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Title: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 16, 2018, 09:14:32 PM

I got myself into a Blood Bowl league....

The Inner Circle Blood Bowl League to be exact.

I would like to share my struggles with you guys, if ya'll don't mind. :D

WEEK 1 ICCBL pre-game talk is up!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWLT1ihnt4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKWLT1ihnt4)

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 16, 2018, 09:20:56 PM

The management of AC2 herewith wishes to express (enthusiastic) formal approval...

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 16, 2018, 09:23:52 PM

Quote from: BUncle on March 16, 2018, 09:20:56 PM

The management of AC2 herewith wishes to express (enthusiastic) formal approval...

Thanks :D

Game 1 is over and will be up shortly. Got beaten by Dwarves in a close game.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 16, 2018, 09:26:49 PM

The management of AC2 herewith wishes to ask what the heck Blood Bowl is...

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 16, 2018, 09:30:42 PM

Quote from: BUncle on March 16, 2018, 09:26:49 PM

The management of AC2 herewith wishes to ask what the heck Blood Bowl is...

A turn based, tactical combat football game with orcs, elves, dwarves, undead. (I know, I know... sounds crazy)

It is based on the Warhammer universe. You try to score a touchdown ( or ignore the ball and kill or maim the opposing team).

I will be playing undead. First game is versus dwarves.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 20, 2018, 10:31:13 PM

My team lost to the Dwarves of  Magnus the Mad 1 to 2.

This week, I will be taking on the Halflings of Poncho Div. Poncho Div is a fairly well known coach in the Blood Bowl world with fairly well watched Twitch and Youtube channels. He has also been in various Blood Bowl cups. If not a top world player, he is definitely in the running. Last week, he embarrassed a Dark Elf team 1-0.

This is a MAJOR game for our undead, The Rott Rotersons. Even if we lose again and start making combacks, my money is on this guy winning the division. This guy will probably be in the playoffs, barring Nuffle's will.

Pre-game will be up in a few days along with highlights. I will also have Poncho_Div's Twitch and my Youtube so you can see the game, if interested once we negotiate the play times.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 20, 2018, 10:35:42 PM

ICBBL Steel Division B Round robins: Week 1 Green1 (undead) versus Magnus the Mad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FToDseq8Tc&t=1045s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FToDseq8Tc&t=1045s)

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 20, 2018, 10:45:27 PM

Not that I'm NOT pulling for you, but you are SO deeeaaad, my friend.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 20, 2018, 11:20:48 PM

Quote from: BUncle on March 20, 2018, 10:45:27 PM

Not that I'm NOT pulling for you, but you are SO deeeaaad, my friend.

I might can still win.

The halflings are a fairly week team. I think Poncho is just having fun with this, not really wanting to go anywhere with it. After all, he does have teams in Worlds and in Gold.

The halflings themselves are very squishy and die pretty easy, though they have a skill that they can dodge and are hard to catch. The halflings also have two Treemen on the line. the trees are tough as nails, but my Mummies are tough, too, and at least do not decide to take up root in the middle of the pitch and be worthless the whole half of the game.

If I can play a very bashy, aggressive game and get lots of injuries and kills, I can win if I am careful and have good dice rolls.

One thing about the 'flings, though - the Treemen can throw halflings (with ball) into the endzone. Of course, sometimes this splats the halfling. But a threat nonetheless. Also, halfings have a master chef in some situations that can take away my precious rerolls.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2018, 12:38:24 AM

No rock-throwing?  Tolkien directly said in the introduction that animals living in the Shire learned fast to disappear when a hobbit bent over.


(The Tolkien estate's lawyers are obviously not real competent, with the unauthorized editions out for years in this country before our time - and after the US got on their radar, letting any gaming companies take the term "Halfling" out of trademark.)


There was a missed opportunity in the movie of LOTOR; for fights, they had tanks in Aragorn Boromir and Gimli, Gandalf also armed for melee w/ magic sword and knew how to use it - or able to stand back and cast spells, Legolas also able to switch-hit w/ bow or sword, and four Hobbits in back who were really good at throwing rocks.   

Don't laugh at that excrement. Yo, if you're a big tough orc up against Gimli's ax, and a midget in back throws a dirt-clod in your face, are you going to win or the dwarf?  -Huge advantage for the numbers problem they frequently faced, and comedy relief possibilities missed, to boot.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 21, 2018, 12:51:34 AM

Well, they can use "halfling", but not hobbit. Gygax and crew, back when they were doing the rough drafts for 1st edition DnD had to remove the word "Hobbit" to avoid the ire of copyright lawyers.

Blood Bowl halflings are from the Warhammer universe, not Middle Earth. They are not know as rock throwers, but that does not keep the fans up in the stands from throwing rocks or the opponent from hiring a wizard to fireball my Wights and Ghouls if he has enough petty cash and inducements.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 21, 2018, 12:54:24 AM

Still.

"Halfling" was a defendable Tolkien trademark until Gygax got way with it for too many years; not like the absolute right of copyright - you have to aggressively defend trademarks, and I'm sure it's not that the estate didn't care when they found out.  Media Law: I know a little.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 21, 2018, 01:09:41 AM

Quote from: BUncle on March 21, 2018, 12:54:24 AM

Still.

"Halfling" was a defendable Tolkien trademark until Gygax got way with it for too many years; not like the absolute right of copyright - you have to aggressively defend trademarks, and I'm sure it's not that the estate didn't care when they found out.  Media Law: I know a little.

Well, if they would have, we would have at least not had Kender....

I know, I know... Tasselhoff.  Yeah, he was a thing in the now obscure DragonLance novels a lot of nerds were into back in the day. New kids never heard of him nor kenders.

But, it would have saved some people from horrible 2E DragonLance campaigns that devolved into opposing dice rolls and swapping inventory sheets rather than take on the forces of Takhisis (Tiamat).

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 21, 2018, 02:46:26 AM

Okay...

How the playoffs will work 6 weeks from now has been announced.

Steel league has 4 divisions with 8 teams each and only the top 4 teams from each will make it to the elimination rounds. 16 teams total. Then there will be knockout rounds ie: Div A first place vs Div B first place, Div  A 2nd vs 2nd, and so on.

From there, the playoffs begin with 8 teams.

As long as I win some games, I think I have a shot at the elimination rounds.

Key being. "win"!

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 24, 2018, 10:56:08 PM

Quote from: BUncle on March 21, 2018, 12:38:24 AM

There was a missed opportunity in the movie of LOTOR; for fights, they had tanks in Aragorn Boromir and Gimli, Gandalf also armed for melee w/ magic sword and knew how to use it - or able to stand back and cast spells, Legolas also able to switch-hit w/ bow or sword, and four Hobbits in back who were really good at throwing rocks.   

That would only have worked in some kind of Spartanesque "numbers count for nothing" terrain.  For most of the fights, the heroes were vastly outnumbered and had to use fluid skirmish tactics, or just plain run to survive.  If they had lined up neatly in a bunch like you say, most of the time they would have been surrounded and summarily slaughtered.  In fact that almost did happen in Moria, but then the Balrog showed up.  I've been rewatching my LotR DVDs.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 24, 2018, 11:02:42 PM

Yo, a hobbit w/ an open bag of throwing rocks over one shoulder ain't nothin' to chase far.  BANG!  Right in the face!

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 24, 2018, 11:10:55 PM

Quote from: BUncle on March 24, 2018, 11:02:42 PM

Yo, a hobbit w/ an open bag of throwing rocks over one shoulder ain't nothin' to chase far.  BANG!  Right in the face!

To the extent that they did actually show that in Fellowship, Peter Jackson thought it was complete BS.  "No way they'd take those big guys down" is an approximate quote.  I'm not sure why as the Director he had them do it anyways, I'd have to rewatch that particular commentary again.  It's the scene where Merry and Pippin start throwing rocks at Uruk-Hai that are running them and Boromir down.

If they threw something more specialized and violent, like the D&D "throwing dart" of legend, it might work.  c.f. give "lawn darts" to Hobbit children.  I'm old enough to have thrown an actual lawn dart, as a kid who could have killed himself / somebody else.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 24, 2018, 11:21:33 PM

Well, obviously a rock is a poor substitute for proficiency with a real weapon, but l'il Hobbits, so running sucks, fighting sucks, hiding best, if possible.  -Thus, the suggestion for supporting from behind tanks you poo-pooed.  Lots of the Moria fighting is actually what I specifically had in mind -as long as they could stay in throwing rocks, anyway- floors, a lot of doorway bottlenecks helping v. numbers and effective opportunities to make a rush a lot harder to get through alive for OrcX, 'cause he can't see so good while Boromir runs him through.

Rock in the face = distraction at best for OrcX.

I'm not sure I ever saw the whole movie - meh.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 12:29:59 AM

Moria had multiple tunnels with different directions the enemy could conceivably come.  I think in the 1978 cartoon, Gandalf says to leave the eastern door ajar as they mustn't get shut in.  I don't know if that follows the book or is gratuitious invention.  Regardless, they could not afford to fight static battles in Moria, anywhere.  The risk of being surrounded by enemies coming from another direction was far too great.

Your formation also does nothing against the line wrecking Cave Troll of Fellowship.  They did also have a troll in the 1978 cartoon, but he wasn't some big centerpiece.  Frodo gets the spear in the chest from an Orc chieftan, not a troll.

Pippin actually just fights "regularly" in Gondor, with a sword.  Merry rides with Eowyn on a horse.  Frodo and Sam go to Mordor.  After the fellowship breaks, there aren't any opportunities for "hobbit missile" tactics.  Well except in the books when they come back to the Shire and have to fight Sharky.  I think they used bows then.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2018, 12:56:46 AM

Don't. know. if. that. follows. the. book.

:(

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 02:50:52 AM

It seems to (http://www.henneth-annun.net/events_view.cfm?evid=349):

Quote

    An event in the Battles of the Fellowship at Moria; see that entry for an overview:

    'Trapped!' cried Gandalf....

    'Slam the doors and wedge them!' shouted Aragorn....

    'No!' said Gandalf. 'We must not get shut in. Keep the east door ajar! We will go that way, if we get a chance.'....

    'There is no sound outside here yet,' said Aragorn, who was standing by the eastern door listening.... 'We cannot block the door. Its key is gone and the lock is broken, and it opens inwards. We must do something to delay the enemy first. We will make them fear the Chamber of Mazarbul!'....

    The Fellowship of the Ring, LoTR Book 2, Ch 5, The Bridge of Khazad-dûm

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2018, 02:52:54 AM

You. had. to. google. it. :(

That's late in Moria.  Most of the way was random dungeon encounters, rarely numbers to worry about being encircled unless they got pinned down too long.  They had them a Dwarf along, and his people built the place and he'd actually seen maps.



Full marks on the profound wrongness of that avatar, GIMP whiz. ;b;

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 04:14:04 AM

I don't remember any other fights in Moria before they're in that room.  The whole point was that they were trying to move by stealth, then Pippin pulls the bonehead maneuver of throwing a stone down a well.  Which they dialed to Eleven in Fellowship, having him drop an entire skeleton and rusty bucket instead.

I went to CivFanatics and Apolyton today and posted my AAR.  My accounts needed avatars, and I thought Aki would be better for that.   I figured, since she actually is the best human faction IMO, and I wrote this epic AAR using her, I should perhaps not sport the Hive colors so much.  But then I thought, people might think I'm a woman, and I didn't want to give up my tagline, "Chairman Yang is watching you".  So I took a page out of the Dadaist / Surrealist pagebook and pasted up her eyes.  I think they figured out quite awhile ago that it's creepy.  Granted it is also Cubist.  Small possibility that now people will think I'm transgendered, but at least they will think, instead of passively receiving an image.  Good "WTF?" for advertizing an AAR.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2018, 04:37:35 AM

Sure.  And you meant the creepy wrong and that makes it arty.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 05:22:06 AM

I wonder if I'm going to be able to stand looking at this avatar over the long haul.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 25, 2018, 08:03:41 AM

Poncho dlv and I will be playing Monday late morning CST. It will be up about 1 hour to 2 hours later depending on how fast or slow Youtube is that day.


Pre game talk, though, should be up by Sunday late night or early Monday morning CST depending on how late my Sunday DnD session goes.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Geo on March 25, 2018, 11:21:32 AM

Quote from: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 05:22:06 AM

I wonder if I'm going to be able to stand looking at this avatar over the long haul.

What's with the eyepart anyway?

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 12:59:53 PM

Them's Chairman Yang's eyeballs!

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Geo on March 25, 2018, 04:20:19 PM

Of course! ;lol ;b;

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 25, 2018, 04:43:58 PM

I ain't no topic Nazi and don't allow anyone else to get TOO carried away with that here -but we're drowning Green's topic now...

Quote from: bvanevery on March 25, 2018, 04:14:04 AM

I went to CivFanatics and Apolyton today and posted my AAR.  My accounts needed avatars, and I thought Aki would be better for that.   I figured, since she actually is the best human faction IMO, and I wrote this epic AAR using her, I should perhaps not sport the Hive colors so much.  But then I thought, people might think I'm a woman, and I didn't want to give up my tagline, "Chairman Yang is watching you".  So I took a page out of the Dadaist / Surrealist pagebook and pasted up her eyes.  I think they figured out quite awhile ago that it's creepy.  Granted it is also Cubist.  Small possibility that now people will think I'm transgendered, but at least they will think, instead of passively receiving an image.  Good "WTF?" for advertizing an AAR.

;b; for intiative -I'd seen you'd done that- and Geo? he had already said all that about the avi, and I would have pointed it out sooner except we're too much OT already.

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 26, 2018, 05:30:56 PM

Week 2 pregame talk up.

Poncho dlv (Halflings) vs Green1 (Undead)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgWn_ceAtzw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgWn_ceAtzw&feature=youtu.be)

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 26, 2018, 10:20:01 PM

Week 2 game complete.

This.....  game......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r64f8lD-dFc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r64f8lD-dFc)

I am going to start drinking again.....

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Buster's Uncle on March 26, 2018, 11:32:00 PM

:danc:

Title: Re: Green1's adventures in competitive Blood Bowl.
Post by: Green1 on March 28, 2018, 01:08:56 AM

you know, I was expecting shire halflings that are squishy and die and treemen that stay rooted most of the time while I add to my undead roster. Instead, I get homocidal murder hobos, trees of HURT, and a hired star player crazed jungle chick with a knife the ref does not seem to want to catch!

Next week, I play a goblin team. Hopefully I can turn this around.