Not excited...... not one bit

[Unorthodox]

1UPT can be done well.  Civ didn't, that doesn't mean the whole idea is bad.

[BlaneckW]

I don't think it's a good fit.  It isn't even necessary if the game has artillery or if there is collateral damage.  The question of 1UPT would never be raised with the Alpha Centauri features/ruleset - if you want to  stack, go ahead, but don't be surprised when that stack ends up crippled.

[Spaced Cowboy]

Just Well known ones like Dune wars, Fall from Heaven 2, Planetfall, and Realism Invictcus

[Spaced Cowboy]

Agree, if you want to limit stacking...go ahead...just not 1UPT.

Played a game in the 90's named Red Lightening that was 3UPT, not as bad.

[Yitzi]

Chess has 1UPT and that works pretty well...

1UPT can work well...but you have to design the game around it, and 4X games generally don't lend themselves to that.

[BlaneckW]

Chess has 1UPT and that works pretty well...

Alpha Centauri is not a representative of chess.

[Buster's Uncle]

Someday I'll have to make an AC chess set...

[BlaneckW]

Scout patrol, synthemetal, laser, recon rover...

[Yitzi]

Chess has 1UPT and that works pretty well...

Alpha Centauri is not a representative of chess.

True.  But chess still shows that 1UPT is not the problem; it's using 1UPT in a game that isn't designed for it (such as Alpha Centauri) that's the problem.

[Spaced Cowboy]

1UPT sort of worked in Warlock, but still had issues trying to maneuver around cities and whatnot.

1UPT does not represent a war game very well.

[Green1]

1UPT sort of worked in Warlock, but still had issues trying to maneuver around cities and whatnot.

1UPT does not represent a war game very well.

1UPT seems to work better for tactical and operational war games. The strategic layer it sometimes does not make sense because it is hard to believe 1 tank battalion takes up 20-50 square KM.

Then again, what to do? Some folks would not like zooming into an operational or tactical layer each fight for something like a Civ-like. The only solution I see would be increasing number of tiles. But, that would crush some of the lower end laptops using modern graphics.

[BlaneckW]

I very much doubt there is need for a tactical layer in a Civ game beyond what AC did.  But then, all of the Civ games were a step down from AC in the combat aspect.

[Buster's Uncle]

A SMACX fan?  On my forum?

 

[Nikolai]

A SMACX fan?  On my forum?

 

Svensgaard ftw!