 2015, 04:29:07 PM
To  ;aki; from Auntie Miriam.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 05, 2015, 05:57:47 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 05, 2015, 06:46:45 PM
to the Conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 05, 2015, 06:55:35 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 05, 2015, 07:39:21 PM
Nobody wants the Merchant Exchange?
Fine, I use it as a placeholder.

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 05, 2015, 08:00:29 PM
to our allies.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 05, 2015, 10:21:00 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 05, 2015, 10:39:29 PM
to our allies.
Boasting or bluffing.
Nobody sane would give you more money while you're already first. (but is Miriam really sane?  ???)

To the Morganites and good night!  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 05, 2015, 10:50:10 PM
We are our allies, aren't we? I want to be your friend. Forever. And ever. And ever.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 05, 2015, 11:16:05 PM
We are our allies, aren't we? I want to be your friend. Forever. And ever. And ever.
We are our own best allies. I wonder about the morality of living forever.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 05:13:58 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 05:30:11 PM
Of course I meant "we are all allies". I guess Christmas spirit is still with me.  ;morganercise
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 06:16:30 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 06:46:44 PM
to Miri.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 06, 2015, 06:49:21 PM
(http://www.theviewscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/miri1-300x229.jpg)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 06:57:37 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 07:21:44 PM
No Merchant Exchange anymore... :'(

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
Congrats on the ME, Dio? Who's that lady, BU?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 07:46:04 PM
To the Cybernetic Consciousness.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on January 06, 2015, 07:49:12 PM
to Miri.
(http://www.theviewscreen.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/miri1-300x229.jpg)
Who's that lady, BU?
Miri - the title character of a Star Trek episode.

Many geek points off for having to ask...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 08:10:42 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 08:27:40 PM
Cute lady, although I admit I was never particularly fond of...  ;lynchmob aah, nevermind. :)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 08:37:48 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 09:01:55 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 09:12:14 PM
To beautiful Miri.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 09:27:32 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 09:48:58 PM
So, Kirov, are you running with the game?

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 09:57:10 PM
What can I say, Vishniac. It kinda starts to look so.

I think this is my last turn tonight, maybe I'll try to push the next one.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 10:19:43 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 10:43:29 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 11:06:30 PM
to the Fundamentals.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 06, 2015, 11:28:45 PM
To the cyborgs.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 06, 2015, 11:42:45 PM
Good night!
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 06, 2015, 11:57:04 PM
Good night, my dearest friends! Let us make even more money tomorrow.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 07, 2015, 01:00:41 AM
To Prime Function Aki-Zeta 5.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2015, 11:35:45 AM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 07, 2015, 11:57:19 AM
A turn for Miriam, now free of charge. A special offer made just for you. Because here at Morgan Industries, we care.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 07, 2015, 03:37:29 PM
To Prime Function Aki-Zeta 5.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2015, 04:41:38 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 07, 2015, 06:41:11 PM
to Dio.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 07, 2015, 07:14:03 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2015, 07:35:21 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 07, 2015, 08:05:21 PM
For the Morganic way of life!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 07, 2015, 08:20:01 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2015, 08:42:12 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 07, 2015, 08:56:41 PM
Prime Function, I may have bombarded one of your bases, but nothing personal really, I'll try not to do too much of that in the future. Once again, sorry for the inconvenience.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 07, 2015, 09:14:01 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2015, 09:39:07 PM
So Morgan revels in hubris of power now...and is not afraid to talk about it.
Well, you got me infiltrated, that I know, but you won't get anything more, believe me!

To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 07, 2015, 09:55:15 PM
Well, you got me infiltrated, that I know, but you won't get anything more, believe me!

I believe you.

Gentlemen, you have a unique opportunity to elect me as your Planetary Governor! Choose wisely.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 07, 2015, 10:27:53 PM
I reject this election as nothing more than a sham. No matter how we vote, you will win.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 07, 2015, 11:00:28 PM
Indeed: he has more than all our votes combined!  :o

To the Morganites and good night!  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 07, 2015, 11:26:29 PM
Thank you for your support, I'll do my best to be a most benevolent Planetary Governor! :) We all won in these elections.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 08, 2015, 02:06:33 AM
To Prime Function Aki-Zeta 5.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 08, 2015, 11:37:52 AM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 08, 2015, 11:58:38 AM
To the Conclave.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 08, 2015, 02:43:46 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 08, 2015, 05:17:21 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 08, 2015, 06:16:05 PM
To our brothers in faith.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 08, 2015, 06:47:25 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 08, 2015, 07:19:03 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 08, 2015, 09:55:08 PM
The Command Nexus is poised for completion.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 08, 2015, 10:05:33 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 09, 2015, 05:57:49 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 09, 2015, 06:32:07 PM
 ;miriam;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on January 09, 2015, 06:54:43 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 09, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
Last for tonight.
To the Morganites  ;morgan;
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 09, 2015, 08:02:31 PM
Have a nice Friday night, lads.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on January 16, 2015, 03:04:11 PM
It's been a week, mates, how are things?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 16, 2015, 04:05:19 PM
I am waiting but I shall be on vacation and without Internet from Sunday noon to Tuesday 27.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on January 27, 2015, 02:38:57 PM
Still nothing ?!?  ???
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: sisko on January 27, 2015, 06:09:37 PM
Maybe a PM can help?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on February 09, 2015, 07:26:15 PM
4 days and no answer.

Shall we declare Kirov the winner and call it a game?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 03, 2015, 12:09:43 PM
Vishniac, I barely remember this game now and I think I indeed had some considerable advantage, but do you want to resurrect it with some other player? We kinda left it hanging there.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 03, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
Dio is active again for the summer - maybe try him again now w/ PM?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 03, 2015, 01:09:24 PM
I obey thee and I've done just that.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Dio on July 03, 2015, 05:58:32 PM
To  ;aki;.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 03, 2015, 06:25:18 PM
Wait, wait, wait!
Nothing against playing on but I create a new SMAC folder on my desktop for every patch used.
That means I shall recreate a Yitzy 3.3 folder to launch.

Is it it or do you launch it with your current Yitzy 3.4?
(I hope I was clear)
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 06, 2015, 07:31:03 PM
My attempt to re-install Yitzi 3.3b and play gave me this.

Help!
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on July 06, 2015, 07:40:48 PM
The problem may be line before or after, this is from my alphax.txt for 3.3
Code: [Select]
Disable, ; Technology to double effectiveness of ECM and AAA abilities
1,       ; If non-zero, probe teams can steal technologies {under -2 billion to over 2 billion}
1,       ; If non-zero, humans can always contact each other in net games {under -2 billion to over 2 billion}
It could be missing colon or semicolon.
And exe, is it 3.3, not other version? But it seems unlikely.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 06, 2015, 07:48:30 PM
Vish, that's the screen you get when you didn't apply the .txt supplied with v.3.0, I believe.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 06, 2015, 10:35:17 PM
Vish, that's the screen you get when you didn't apply the .txt supplied with v.3.0, I believe.

Ah!
Let's see...
Yes!
Quote
Yitzi's unofficial SMAX patch 3.3b

terranx.exe
...
...
...
As always, this requires the text files from version 3.3.

Hey, guys: why don't you make those patches dummyproof?  :P
Like, you know, one click and it works.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 06, 2015, 10:37:31 PM
To the Morganites  ;morgan;

(Not sure what good can come from this: Morgan has 4x my population... ::))
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 06, 2015, 10:48:13 PM
Dio sent his turn but he told me he'd be unable to play. I can ask bintravkin. I'm not sure if we find someone with such discrepancies in the powergraph.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 06, 2015, 11:13:14 PM
Hey, guys: why don't you make those patches dummyproof?  :P
Like, you know, one click and it works.
I have asked Yitzi this, and he replied with the old engineer's joke that the world would just make a better idiot.

I do think some attempts at idiot-proofing in his standard release blurbs would do an awful lot of good, but I hate to sound like I'm after him for a refund...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on July 07, 2015, 02:56:50 PM
So Dio is letting binTravkin play Believers?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 07, 2015, 02:59:57 PM
He told me just that via PM.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 07, 2015, 05:35:55 PM
We can play but it will probably turn (and sooner than later) into a 2 vs Morgan.
Unless I play some sort of Fortress Consciousness on my land.
It could end nasty as soon as planes, missiles, busters will be available...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 07, 2015, 06:06:42 PM
Do I absolutely have to use 3.3b on this?
Is it because of drone rules? Which rule is correct for this game?

EDIT: Also, it appears turn is not with Believers atm.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on July 07, 2015, 06:17:11 PM
The 3.3b should have rule 0 (default one from SMAX).
The file (alphax.txt) out of zip patch file should be ok.

The problem is with versions, that they have differences in additional rules. As Yitzi puts new parameters in alphax.txt, this file changes between version. Only sometimes it does not.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 07, 2015, 06:28:34 PM
Lots of updates is the kind of problem we want to have, but it seems it IS a problem for MP.  I hope we can work that out...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 07, 2015, 10:54:36 PM
Not really a problem: just duplicate your whole SMAC folder with a new name and copy-paste the files in patch X.
Thus, you have all your saves with Yitzi 3.3b in one place, all those with 3.4 in another place, the vanilla folder if you need for GotM and so on...
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 07, 2015, 11:17:20 PM
Correction: REALLY A PROBLEM!!
I can't open my files in folder 3.3b with the terranx.exe in this folder: it opens the folder 3.4
 :mad:

Shall we put everything into 3.4?
Strange: yesterday, it worked.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on July 07, 2015, 11:27:44 PM
You can navigate to folder 3.3, going up the folders as needed.
This is cause of entries in windows registry I think
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 08, 2015, 12:55:03 AM
P.S.  Yizi is teh Awesome. ;nod  I just wanted to make that clear.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 10, 2015, 06:12:25 PM
EDIT: Also, it appears turn is not with Believers atm.
Kirov?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 10, 2015, 06:43:57 PM
I did my turn and then I noticed I have a turn with the same year in my folder. Can you check it out?

Also, welcome aboard bT! ;b; Have fun.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 06:52:11 PM
I think this was the last turn.
It seems that the last turn posted is from last page and says 2200 Morgan.
So, shouldn't I be receiving Conclave 2201 now?

Also, do I absolutely have to play it in 3.3b?
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Mart on July 10, 2015, 07:22:31 PM
I have just checked, version 3.4 works ok with this game saves.
alphax.txt are not the same, but the difference is in the last parameter added to 3.4, which is vanila features.
It appears, that when this is not loaded in 3.4 game still works.
Is it without problems, that cannot be seen immediately? I do not know. But probably we may expect no problems.

There are though differences, version 3.4 is more restrictive for a human player:
- rule 8 for drones, not 0, as default before.
- reactor speed increase for copters is 0, not 2 as default before.

You could change these in your 3.4 instal in order not to be in disadvantage against other players, but we come back to the issue, that in other games, where players use "out of zip" alphax.txt, you would be in advantage against them.
Unless you manually change alphax.txt when needed.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Vishniac on July 10, 2015, 07:47:19 PM
There are though differences, version 3.4 is more restrictive for a human player:
- rule 8 for drones, not 0, as default before.
I have changed to 0 in 3.4 and won't change back.

Enough "restrictive" and others "banned exploits" and so on...
If people like SMAC to be a drone management simulation, to each their own but without me
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 13, 2015, 08:33:05 PM
Expect delays, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: FTSA TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 26, 2015, 10:30:26 PM
I did send the turn, didn't I?
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