Waterworld!

[Geo]

Does that mean you relied on the "go to nearest base" feature regarding air units?
If so, you're lucky I didn't switch it off...

[Yitzi]

Uh oh, busted  I have to admit to cheesing a bit using the old infinite air movement bug to shuttle needles around easier..i thought for sure this bug would have been fixed and stumbled on it by accident again when sending out first needle patrols to look for bree units. Didnt expect to be causing a turn freeze issue

In fact (if the bug you're talking about is the one I mentioned), they're essentially the same bug: Once it deals with air unit's movement, it automatically skips all the other end-of-turn stuff, including all the other air units' movement and turn progression (as well as a lot of other stuff I didn't even bother to get a full listing of.)

Since apparently it's known what's causing it and it's easy to avoid, I will just put the bug fix in version 2.5.

[Kataphraktoi]

Does that mean you relied on the "go to nearest base" feature regarding air units?
If so, you're lucky I didn't switch it off...

Nah, the idea is to avoid resolving the air units movement at all. You leave your needlejets on wait position and click end of turn while they still have the ability to move atleast once and on your next turn, the movement points are fully restored. Think it only works in PBEM(havnt really gone into singleplayer since this game started, so i dont know for sure)

[Yitzi]

Does that mean you relied on the "go to nearest base" feature regarding air units?
If so, you're lucky I didn't switch it off...

Nah, the idea is to avoid resolving the air units movement at all. You leave your needlejets on wait position and click end of turn while they still have the ability to move atleast once and on your next turn, the movement points are fully restored. Think it only works in PBEM(havnt really gone into singleplayer since this game started, so i dont know for sure)

It works in singleplayer too (I tested); however, each turn, one unlucky needlejet (I think it'll always be the one that was last to be built) will not have its movement points restored.  Also, whenever you use that exploit (even if there's only one needlejet so there are no actual movement points being restored), it stops the clock: The turn will not advance, sea levels will not rise or fall, the Cult and aliens won't arrive (if somehow you got needlejets before turn 6), and so on; basically, if it isn't specific to one player's turn, I think that using that exploit will make it not happen.

[Kataphraktoi]

however, each turn, one unlucky needlejet (I think it'll always be the one that was last to be built) will not have its movement points restored. 

I havnt experienced this;i just double checked the last few turns and all needles are accounted for and none crashed.

So...what savegame should we continue on from?

[Yitzi]

I havnt experienced this;i just double checked the last few turns and all needles are accounted for and none crashed.

It wouldn't crash, just have its fuel not-restored.  And it might even be someone else's needlejet, if they're also not finishing its movement.

[Vishniac]

And so?
This game is broken or it can be saved?

[Yitzi]

And so?
This game is broken or it can be saved?

If you use the save I provided, and Kataphraktoi stops cheesing with that exploit, you should have no problems.  Well, except for the advantage he gained via said exploit; what, if anything, has to be done about that is up to you.

[Vishniac]

And...whose turn is it to play?
And where are everybody?

[Yitzi]

I think it's Kirov's turn, unless you decide to rewind to before the exploit was used.

[Geo]

And where are everybody?

*pops up right behind a paranoid chairman*
Right here!



 


Not enough (war) info on my parttl make a call.
I have no idea whether  Kirov had more combat or losses due to Kata using the exploit or not.


Perhaps we should convene a special session of the Planetary Council?
Oh wait...

[Kirov]

I don't know guys, I kinda lost my heart to play this game anymore... Not only it's unbalanced, there are strange issues with it, and now Kata's exploits. I'm not sure if it's actually that easy to replay the last four turns so that me and Kata 'pretend' not to know what the other guy does next. On the top of that, I was very lucky with the battle for EG, as I had 5 battles with only 6:5 odds and won all of them.

I think I would vote to call it a tie and maybe consider another game, this time without using even the unlisted exploits.

[Geo]

I feel, as the most affected party, you got the most say in it.

[ete]

Still no AC comp for me, so I won't be able to mapmake for the next one until at least july. Would be sad for the game to be abandoned, and it seems yitzi has tracked down the problem/it should be fixable, but understandable if you guys have had enough.

[Vishniac]

So the game's dead...
Too bad, I had just begun to crush the Bree at last!

Another one?