US Presidential Contenders

[Unorthodox]

No, I get to facebook and that video won't play.  His others do.  Probably a filter thing here. 

Edit, sorry about the language there BU.  My personal curse filter is broken lately. 

[Buster's Uncle]

[shrugs]  I wish stuff like that wouldn't happen, but you kinda have to make a habit of it to get my back up...

[Rusty Edge]

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There! Same deal, the bees are a minute in.
I wish political ads could be positive like this, and that people could feel this way about their candidate of choice.

[Unorthodox]

That was corny. 

[Unorthodox]

So, I go vote in 45 minutes. 

Options under consideration:

Evil I know.  Pro: Outside chance of flipping Utah from Red.  Con:  Evil. 
Johnson:  Pro:  Not evil.  Con: Unlikely to mean a damn thing in Utah, not enthusiastic about him. 
McMullen: Pro: Not evil.  Con: Who?  Don't really know enough about him. 
Abstain. 

Go ahead, pitch me your best. 

[Unorthodox]

Standing in line, a bee art exhibit in display.  A more religious type might consider that a sign.

[Rusty Edge]

Let's see. McMullen.

He's a NeoCon. A former middle Eastern operative for the C.I.A., and a congressional advisor for foreign affairs to the House GOP.   He is a moral Mormon and does respect the Constitution, so I'd agree he's not evil. He'd probably be good for your employer if he were president.

McMullen taking Utah would likely deny [Sleezebag] the presidency. Hillary would win, unless [Sleezebag] flipped a big state and won, or Johnson also won New Mexico to block Hillary.  Since Utah has one more congressional district than New Mexico, McMullen would be the 3rd candidate, and the favorite in the 12th Amendment scenario/ House election

Every vote in every state for Johnson  counts towards the 5% threshold for the official establishment of the Libertarians as a minor party. I think that the two party system is a race to the bottom. With more parties, you don't win by simply trashing your opponent and his party.  It would force a discussion of issues.

Johnson is uncommonly honest, sensible and down to Earth. He's a good decision maker and chess player, even if he's not a trivial pursuit champion. Moreover , he isn't polarizing and won't go on trial after the election. He always considers the Constitution and the entire Bill of Rights. Anybody who votes for him can be proud of him, even if they disagree with all of his policies.

I won't make a case for Clump.

Jill Stein a Harvard educated medical doctor  is very clever, and the closest thing to Sanders on the ballot.

[Unorthodox]

Seen at least 20 people get out of line and leave.

[Unorthodox]

Well that was annoying. 

[Spacy]

Yep.  Now, more annoying as the results start to slither in.

[E_T]

Very close race, PBS atm has T-129; C-104

[E_T]

Hillary gets NM.

[Rusty Edge]

Just watched Johnson's concession speech. It was more positive and upbeat than any I can recall. I've decided to be positive about this election, regardless.

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Anyway, have been watching MSNBC since September. Tonight there is "Such weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth" to quote Moby Dick.

Me, I just cracked a cork to toast the disappearance from my television of Hillary Clinton. If I were her, I'd be in Canada tonight and catch a flight elsewhere from there. If it turns out that she actually wins, she can return. Otherwise, I think that 1) Build the Wall, 2) Lock her up, and 3) nominating Supreme Court justices from that list he got from his sister the judge,  that [Sleezebag] never read are the only things you can expect him to do by way of a mandate.

We took some cash out of the stock market last month, on the outside chance of this. So, not worrying, even thought the "circuit breaker" in overnight futures trading on the DOW. I wonder how many Mexicans will go home for Christmas and stay....

My election experience is limited to PA and WI. In both of these states, the longer the count goes, the more it favors the GOP. I think it unlikely that Hillary will win both, and she needs to. That's why I'm presuming a [Sleezebag] upset. 

[Unorthodox]

And just like that, Halloween mask sales become the only reliable predictor.

[Rusty Edge]

And just like that, Halloween mask sales become the only reliable predictor.

laughing smiley!

Sure beats polls!