Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Command Nexus => Topic started by: t_ras on October 21, 2012, 11:26:23 PM

Title: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 21, 2012, 11:26:23 PM

Here its how it goes:
I prepare two games on small maps.
only military victory. No AIs
You play two turns each time (one on each map).
You get 5 points for last man standing, 3 if you were in the last two of a game and 1 if you dndt get eliminated first.
The winner is the player who gets the most points from the two games.

ARE YOU READY TO RUMBLE!

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 22, 2012, 02:54:35 AM

i am interested, although i do not fully understand it.  you say there are no AI present, so we need 7 players, right? both games would be setting's identical, including factions?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 22, 2012, 03:07:42 AM

It could be as little as two players.  More than four, the veterans do not recommend, as the more people, the more chance for something to mess up the game ever completing.

-Or maybe I don't understand what t's getting at, in which case, ignore the loudmouth non-MPlayer.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 22, 2012, 03:51:54 AM

ahh! so more than a faction per player, a lot of synergism there... may represent more than a challenge for me, but i could try it if you guys can tolerate a multifaction newbie.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: SgtSlick on October 22, 2012, 05:27:46 AM

Ok ill play. Might need to clarify I have the right version and stuff, pretty sure I do. Is it smacx?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 22, 2012, 05:34:53 AM

I was thinking of tow factions each in each game, but now that I think of it we better have AIs...

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: JarlWolf on October 22, 2012, 08:12:06 AM

I need a walk through on how this works as well, im unfamiliar  with this type of setup. If I manage I'll probably go as drones or university.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: sisko on October 22, 2012, 08:14:52 AM

@JarlWolf: this is a briefing on how PBEM (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=482.0) works.

if you need further info, please let us know.  :)

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 22, 2012, 12:48:24 PM

We have 3 players for now, I think we'd rather have 4.
I'll begin building the scenarios any way (it will take me about a week), if we don't have four by them, you'll be three players.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: SgtSlick on October 22, 2012, 04:56:07 PM

I think 4 players would be good. How about like a four corners type map. Like 4 islands and in the middle a monsoon jungle archipelago type thing with extra resources. Just an idea anyway. I'd prefer no AI's but up to u.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: sisko on October 22, 2012, 04:59:00 PM

Quote from: SgtSlick on October 22, 2012, 04:56:07 PM

I think 4 players would be good. How about like a four corners type map. Like 4 islands and in the middle a monsoon jungle archipelago type thing with extra resources.

you mean the vet's map (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=24)?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Rainbow Lizard on October 22, 2012, 06:00:42 PM

Wait, is it SMACX? I cannot do that. Sorry.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: sisko on October 22, 2012, 06:04:57 PM

i don't think playing SMAC (without the expanssion) will be a problem for the others.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 22, 2012, 07:00:23 PM

We'll make it SMAC.
regarding the map...well...let me surprise you...

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 23, 2012, 02:07:04 AM

Eager to start! Are we choosing our own faction/s? Or are they being given on random?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: JarlWolf on October 23, 2012, 03:55:08 AM

Right, looked at the instructions, and I can give out my email, but I'll need the other people's email. Will communication be entirely by forum/email or will we have voice chats to discuss/negotiate things?

I apologize if I am a bit blind with this, just this whole concept of playing by email is entirely new to me. I'm used to playing in real time, (or with the players present rather) for the course of the game, and then we just save the map when we have played for a little bit or so.

Though I am definitely willing to try this though.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 23, 2012, 04:01:06 AM

Everyone's email should be in the TTT (Turn Tracking Thread) once the game is set up, but you only need to know the email of the person after you in the turn order.  The person before emails his turn to you, you open the save and play your turn, then save it, send it to the next player and post that you have sent it in the TTT.  It's easier than that probably sounds.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: JarlWolf on October 23, 2012, 04:21:51 AM

Understood. I will post my email in the turn tracking thread. I'm guessing that T-ras will pick/setup the game and map, so I will await his or other's email.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: sisko on October 23, 2012, 12:11:40 PM

if you get to choose your factions, i think for the second game you should choose in reverse order. i mean the first player to chose his faction in the first game should chose last for the second and so on..

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 23, 2012, 01:43:44 PM

Quote from: sisko on October 23, 2012, 12:11:40 PM

if you get to choose your factions, i think for the second game you should choose in reverse order. i mean the first player to chose his faction in the first game should chose last for the second and so on..

Sound suggestion

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 23, 2012, 02:42:46 PM

You can choose factions.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: SgtSlick on October 24, 2012, 10:22:29 AM

< Hive

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: sisko on October 24, 2012, 10:40:30 AM

ok. we have Hive for SgtSlick in the first game. anybody else?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Earthmichael on October 24, 2012, 11:24:00 PM

I am up for a game.  I have a few quick questions before I pick a faction:

1. Do you have a copy of the two maps that you can post?
2. Are there AI players, or is it just human vs. human?  If there are AI factions, which ones?
3. Is this for SMAC or SMAX?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 25, 2012, 07:00:49 AM

1) The map will be a surprise
2) There will be AI players, the once not taken by humans
3) SMAC

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Earthmichael on October 25, 2012, 02:35:54 PM

OK, I'll take University.  On setting up the map, I suggest that the human factions be spaced apart, with the closest factions being the AI factions.

For the second game, one possibility would be to use the exact same map and factions, but each player gets the other position, so that we are both playing the exact same situation from the other viewpoint.  This would also remove the burden of having to set up a second map; the only thing different would be the passwords would be reversed.

What do you think?

Earthmichael

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 25, 2012, 02:57:15 PM

I would like to play  ;deidre;

As for earthmichael suggestions, the all sound good to me.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 25, 2012, 02:59:37 PM

I'm preparing two maps with for different types of encouters. I think I'll eliminate the AI. only four factions.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Earthmichael on October 25, 2012, 03:11:16 PM

Are you thinking of 2 human factions on each map, 1v1 style, or 4 human factions on each map?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 25, 2012, 03:24:30 PM

all for faction on both maps.
As I wrote, you will play two turns each time, one on each map.
The maps are small to get to business fast ;)
On each map you'll have a different "battle feild".

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Gusanin on October 26, 2012, 01:07:21 AM

hi all

can i join the game?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Earthmichael on October 26, 2012, 01:08:30 AM

When you say, "all factions", do you mean 7 human factions on each map?

If so, I will drop.  I have never seen a game with 7 players ever reach a conclusion.

My preferred game is 1 on 1.  This gives a good chance to actually get the game finished.  Same is true with 2 vs 2, with the one player controlling both factions on each side, taking the turns successively, so there are still only two file transfers per game turn.  With each added player, the chance of finishing a game drops exponentially.

It also makes it skill verses skill, verses the survivor type game where there are shifting alliance that wipe out the strongest current player, first with 6 on 1, then 5 on 1, then 4 on 1, etc.   The main skill there is trying to fake people out into thinking that you are not a threat, so that they will go after someone else first.  This is not a skill I am interesting in trying to cultivate.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 26, 2012, 01:42:28 AM

Quote from: Gusanin on October 26, 2012, 01:07:21 AM

hi all

can i join the game?

Hello, Gusanin; welcome to AC2!  How did you hear about us?

Both our CMNs keep European hours, so please be patient about replies to questions asked of them in the afternoon/evening.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 26, 2012, 03:37:58 AM

Quote from: BUncle on October 26, 2012, 01:42:28 AM

Quote from: Gusanin on October 26, 2012, 01:07:21 AM

hi all

can i join the game?

Hello, Gusanin; welcome to AC2!  How did you hear about us?

He is my brother! I got him enthusiastic about playing a MP... he is 16 and not too English savvy (neither i, for that matter).  Fear not i will not cheat nor allow him to misbehave... think about it and then give him an answer.

Altogether i think he will make a nice addition to the game at hand.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 26, 2012, 09:58:40 AM

Quote from: Earthmichael on October 26, 2012, 01:08:30 AM

When you say, "all factions", do you mean 7 human factions on each map?

If so, I will drop.  I have never seen a game with 7 players ever reach a conclusion.

My preferred game is 1 on 1.  This gives a good chance to actually get the game finished.  Same is true with 2 vs 2, with the one player controlling both factions on each side, taking the turns successively, so there are still only two file transfers per game turn.  With each added player, the chance of finishing a game drops exponentially.

It also makes it skill verses skill, verses the survivor type game where there are shifting alliance that wipe out the strongest current player, first with 6 on 1, then 5 on 1, then 4 on 1, etc.   The main skill there is trying to fake people out into thinking that you are not a threat, so that they will go after someone else first.  This is not a skill I am interesting in trying to cultivate.

When I said "all" I meant 4 factions (the maps are for 4)., but then you would have to play 3 games to make it fair. So you all play with  all.
I meant 2 games of 4 players . Eahc player plays one faction in each game.

Though now it seems we have at least 5 players (I still need answer from Rainbow Lizard).

I wouldnt like to add a player, since it will make the game slow and more likely to get stalled.

Please vote if you want 5 (or 6) player each game/ 1 no 1 with paralel turns/4 games each on 3 players = eahc player plays 3 paralel games?

SgtSlick
Earthmichael
lorddragonhat
JarlWolf
Gusanin

I can have it ready tomorrow if I get your votes today.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Rainbow Lizard on October 26, 2012, 01:35:57 PM

I'll be the Gaians.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 26, 2012, 02:09:42 PM

I like the last option, where we play 3 players on each game.  1 on 1 seems like ladder games to me, so we should game on that basis if we want to play so.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 26, 2012, 05:20:17 PM

Since tere are 6 players, I'll make 3 games for 4 players =each player plays 2 paralel games.
A player not returning the tuen within 7 days will be considered abandoned and will be turn to AI with no points.
If it is Ok for evey one, here is the games table

Game #	Player 1	Player 2	Player 3	Player 4
Game 1	SgtSlick	Earthmichael	lorddragonhat	JarlWolf
Game 2	lorddragonhat	JarlWolf	Gusanin	Rainbow Lizard
Game 3	SgtSlick	Earthmichael	Gusanin	Rainbow Lizard

factions:
SgtSlick - Hive
Earthmichael - Uni
lorddragonhat - Gaia
JarlWolf- Morgan
Gusanin- Sparta
Rainbow Lizard -PK

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: lorddragonhat on October 26, 2012, 05:35:56 PM

Perfect! One question tough... are we going to play all three games with same faction? No problems here with that, just want to make sure.

Fixture looks great, btw.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 26, 2012, 06:23:11 PM

it seems it will be more fair like that, but if you are all for chaning factions then it is fine.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Earthmichael on October 26, 2012, 10:51:58 PM

4 player games are good.  OK, I will stick with University.  Unless Free Drones can be used, in which case I will pick them.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: JarlWolf on October 26, 2012, 11:08:24 PM

I'll play as the University, if that is claimed, I'll take Morgan.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 27, 2012, 08:37:14 AM

Please all send me PWD+Faaction+Email through PM, so I can start the games.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: Gusanin on October 27, 2012, 12:42:54 PM

I want to play with the Spartans, it will be a good game

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 28, 2012, 09:41:58 PM

Still missing JarlWolf PWD.
JarlWolf?

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: JarlWolf on October 29, 2012, 09:54:55 AM

Sent my email and faction notice. I am not aware what a PWD is.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: sisko on October 29, 2012, 10:42:22 AM

@JarlWolf: the password you will use for the games

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: JarlWolf on October 30, 2012, 04:00:25 AM

Thank you, I will send mine to T ras.

Title: Re: Offer for new game - the last man standing!
Post by: t_ras on October 31, 2012, 11:05:06 AM

game started here:
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2523.new#new (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=2523.new#new)
ENJOY!