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Community => Council Room => Topic started by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 05:37:08 PM

Title: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 05:37:08 PM

http://www.civforum.de/forumdisplay.php?18-Sid-Meier-s-Alpha-Centauri-(SMAC-SMAX) (http://www.civforum.de/forumdisplay.php?18-Sid-Meier-s-Alpha-Centauri-(SMAC-SMAX))

...There's a little life there, and we can throw them some activity and promote AC2 for those who can manage in English.  The GotM can always use more love...

Title: Re: Wer kann in der deutschen comnunicate?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 05:59:48 PM

Actually, they'd wanna know about the recent releases of the Yitzi and kyrub patches, too, and that stuff drives much more traffic than scenarios, so we can safely assume much more interest...

Title: Re: Wer kann in der deutschen comnunicate?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 24, 2014, 06:02:51 PM

Pfft, that's Monaldino's turf.

Title: Re: Wer kann in der deutschen comnunicate?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 06:07:30 PM

He doesn't moderate in SMACX - I looked.

I'd just like to get the word out - we get mentioned there; (I can pick up a word here and there auf Deutsch to productively look around) and I know without asking that we've got multiple Euros who can get by en allemand, and I'd like that in tedesco/en alemán capacity known...

Title: Re: Wer kann in der deutschen comnunicate?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 24, 2014, 06:15:19 PM

Well, for what it's worth, I know enough German to know I'm worthless at it. :P

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 06:19:30 PM

Just that? :P



Ich hätte gedacht, dachte, ein gebildeter Flemm verwalten haben könnte ...
Ik zou gedacht hebben gedacht een opgeleide Flemm zou lukken ...

Title: Re: Wer kann in der deutschen comnunicate?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 24, 2014, 06:29:13 PM

Quote from: BUncle on May 24, 2014, 06:19:30 PM

Ich hätte gedacht, dachte, ein gebildeter Flemm verwalten haben könnte ...
Ik zou gedacht hebben gedacht een opgeleide Flemm zou lukken ...

If that German line is as much hilarious as the Dutch one, you better stop using Google translate. ;lol

(I would have thought thought an educated [Flemm] would succeed...)


Actually, it is way easier to me to make myself understood in Switzerland then in Germany. Most people are multi-linguistic there and don't mind having mixed-language sentences/conversations.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 06:36:52 PM

What's so funny?  That's an okay translation you give - I meant "manage".  I misspelled Flem or should have said Fleming or something?

I know I'm probably looking stupid whenever I use GT -I've been told, and Boddisey had to moderate a bunch of my Google Translate French to spare me embarrassment recently- but I can't even get by en français or Latine, which I studied long ago.  We're international, and I have to just take the hit from time to time.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 24, 2014, 06:40:39 PM

Mmm, on further reflection, "educated" should be replaced with "trained", and "succeed" by "manage". So the meaning/translation goes more in the realm of manual labor.
"Fleming" would indeed be better. Especially when using a translator tool.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 06:42:57 PM

Ah.  See my edit while you were posting.

I did say educated.  Educated people are more likely to be more multi-lingual and more fluent.

I can't begin to do anything about cultural idiom my ugly American self knows nothing about.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 06:45:29 PM

...We've got a rule against mocking anyone's English as a second language, but nothing in there about mercilessly laughing at my Google Translate foreign language attempts. :D...

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 24, 2014, 06:50:23 PM

Quote from: BUncle on May 24, 2014, 06:45:29 PM

...We've got a rule against mocking anyone's English as a second language, but nothing in there about mercilessly laughing at my Google Translate foreign language attempts. :D...

There's a distinction. I wasn't mocking YOUR multi-linguistic capabilities, but Google Translate results. ;cute

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 24, 2014, 07:11:18 PM

Your English is excellent, so I'm not mocking it when I urge you to look at what you quoted and reply "Wha'did I just say?"

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: sisko on May 25, 2014, 07:41:09 AM

@BUncle: you can try your luck with Armageddon

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Nikolai on May 26, 2014, 04:00:46 PM

Ich kann etwas Deutsch Sprechen und Schreiben. Aber meinen könnenshaft ist nicht gut.:( Und ich habe est nicht Gebraucht für 10 Jahre. ???

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 26, 2014, 04:25:03 PM

Quote from: Nikolai on May 26, 2014, 04:00:46 PM

Ich kann etwas Deutsch Sprechen und Schreiben. Aber meinen könnenshaft ist nicht gut.:( Und ich habe est nicht Gebraucht für 10 Jahre. ???

I'm proud to say that I picked out enough known words and cognates from that to have understood the gist of all but all but the last phrase before running it through GT to be sure.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 26, 2014, 07:39:42 PM

For educational purposes and a laugh, here's what I puzzled out before checking in Google Translate:

"I can [unknown] speak and write in German. [something] my communication is not good.  :(  And I have not [I didn't know the words for study or year, so the rest a blank - something for 10 something.]"

English is DEFINITELY a Teutonic language, not mangled French, as some joke.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 26, 2014, 08:21:37 PM

Quote from: BUncle on May 26, 2014, 04:25:03 PM

Quote from: Nikolai on May 26, 2014, 04:00:46 PM

Ich kann etwas Deutsch Sprechen und Schreiben. Aber meinen könnenshaft ist nicht gut.:( Und ich habe est nicht Gebraucht für 10 Jahre. ???

I'm proud to say that I picked out enough known words and cognates from that to have understood the gist of all but all but the last phrase before running it through GT to be sure.

Literally translated, it would sound a bit funny. Liberally translated, Nikolai writes "I can somewhat speak and write in German. But my knowledge isn't that good. :( And I haven't used it in 10 years." ???

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 26, 2014, 08:42:37 PM

I'm proud of getting the gist at all - never studied German.  I AM mostly German, but just picked up the odd (easy, common) word from being widely read - and again, cognates once you're used to the spelling style, and the grammar is a lot closer than most languages.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 26, 2014, 08:58:35 PM

Quote from: BUncle on May 26, 2014, 08:42:37 PM

I'm proud of getting the gist at all - never studied German.  I AM mostly German, but just picked up the odd (easy, common) word from being widely read - and again, cognates once you're used to the spelling style, and the grammar is a lot closer than most languages.

"Ik ben er trots op om de essentie te snappen - heb nooit Duits geleerd. Ik BEN grotendeels van Duitse afkomst, maar pikte eenvoudigweg hier en daar een woord op door veel te lezen - en, opnieuw, begrijpen eenmaal je aan de stijl gewend bent, en de grammatica komt meer overeen dan de meeste talen."

 :D

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 26, 2014, 09:02:30 PM

Dutch or fake gibberish?

I'm sure it ain't German, and I'll need some time if you want me to try to puzzle it out and humiliate myself trying to translate what I can.  I've picked up less of the other Teutonic languages...

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 26, 2014, 09:24:51 PM

If it is gibberish, that's because of your weird sentence structure. ;cute
it's a Dutch translation.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 26, 2014, 09:47:20 PM

Humiliated already.  :-[  Should have spotted the parallels.

I'm not much for kernel sentences, am I?

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Nikolai on May 26, 2014, 11:56:02 PM

Quote from: BUncle on May 26, 2014, 04:25:03 PM

Quote from: Nikolai on May 26, 2014, 04:00:46 PM

Ich kann etwas Deutsch Sprechen und Schreiben. Aber meinen könnenshaft ist nicht gut.:( Und ich habe est nicht Gebraucht für 10 Jahre. ???

I'm proud to say that I picked out enough known words and cognates from that to have understood the gist of all but all but the last phrase before running it through GT to be sure.

I did that without checking any dictionary, hopefully it was readable for ze Germanz amongst us.:p

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 27, 2014, 03:28:01 PM

Well, it was very readable to me, and German isn't my mother tongue.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 28, 2014, 04:50:15 AM

...But his mother is a sharp-tongued German...

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 28, 2014, 04:38:48 PM

Aren't all mothers? Sharp-tongued I mean...

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 28, 2014, 04:44:43 PM

HA!  My buncle powers strike again.

My mom is more passive-aggressive.  Dad was the one with a mean mouth on him.

Neither actual Germans, though.

Title: Re: Wer kann in der deutschen comnunicate?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Monaldinio on May 28, 2014, 06:56:27 PM

Quote from: Geo on May 24, 2014, 06:02:51 PM

Pfft, that's Monaldino's turf.

Tzzzz, im only a modder...Not a mod!
Buncle, how can i help you?
My english isnt the best, but should be enough to translate your thoughts...

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 28, 2014, 07:04:11 PM

Nothing specific.  I just want SMACers to be better able to find us.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Lord Avalon on May 29, 2014, 12:46:03 AM

Ich habe einen Bleistift. - Dave Letterman

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 29, 2014, 02:01:18 AM

I was doing fine until Dave got to the last word...

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 29, 2014, 06:26:09 AM

Letterman?

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 29, 2014, 06:34:03 AM

He's a talk-show host from the American Midwest, who used to throw a lot of pencils over his shoulder through the fake window behind the desk to a fake breaking glass sound.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Lord Avalon on May 29, 2014, 06:47:43 AM

It's a line he would trot out when he had the opportunity to say that he spoke German.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Geo on May 29, 2014, 06:50:42 AM

I thought of another meaning first, but its just a crayon.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 29, 2014, 10:28:01 PM

I believe I've puzzled out the literal meaning of "Bleistift".  Blaze (mark) stiff(ended), or more liberally, marker in a supporting structure, i.e., pencil lead in wood, or just pencil.  I understand that much of German is compounded in similar ways, if often less subtly.

Am I completely wrong here?

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Lord Avalon on May 30, 2014, 02:39:40 AM

Wiktionary says "lead" + "pen." (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bleistift#Etymology)

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 30, 2014, 03:10:00 AM

Ah well.  Live and learn.

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: Sava on June 07, 2014, 01:59:15 AM

most of the german i know is from wolfenstein and die hard ;santi;

Title: Re: Wer kann auf Deutsch zu kommunizieren?/Who can get by in German?
Post by: cykodennis on July 22, 2014, 08:45:07 PM

Ich natürlich.  :)