Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Command Nexus => Topic started by: t_ras on March 10, 2012, 09:44:19 PM

Title: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 10, 2012, 09:44:19 PM
As you land in this new plannet, in an unexpected way, you figure out the little you know about it...and about what ever is waiting for you there. Luckily you have a basic map of the planet the main computer managed to make before the break apart and the frequncies to what you hope, are the other factions comm links.  Not sure if you really want to call them though...
Well...nothing you can do now, no way back and your poeple are looking up to you and waiting for orders, if you hasitate, you loose them.
"Open the pods" you hear your self saying, "we're going out!"

:attn: The goal (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=1455.msg4035#msg4035) is pair victory of two humans which can not be military.
The map is visible, but fog of war is activated, so it is more realistic.
All factions have all the comlinks and may use it from the begining.

Factions
roninscg   UNI
Bari -> Armageddon   PK
Earthmichael   GAIA
demiurg   t_ras
AI: Hive,Spartans,Usurpers
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 10, 2012, 09:56:15 PM
roninscgUNI
BariPK
EarthmichaelGAIA
demiurgDrones

@demiurg - please send me a copy of each turn. thanks.

Enjoy
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 10, 2012, 11:16:16 PM
2101 to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 11, 2012, 01:20:48 AM
Quote from: t_ras on March 03, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
The goal is pair victory of two humans which can not be military.The map is visible, but fog of war is activated, so it is more realistic.
All have all the comlinks and may use it, as I believe it is more realistic also.

I have a question of the pairing up.

Is there some point in the pairing where the tearms are irrevocably linked?  Otherwise, you have to be very wary about contributing to the success of your partner, if they can change alliances after you have contributed to their growth.

I would strongly prefer it if between the 4 of us, at some point we declare permamemt teams.

t_ras, since you wrote the scenario based on pair victory, what did you have in mind here?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 11, 2012, 06:37:05 AM
I was thinking you can change sides whenever you want.
Notice it can not be more then two players also, which means if you leave your partner at the last moment to win with someone else, you would have to convince that someone to leave his partner first.
On one hand this means you can play with a partner all the game and then in one last turn be left for victory with another one. That means you can not accept a situation where you are the "small" partner, all 4 humans will have to be sure they are at the same level if they dont want to be be left for some one else. But again, this last scenario will probably be possible if you have two strong factions and two weak ones, else there is no reason for the partners change.
This type of game will emphasise diplomatic game.
On the other hand you can choose to enforce the pairs after a fixed number of turns (60-80?) and then the game will emphasise collaboration and good planning.

I was thinking of the first type, but is you who should enjoy it, so it is your call.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 11, 2012, 06:39:54 AM
 roninscg did you also mailed the turn?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 11, 2012, 06:44:37 AM
@t_ras
Yes, i meiled turn to next player,
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 11, 2012, 01:54:57 PM
2101 to monty


good luck gets an have fun
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 11, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
no one has comments on Earthmichael's remarks?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 11, 2012, 03:14:29 PM
well, i got your idea from the first time, and it allows players to be cunning. we will have to be carefull who we will make an alliance with. i loved it then, love it now  8)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 11, 2012, 06:56:35 PM
If we are going to have a team win, I like the idea of have the possibility of a permanent (unbreakable) pact.  No one is ever forced to enter into such a pact.  But if someone agrees to a perma-pact, then they cannot break the pact for the rest of the game, enforced by the CMN.

I have been playing diplomatic games for over 30 years, dating back to the original board game version of Diplomacy, the board game version of Civilization, etc.  What I have found that in the long run, the best way (to me) to play is to never break your word.  So if I agree to a 20 turn pact, I won't backstab on turn 18 even if I could get a great advantage from it.  If i agree to a unbreakable pact, I won't break it even if it causes me to lose the game.  In the long run, my reputation for always keeping my pacts results in games which I find to be much more enjoyable.

Of course we will have regular (breakable) pacts as well, that is fine. 

t_ras, will you enforce an unbreakable pact if two players agree to have one at some point during the game?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 11, 2012, 07:07:50 PM
turn sent to university, t_ras here is the turn too
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 11, 2012, 07:36:19 PM
I have no problem enforcing this, though I would suggest you not to make does pacts too early, you might not know what you'll be loosing.

I just remember I was also a "Diplomacy" player. I used to make pacts with every one till I could win and in the last turnI would break all pacts and win. I did it again and again, and people stil made pacts. this is because you never noe if and when you will be cheated, and if you are offered and fair pact which does not give too much to the other side, you will accept. what you dont know is that the other side has the same pacts with every one, and a little bit from every one is a lot...I loved that game....I almost never lost.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 11, 2012, 09:12:13 PM
I sent the turn to demiurg for the Free Drones about 6 hours ago.  I am posting in case there is trouble with the email.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 11, 2012, 11:54:09 PM
2102 to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 12, 2012, 09:50:26 AM
to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 12, 2012, 01:51:24 PM
to demiurg
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 12, 2012, 04:19:38 PM
turn to   ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 12, 2012, 07:36:48 PM
2103 to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 13, 2012, 10:54:16 AM
2103 to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 13, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
Quote from: Bari on March 13, 2012, 10:54:16 AM
2103 to monty
You accidentally sent me the Lal save.  I am playing Gaia.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 13, 2012, 03:19:02 PM
ups! resend
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 13, 2012, 03:50:39 PM
2103 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 13, 2012, 06:54:14 PM
to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 13, 2012, 07:19:43 PM
2104 to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on March 14, 2012, 05:18:32 PM
i got a message from Bari. he says he won't have internet access for the next few days.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 19, 2012, 12:19:42 PM
Any update?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 19, 2012, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: sisko on March 19, 2012, 12:23:44 PM
it seems like Bari will have internet access on Tuesday or Wednesday.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 20, 2012, 03:18:47 PM
dont want to give u a fals hope. wait a few more days or repace me.  my life is a hazard right now
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on March 20, 2012, 03:28:47 PM
@t_ras: do you have Bari's password?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 20, 2012, 03:38:00 PM
well this was stupid. at the advice of Sisko i was on my way to play my turn. thing is it was the wrong save. darn.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 21, 2012, 06:42:08 AM
You need a resend?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on March 21, 2012, 06:48:54 AM
yep. that's what he means.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on March 21, 2012, 09:02:45 AM
PMd ronin
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 21, 2012, 11:24:36 AM
2104 to  ;lal; re-sent

sorry my mistake :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 27, 2012, 11:06:52 AM
back on track !


thanks for your pacience guys.


2104 to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 27, 2012, 11:08:51 AM
 :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 28, 2012, 01:41:44 PM
2105 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 28, 2012, 10:43:08 PM
2105 to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 29, 2012, 07:28:45 PM
2106 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 29, 2012, 08:48:26 PM
2106 to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 31, 2012, 02:34:16 PM
Bari,

Your resend of the save is STILL the save starting the Peacekeeper turn, asking for Brother Lal to enter his password.  I need the save from after the Peacekeepers have finished, that asks for the Gaians to enter their password.

Please open the save yourself to make sure that it is asking for the Gaia password before you send.  Thanks!

Earthmichael
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 31, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
well, i dont get it. turn was done and it still was asking for my password  ???


anyhow, i opened it twice to see if its allright. did not change anything cose i was done anyway!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on March 31, 2012, 07:47:45 PM
Quote from: Bari on March 31, 2012, 06:45:55 PM
well, i dont get it. turn was done and it still was asking for my password  ???


anyhow, i opened it twice to see if its allright. did not change anything cose i was done anyway!
i guess you forgot to hit 'end turn'
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on March 31, 2012, 08:18:53 PM
it may be. cant remenber
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 01, 2012, 01:46:59 AM
Anyway, latest save worked fine.

Unfortunately, I popped a pod and got a mind worm.  Hope I get lucky.

Earthmichael
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 01, 2012, 07:25:54 AM
2107 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 01, 2012, 04:47:57 PM
2107 to ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 01, 2012, 09:10:04 PM
Quote from: Earthmichael on April 01, 2012, 01:46:59 AM
Anyway, latest save worked fine.

Unfortunately, I popped a pod and got a mind worm.  Hope I get lucky.

Earthmichael

harsh... pods killed me in one of the mp games i was in
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 03, 2012, 11:47:55 AM
2108 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 04, 2012, 01:57:08 AM
2108 to Domai
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 04, 2012, 11:01:02 PM
2109 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 05, 2012, 06:18:51 PM
2109 to  ;deidre; monty few hours ago
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 05, 2012, 10:58:50 PM
2109 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 06, 2012, 07:14:48 PM
sent to  ;zak;

tras, it keeps bouncing the email back, is your email address changed or blocked?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 07, 2012, 12:10:10 AM
2110 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on April 07, 2012, 06:06:20 PM
Sorry, the mailbox was full, it is an old small one I use almost only for this (only 10 mb)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 09, 2012, 02:25:14 AM
2110 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 09, 2012, 09:20:29 PM
2111 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 10, 2012, 07:59:37 PM
2111 to  ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 11, 2012, 01:13:17 AM
2111 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 12, 2012, 09:27:01 PM
to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 15, 2012, 06:20:23 AM
2112 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 15, 2012, 09:32:21 AM
i did not get the email. pls resend
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 15, 2012, 09:36:34 AM
found it in my spam folder. ouch!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 15, 2012, 09:55:53 AM
2112 to  ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 15, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
2112 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 17, 2012, 06:13:42 AM
2113 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 17, 2012, 12:39:17 PM
2113 to  ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 19, 2012, 06:04:53 AM
2113 to  ;domai;

This was sent on April 17 at 1:37 PM (USA Central Time), so if you have not gotten it yet, let me know and I will resend.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 19, 2012, 01:11:33 PM
sent to  ;zak; on april 18th
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 19, 2012, 09:30:45 PM
2114 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 22, 2012, 01:07:41 PM
2114 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 22, 2012, 08:59:08 PM
2115 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 23, 2012, 04:43:02 PM
2115 to  ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 23, 2012, 06:43:04 PM
2115 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 26, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 26, 2012, 08:12:27 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on April 28, 2012, 06:58:42 AM
2116 to  ;deidre; monty


least the game keeps on going :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 28, 2012, 01:07:04 PM
2116 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 29, 2012, 04:26:19 PM
to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on May 02, 2012, 11:08:58 AM
2117 to  ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 02, 2012, 02:17:11 PM
You accidentally sent me the Lal save.  Please send the Gaia save.  Thanks!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 03, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Sent to  ;domai; yesterday
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on May 04, 2012, 04:54:59 PM
sent to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on May 04, 2012, 09:41:08 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on May 08, 2012, 03:19:26 PM
2118 to  ;deidre; monty 2 days back  i think
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 11, 2012, 04:47:11 AM
2118 to  ;domai;  on 5/5/12  at 8:19 PM US Central Time.

Sorry I forgot to post.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on May 11, 2012, 10:23:38 AM
to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on May 11, 2012, 10:32:33 AM
to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on May 17, 2012, 07:28:22 PM
i had a bew install on my pc and i deleted the smax as well by mistake. now i cant find the email. looks i made some bad moves......

can i get a resent?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on May 17, 2012, 07:47:02 PM
Resend to Lai -Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on May 17, 2012, 08:03:54 PM
ty and on to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 17, 2012, 11:01:35 PM
2119 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 26, 2012, 12:29:40 AM
Seems like the game is stalled?

I am going to be out of pocket starting early Sunday morning until Friday night.

If I get a turn on Saturday, I will play it and pass it on, but otherwise I won't be able to see it until Friday.  So maybe if whoever has the turn will cycle it through, I can get it to pass on before Sunday.

Earthmichael
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on May 26, 2012, 07:01:51 AM
2120 sent to Bari on  May 20, 2012, 3:02 PM
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on June 02, 2012, 01:07:42 AM
i dont have the email. pls resent and post it when u do ;)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on June 02, 2012, 06:03:40 AM
re send to Bari  ;lal; 2120
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on June 02, 2012, 09:30:42 AM
2120 to  ;deidre; monty

i'm bit scared about what marr is seting up there  :-\
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 02, 2012, 01:55:13 PM
2120 to  ;domai;  demiurg

This is going to be a strange scenario.  Marr starts out ungodly powerful, secret projects and all.  Yang has the perfect secret project to compensate for his primary weakness, lack of energy and therefore technology.  He does not even have to bother with research, just wait until the other factions get it, and he gets it.  Marr and Yang are both going to be very hard to survive against, much less beat.  And the Spartans are not far behind in power.  So I am not sure how this scenario is going to work out.  It may be much more of us try to work together to defeat the AI players than playing directly against each other.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on June 02, 2012, 11:08:36 PM
well, have u ever had a teamwork agains AI's?  hehe
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on June 07, 2012, 11:03:21 PM
2121 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 11, 2012, 04:44:37 PM
2121 to   ;domai;  demiurg
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 20, 2012, 02:13:00 PM
demiurg, did you get my email?

We seem to be stuck again.  If somone is going to be unable to play for some time, please have the courtesy to post, so everyone knows what is going on.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on June 20, 2012, 08:54:19 PM
i'm willing and able :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on June 21, 2012, 12:38:45 PM
sent apologies for delay due to house move
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 21, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
The University turn was accidentally sent to me  ;deidre;, but I forwarded it on to roninscg  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on June 22, 2012, 04:59:13 PM
2122 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on June 24, 2012, 02:55:32 PM
2122 to monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 25, 2012, 05:58:17 AM
2122 to  ;domai; demmiurg
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 20, 2012, 03:28:57 AM
Quote from: Earthmichael on June 25, 2012, 05:58:17 AM
2122 to  ;domai; demmiurg

Anyone have any idea what is going on with the game?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on July 24, 2012, 09:40:17 AM
not got anything in some time  can anybody help?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on July 24, 2012, 09:50:30 AM
@demiurg: have you checked your email / spam folder etc. According to the TTT you should have the turn.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on July 24, 2012, 09:54:18 AM
Maybe (at least for this time) posting the turn will solve the problem.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on July 24, 2012, 12:57:47 PM
so is demiurg back?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 24, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
I resent the last turn to demiurg again about 2 hours ago.

demiurg, let me know if you get it this time.  Since it should have already arrived, email or post right away if you do not have it.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on July 27, 2012, 09:54:19 AM
i sent that turn on some time ago, but i re sent it today
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on July 27, 2012, 10:09:00 AM
2123 to  ;lal; bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on July 27, 2012, 12:50:52 PM
2123 to  ;deidre; monty
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 27, 2012, 02:39:32 PM
2123 to demiurg  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 04, 2012, 06:38:35 AM
how is it going?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 05, 2012, 04:54:12 AM
The game is going VERY slowly.

demiurg, did you get the last turn I sent?  If so, did you already play and send it?  I just resent the turn just in case, since it has been a week.

If you do not get a turn, you need to post or email to let me know as soon as you see my post.

Cheers!

Earthmichael
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on August 10, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
looks like it died again. i'm really asking for a replacer this time


off topic

happy b-day mate :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on August 10, 2012, 07:05:33 PM
sorry i got the turn i sent it on , i can play daily now, sorry

turn on
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on August 14, 2012, 04:37:02 PM
please post the turns here
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 14, 2012, 10:12:50 PM
2124 to  ;lal; Bari

I'm sorry for delay
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 20, 2012, 10:01:31 PM
2124 to  ;domai; demiurg
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on August 21, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
turn to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on August 21, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
2124 to monty last night


somehow i lost interest in this game. i keep fogeting what i want to do
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 21, 2012, 06:04:02 PM
Quote from: Bari on August 21, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
somehow i lost interest in this game. i keep fogeting what i want to do

This is a common problem when the game is progressing too slowly.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on August 21, 2012, 10:57:57 PM
sorry, the turn has been turned and i wil try to play faster
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 23, 2012, 05:19:37 AM
2125 to  ;lal; Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on August 23, 2012, 02:49:38 PM
on to  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on August 25, 2012, 09:35:48 AM
where's the turn? still on Earthmichael?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 12, 2012, 10:02:47 PM
Bari, please post the turn here and PM Earthmichael
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Bari on September 13, 2012, 07:23:26 PM
this is it
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 14, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
I did not get the turn.   Nor did I get notification of the posts, or I would have responded sooner.  I DID get notification of the PM.

If  you are getting a bounceback, let me know.  My email seems to be working fine.  I typically get 50 messages/day.

I just uploaded the turn. 
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 14, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
2025 to  ;domai;

I have emailed the turn, also posted it here.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on September 15, 2012, 09:16:24 AM
to  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on October 05, 2012, 03:15:15 PM
Quote from: Earthmichael on September 14, 2012, 02:12:30 PM
Nor did I get notification of the posts, or I would have responded sooner.  I DID get notification of the PM.

you don't get notification to every post on the thread. see the message in every notification email:
Quote
................
More replies may be posted, but you won't receive any more notifications until you read the topic.

if you want a notification for every post you should go here:
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=profile;area=notification;u=3703 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=profile;area=notification;u=3703)
and change the fist option:
For topics and boards I've requested notification on, notify me: Instantly
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on October 05, 2012, 03:17:38 PM
And you can subscribe to individual threads by checking the Attachments and other options>Notify me of replies. deal under the Reply box.

That's a good idea for TTTs of games you're in -unless you're here all the time- isn't it?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on October 06, 2012, 05:05:51 PM
Thanks for the info!   I set up my profile to now get notified of every post, not just the first.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on October 06, 2012, 10:39:13 PM
2126 to  ;lal;

Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on October 12, 2012, 11:41:21 AM
@Bari: are you still with us?

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=346)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 12, 2012, 12:25:22 PM
Mailed and PMd Bari
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on October 19, 2012, 08:11:30 AM
Quote
...Last Active: September 15, 2012, 10:22:51 PM
that's more than a month. given the nature of the scenario the only option is a replacement.

@t_ras: can you post a powergraph image?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 21, 2012, 11:31:27 PM
Lets wellcome in    Armageddon!
You got a good player here -enjoy!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on October 21, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Thx for picking me up. Have fun!
And on with the game...
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on October 22, 2012, 02:01:35 AM
To  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on October 26, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on October 27, 2012, 06:25:11 PM
2127 to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on October 27, 2012, 08:16:37 PM
2127 )=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on October 27, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
2127 =>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 27, 2012, 10:53:14 PM
Hi to all after some messaging with EM, it came to my attention that I forgot to tell you somethingI though would be pretty ovius. No one is on the main iseland!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on October 28, 2012, 04:17:45 AM
Silly me, I thought Hive might be hanging out there!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on October 31, 2012, 07:48:44 AM
the clock is ticking on demiurg

(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=346)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 01, 2012, 10:24:27 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 01, 2012, 05:49:45 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 01, 2012, 06:20:56 PM
to  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 01, 2012, 08:55:35 PM
=>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 03, 2012, 09:33:40 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 03, 2012, 10:19:06 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 03, 2012, 11:01:22 AM
I loaded the SAV and the game told me I already played, what is strange. Then, the diplomatic results of last round weren't in effect too. Strange!
Anyhow, just played the turn once and on...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on November 03, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
ronin, could you replay and resend?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 03, 2012, 09:23:37 PM
 ;lal; sorry :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 03, 2012, 09:46:25 PM
No prob, screwed it up by myself the first time. I have to admit it's hard to take over a faction that is already at WAR! You know, I am the peace-loving Lal... :-\
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on November 03, 2012, 09:57:26 PM
like the title says, it's a world full of suprises.. :D
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 04, 2012, 01:52:25 AM
2129 =>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 04, 2012, 10:27:58 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 04, 2012, 12:40:34 PM
 to ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 04, 2012, 04:48:42 PM
to  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 05, 2012, 11:43:48 PM
2130 => ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on November 08, 2012, 08:21:52 AM
Demuring?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 08, 2012, 10:29:42 AM
 ;zak; turned
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 12, 2012, 08:14:46 AM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 12, 2012, 08:03:05 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 12, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
2131 =>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 15, 2012, 10:29:52 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 15, 2012, 03:30:41 PM
to ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 15, 2012, 08:21:18 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 16, 2012, 12:17:49 AM
3132 =>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 18, 2012, 11:00:12 AM
 ;domai;~~~~~~> ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 18, 2012, 03:43:07 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 18, 2012, 05:42:12 PM
=>  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 18, 2012, 10:28:41 PM
2133 =>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 19, 2012, 09:18:12 PM
I will be unavailable to play from November 22-26.  I will be camping and have no internet access.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 19, 2012, 09:23:35 PM
Enjoy it!
Thx for telling us in advance!  ;b;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on November 23, 2012, 10:53:55 AM
(http://alphacentauri2.info/MGalleryItem.php?id=346)

the clock is ticking on demiurg
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on November 25, 2012, 08:45:42 PM
The setting says wait 6 days ( too much now that I think of it), So in 6 days Ill push the urn. Second time I'll either turn to AI or eliminate.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on November 26, 2012, 08:32:56 AM
Quote from: t_ras on March 03, 2012, 12:50:46 PM
The goal is pair victory of two humans which can not be military.The map is visible, but fog of war is activated, so it is more realistic.
because of the specific scenario requirements, turning the faction to the AI is not an option here.

i see demiurg was here yesterday. i will PM him.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on November 26, 2012, 09:03:46 AM
He wrote me he will turn today.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: sisko on November 26, 2012, 09:05:50 AM
Quote from: t_ras on November 26, 2012, 09:03:46 AM
He wrote me he will turn today.
that's good news. :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 26, 2012, 08:50:59 PM
I'm back.  Looks like I did not hold up the game.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 27, 2012, 10:37:22 AM
ill upload it today im really sorry for delays

turn uploaded
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 28, 2012, 06:45:41 AM
to   ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 28, 2012, 11:04:45 PM
to  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on November 29, 2012, 03:31:20 AM
To  ;domai;

Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on November 29, 2012, 04:19:11 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 30, 2012, 09:22:23 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 30, 2012, 10:26:21 PM
to  ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 01, 2012, 09:48:03 PM
2135 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on December 07, 2012, 09:34:02 PM
Clock ticking on demuring. Please mail him the turn just in case...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 08, 2012, 01:37:22 PM
I don't have demiurg's email address.  Perhpas someone who does can forward the turn to him in that manner.

I will be leaving on a cruise Sunday morning, and will be gone until the next Sunday.  I will have no internet access for that week (poor me  ;) ).

I will be sure to play any turn that arrives by Sunday morning before I go.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on December 08, 2012, 11:03:04 PM
turn on
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 11, 2012, 09:48:51 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on December 12, 2012, 08:44:41 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 16, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
=>  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on December 19, 2012, 12:32:42 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 19, 2012, 10:24:43 PM
To  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on December 19, 2012, 11:24:31 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 20, 2012, 01:55:00 AM
To  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on December 23, 2012, 01:01:46 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 24, 2012, 02:24:45 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on December 24, 2012, 03:44:04 PM
tried too often the wrong password, so had to reload...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 24, 2012, 04:32:37 PM
I think there is a bit of a problem with the scenario design.  I beat back Sparta successfully (with PK), but now Usurpers are killing me.  They destroyed 3 more units last turn, including the last of my mind worms.  I know the power graph shows me leading, so poor pitiful me, but this is because of the infrastructure investment I have made.  I never expected to have to repel this level of firepower at this early point in the game.  I have infiltrated Usurpers, so I am able to see their units, which I have attached.

To hit the high points, they have 2 Ogres and 15 rovers!  How exactly am I supposed to fight that, after already having exhausted most of my initial forces on Sparta?!?

I know I am a very good player, but I don't think this is possible.

Placing a player sandwiched between Sparta and Usurpers is a VERY BAD IDEA!!!  In fact, having Usurpers in the game at all is a bad idea.  The Alien factions are far more powerful than any other faction, and it is extremely difficult to win against them unless you first have a long time (60+ turns) to make a superior build.

Anyway, does anyone else share a border with Usurpers?  I think the Free Drones may have contact, which may be why they are down so low on the power graph.  I think the only chance we have is for ALL the human players to try to help each other to beat back Usurpers.  Because once they destroy me, I doubt anyone else will survive.

Finally, does anyone have Attack 4 that they can trade or give me, or can anyone research it pretty soon?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 24, 2012, 06:38:05 PM
2138 to  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on December 24, 2012, 08:42:49 PM
I guess I should have given up the usurpers.but maybe you should just ruch to the main iseland.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 25, 2012, 01:07:36 AM
Yeah, I guess I kind of screwed this up.  As soon as Sparta started coming after me, I should have evacuated to the main island.  But early in the game, I thought Hive was waiting for us there.  I did not realize it was an unoccupied (treasure trove?). 

Now I have two SPs built, and I am reluctant to run, and hand them off to Usurpers.  Oh well, maybe the human players will be willing to help me try to fend of Usurpers, or maybe they will just flee.

If I can get 4 attack before the Ogres advance too far, I might be able to eventually stop Usurpers.  Luckily, the AI still plays in a fairly brain dead manner, despite the crushing superiority of forces.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on December 25, 2012, 07:25:15 AM
My foult. I should have though Usurpers would be too much and I took it for granted you'll think about the mail iseland escape.
Any way, since no one player can win the game alone, I guess humans should be help in each other at the beggining to take care of the AI.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on December 25, 2012, 01:58:32 PM
i share borders but i think that the hive might be about to hit me too
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on December 28, 2012, 12:28:17 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 29, 2012, 08:35:39 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on December 29, 2012, 02:36:19 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on December 29, 2012, 04:50:08 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on December 31, 2012, 11:13:07 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 31, 2012, 07:37:56 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on January 01, 2013, 06:46:47 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on January 01, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on January 06, 2013, 12:24:02 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on January 06, 2013, 12:55:52 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on January 06, 2013, 06:56:05 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on January 07, 2013, 11:28:49 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on January 11, 2013, 12:20:17 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on January 11, 2013, 09:13:54 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on January 11, 2013, 11:56:03 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on January 13, 2013, 03:38:54 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on January 20, 2013, 09:28:46 PM
Enough time given. Ill be passing the turn tomorrow.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on January 21, 2013, 12:49:14 PM
 ;zak;

sorry had a few problems
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on January 25, 2013, 08:33:25 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on January 25, 2013, 10:17:51 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on January 25, 2013, 11:58:03 PM
Does anyone have any defensive technology I can trade for?

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on January 27, 2013, 08:14:01 PM
I think you better cooperate with each other. Remeber that there will be no single player victory...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on January 31, 2013, 10:44:09 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on February 01, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 02, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 02, 2013, 06:08:05 PM
 ;domai;

I have to admit I am delightfully puzzled by Marr's reluctance to pound me into the ground.  He keeps sending 3 or so 2/1/2 recon rovers each turn to probe me, which I can easily destroy with no problem.  But he has 2 Orgres, over a dozen more recon rovers, 8 scouts, and has recently build some 4/2/2 rovers and some 4/3r/1 infantry.  He could tear through my defenses like tissue paper, if he hit me with everything he had, but for whatever reason, he is only probing.

I was wondering, is Marr focused on someone else?  Is he destroying the Free Drones?  Is anyone else in contact with Marr?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on February 02, 2013, 11:21:30 PM
 ;zak;

apart from marr deciding to box me in, which ive managed to kinda resist so  i should recover now
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 03, 2013, 12:45:46 AM
Is Marr not actively attacking you at all?

I am killing about 3 units per turn that Marr is sending my way.  I can do this indefinitely, unless he sends an Ogre or a 4/3r/1 infrantry my way, or starts flooding me with most of his rather large army.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on February 03, 2013, 08:13:54 AM
I had to re-load game    because  game crushed

 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on February 03, 2013, 11:06:32 AM
Quote from: Earthmichael on February 03, 2013, 12:45:46 AM
Is Marr not actively attacking you at all?

I am killing about 3 units per turn that Marr is sending my way.  I can do this indefinitely, unless he sends an Ogre or a 4/3r/1 infrantry my way, or starts flooding me with most of his rather large army.
I might have set up their priorities to research instead of attacking. Interesting to check it...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 03, 2013, 11:26:30 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 03, 2013, 11:29:25 AM
Instead Colonel Corazon has the priority to attack with all forces no matter what I am giving her.
You should have changed her priority to research by herself, goddamn  ::)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 03, 2013, 03:39:59 PM
Marr hit me with another 3 recon rovers, which I killed.  I hope he never wises up, since I am on my SECOND sidetrack toward HEC.  I can't seem to get 3 defense to save my life  ;).

I also had early on spent almost all my forces beating back Sparta (before Marr found me), but for some reason they have not attacked any of my cities for the last 5 turns or so.  I don't have Sparta infiltrated (like I do Usurpers), so I have no idea what kind of force they have available.  All Sparta sent at me were 2/1/2 rovers, which my 2 defense in a city is able to handle (just like with Marr, except Marr has now built some 4 attack units).  I also spent my only Ogre hitting back on Sparta.  And I have never given Sparta or Usurpers ANYTHING, because I figure they will just attack anyway, and be more powerful because of my gift.  If you are trying to appease Sparta with gifts, that is a BIG mistake that will end up hurting you (and the rest of us) badly.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 03, 2013, 04:47:46 PM
I think you got no more attacks from Sparta because it's hitting me hard. And now he's coming along with 4/1/2 Rovers and 4/1-Squad. At least, I learned my lesson and will never ever again give 'em anything... :-\
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 03, 2013, 08:02:41 PM
At least with the enemy haviing only 1 defense you can attack with 2/1/2 rovers of your own for active defense.  That is what I do with Marr.  However, Marr has built some /x/3r/x units, and I don't have anything that can penetrate 3r defense.

For what it is worth, I sent two rovers and a worm your way, to see if I can relieve your pain.

If anyone gets HEC, will you PLEASE trade it with me for anything you want.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 03, 2013, 08:53:38 PM
Thx for the help, I appreciate it. If only I would have *rovers* to do like you suggest  :(
Anyhow, if I got HEC I will sent it to you. Just one question, what is it  :-[
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 03, 2013, 10:52:47 PM
Sorry for the acronym.  High Energy Chemistry, provides 3 defense.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on February 04, 2013, 07:53:56 AM
what the HEC? :D
Guys, If the game is too dificult to be fun, I can allways restart it with more docile AI (Or at least without the SPs).
Your suposed to have fun.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 04, 2013, 09:18:00 AM
Oh no, you got me totally wrong. Nothing less fun than a weak and predictive AI. If it is not possible to be swept away by the AI, where's the challenge?
Keep it like this, I won't complain.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on February 04, 2013, 09:27:49 AM
Then have fun grumbling ;)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 04, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
I am a little frustrated by the sidetracks that keep me from getting HEC, but as long as Marr will keep probing (and not all out attacking) for 10 more turns or so, I should be able to get the techs I need to defend myself.

I am glad he is just sending out his daily probes!  No complaint there!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on February 05, 2013, 11:12:07 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on February 06, 2013, 02:21:19 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 06, 2013, 09:49:19 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 07, 2013, 04:21:06 AM
Thanks to Lal for trading me HEC!

Marr came after me with a 4/2/2(3) elite rover this turn!  I took two casualties taking that monster down, but I got rid of it.

I am now open for trading techs with anyone who wants, since I don't have to worry about being slowed down getting HEC.  So message me if you are interested.

I have had Marr infiltrated for some time now, but I just realized the following facts:

1.  Marr's Industry rows are only 6 wide.  He is running Planned, which accounts for 1, but it seems Marr is getting a +3 extra industry bonus.
2.  Marr's Growth rows are only 5 wide.  He is running Planned, which accounts for 2, and the faction bonus is 1, but he seems to be getting an extra +2 Growth bonus
3.  Marr gets 3 free units before he starts getting drones.  On transcend, a faction only gets 1 free unit before drones, which I presume is all of us human players.

As an alien, he already gets a bunch of extra bonuses, such as free recycling centers and a special facility, but this is normal, but makes aliens a quite powerful faction without these 3 extra bonuses above.

And he started with a secret project that puts command centers in all of his bases (which we all knew right away).

I don't know if Sparta and Hive are getting extra bonuses as well, but if so, that could explain why the AI are so much more difficult to handle than expected in this game.

Anyway, just thought you would want to know.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on February 07, 2013, 07:54:50 AM
I dont remember tweeking anything for bonuses...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 07, 2013, 02:36:52 PM
You can open up my Gaia save and take a look at Marr.  I presume you have the password to open it.

Maybe the AI boost is automatic when the human players are transcendent?  I am neither a modder or a moderator, so I have very limited knowledge here.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on February 07, 2013, 05:13:42 PM
Ill look arround.
Maybe it has to do with some tech they have? I certainly did not play with SE settings.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on February 13, 2013, 11:47:11 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on February 14, 2013, 12:48:20 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 14, 2013, 09:06:34 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 15, 2013, 11:42:13 PM
I guess Marr decided to stop goofing around; two Ogres heading my way.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on February 26, 2013, 11:02:17 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on February 27, 2013, 02:45:05 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 27, 2013, 07:35:04 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on February 27, 2013, 08:54:31 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on February 27, 2013, 10:31:44 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on February 28, 2013, 12:11:42 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on February 28, 2013, 08:31:53 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 01, 2013, 04:53:22 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 04, 2013, 11:32:58 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 05, 2013, 07:43:46 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on March 05, 2013, 08:48:36 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 06, 2013, 05:20:03 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 14, 2013, 10:45:00 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 14, 2013, 11:12:20 PM
Demiurg, Please resend  file,  you sent 2150 instead of 2151.

   
Thanks
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 18, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
this time hopefully
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 18, 2013, 10:22:33 PM
Is ok :)

;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on March 18, 2013, 10:40:14 PM
and on  :D
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 19, 2013, 04:09:58 AM
To  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on March 24, 2013, 11:24:55 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on March 26, 2013, 09:31:17 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on March 26, 2013, 10:45:54 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on March 27, 2013, 01:56:30 PM
To  ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 05, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 07, 2013, 01:01:45 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on April 07, 2013, 09:32:10 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 07, 2013, 11:02:46 PM
 ;domai;

Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: demiurg on April 16, 2013, 08:57:30 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on April 16, 2013, 09:51:22 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on April 17, 2013, 10:39:21 PM
Anyone got more than laser weapon to offer. Sparta begins kickin' my ass :-\
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 18, 2013, 03:24:21 AM
Sorry, no weapons techs here yet either.  I have been concentrating on defense.   Defense 3 on good terrain can hold against strength 4 attackers.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 05, 2013, 10:47:23 PM
demiurg, are you there?  It has been weeks!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 05, 2013, 10:53:15 PM
He generally shows up within 24 hours if someone sends him a reminder...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on May 22, 2013, 10:17:07 PM
What happens with this game?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on May 23, 2013, 12:08:26 AM
I guess we're all just waiting... hoping to play on some day... at least I do.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2013, 12:23:03 AM
Has anyone emailed/PMed demiurg?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 23, 2013, 03:42:11 AM
Quote from: BUncle on May 23, 2013, 12:23:03 AM
Has anyone emailed/PMed demiurg?
I PMed demiurg.  I do not have his email address.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 23, 2013, 03:44:24 AM
It's in the MP Addicts Profiles thread - "redmn2121 [curly thing] gmail [dotty thingy] com".  (Take the spaces out, too.)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 23, 2013, 04:32:40 AM
OK, I just sent demiurg an email.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 25, 2013, 06:51:03 PM
You can also just click on a username to get a send PM option in their profile - most people have email notification for PMs on, I hope...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on May 25, 2013, 10:55:13 PM
Yes, I had already done that and PMed demiurge.  I just did not think to look in the MP addicts profile for the email address.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on May 25, 2013, 11:15:28 PM
Well, a great deal of what I do around here that gets things done involves (very gentle & diplomatic) nagging and inhuman persistence...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on June 01, 2013, 01:42:02 PM
OK, enough time given. I could keep pushing the turns doing nothing or ask for replcement and wait. What is your call?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 01, 2013, 02:44:38 PM
The Free Drones are already very weak.  If they do nothing, it will be like just handling them over to the Aliens.  It would be better if someone else could take over.  I will give a replacement player most of my tech to help offset their weak position.  Can an admin give the new player some ECs to help him get on his feet?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on June 01, 2013, 03:12:35 PM
I cant change the game after it started (only by somehow hacking the file, which I dont have time to do). Ill be playing this one , though I cold see in the game that some how it was very week from the beggining.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on June 01, 2013, 03:24:48 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 01, 2013, 04:28:18 PM
Quote from: t_ras on June 01, 2013, 03:12:35 PM
I cant change the game after it started (only by somehow hacking the file, which I dont have time to do). Ill be playing this one , though I cold see in the game that some how it was very week from the beggining.
I will give you some tech on my turn to try to help out; just please don't let the aliens steal it.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on June 01, 2013, 08:17:24 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on June 04, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
  :danc: => ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Buster's Uncle on June 04, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
Does that mean you had a good turn?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 05, 2013, 05:02:40 AM
 ;domai;
I gave you a bunch of tech to try to help you out.  Please don't let the AI steal or trade it.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on June 05, 2013, 04:48:52 PM
@BUncle
No, just happy cause the game is going on.
Ingame I'm under pressure but I hope I can stand it and in the long run...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on June 21, 2013, 11:00:02 AM
turn
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on June 22, 2013, 04:42:27 PM
Turn to  :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on June 23, 2013, 11:06:28 AM
Turned.

I have to annouce that I will be on vacation in the woods from 29th June to 12th July. If would ask to halt the game of if we find a reliable part-time jump-in by another player not involved in this game I would also agree that he could do my turns in order to continue the game.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on June 23, 2013, 09:45:56 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on June 25, 2013, 09:47:48 PM
Quote from: Armageddon on June 23, 2013, 11:06:28 AM
Turned.

I have to annouce that I will be on vacation in the woods from 29th June to 12th July. If would ask to halt the game of if we find a reliable part-time jump-in by another player not involved in this game I would also agree that he could do my turns in order to continue the game.
Anjoy our vacation. I think we can wait.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on June 26, 2013, 11:24:39 PM
to  :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on June 27, 2013, 08:26:34 AM
Sparta sucks!
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on June 28, 2013, 03:09:46 PM
Quote from: Armageddon on June 27, 2013, 08:26:34 AM
Sparta sucks!
They're faling hard on you?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on June 28, 2013, 08:29:44 PM
It seems I need all my efforts to fight 'em back...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on June 29, 2013, 12:42:13 PM
I'm off till July 12th
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 01, 2013, 07:42:07 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on July 05, 2013, 03:26:09 PM
uni
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on July 07, 2013, 03:09:41 PM
to  :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on July 13, 2013, 11:38:33 AM
Thx for waiting ... and on....
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 13, 2013, 06:40:40 PM
I am making a bid for Planetary Governor to infiltrate Sparta, to see if I have enough force to make a run on Sparta.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on July 13, 2013, 09:46:20 PM
Well, it is either you or Bari, so you'll get the info any way.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on July 15, 2013, 07:46:12 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on July 15, 2013, 07:57:58 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 15, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
Thanks for electing me.  Here is what I found out from infiltration:

As you probably know, all of the AI factions cheat horribly.  They manufacture with at least +3 industry bonus more than they are entitled to, have minimal drone worries, grow super fast, etc.

Usurpers have 10 Cities, and are by far the most powerful.  If you want details, let me know, and I will give next time.  I am currently at War with Usurpers, and they replace units so fast that even with better strategy, I am hard pressed to hold them back.  Who else is at war with Usurpers?

Hive has 6 cities.  I have no contact with Hive.  If anyone wants details, let me know, and I will give next time.

Sparta has only 4 cities.  Here are the details:
Fort Superiority 4-3r-1.  This is my current target.  I think I can take this city in 2 turns.
Sparta Command 4-34-1, 1-3r-1, 1-3r-1.  A bit of a defense, and I don't know where it is.
Blast Rifle Crag 1-1-2, 1-3r-1.  I don't know where this city is either.
Defensive Freehold 1-3r-1.  I hope Lal can move against this city!  Are you interested, Lal?  If you are not going to join the fight against Sparta, I am going to back off, because I don't want to fight a 2 front war unless I have help.

That's the gist of it.  If you want other information, just ask, and I will give whatever details you want.

 ;domai; turn
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on July 15, 2013, 10:37:54 PM
Thx for the information.
I fought Sparta back right this turn, and got now Weapon-4, so he's withdrawing. I will build up my attack forces now and will hopefully get into the Spartan territory the next five turns. So hold on, and we will eliminate that Sparta threat. Anyhow, you may concentrate on your other front, because I hope I can handle Sparta, if you just hold them back at your frontier.
I will move against Freehold.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 16, 2013, 02:21:45 AM
I will hopefully be able to take Fort Superiority, and will just try to hold the city, leaving the rest of Sparta to you.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on July 16, 2013, 10:36:10 PM
Im just building my self to stend the Usurpers, The drones had too few cities. But at least for now, no usurpers arround.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on July 18, 2013, 02:22:13 PM
 :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on July 18, 2013, 08:51:52 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 23, 2013, 01:37:47 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on July 24, 2013, 09:39:34 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on July 24, 2013, 10:57:47 PM
 :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on July 26, 2013, 06:18:22 PM
Turned
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 27, 2013, 02:09:36 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on July 27, 2013, 06:46:41 AM
Turn  ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on July 27, 2013, 04:58:16 PM
I had a problem,the game twice crashed, the problem is the construction of a secret project.

Does someone else this happened or something similarly?

to  :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on July 28, 2013, 11:27:45 AM
no problems
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on July 29, 2013, 01:56:29 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 03, 2013, 08:06:56 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 03, 2013, 08:45:09 AM
 :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 03, 2013, 05:30:07 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 04, 2013, 12:33:15 AM
Usurpers are pushing hard, but I think I can stop them.  I pulled back from Sparta, to focus on Usurpers.  I am still wiping out Spartan rovers probing my south side, but am taking very few casualties.  I wish I could say the same for the Usurpers.  We are trading of 3-4 casualties per turn, on each side.  I am defending with cheap 2-row 1-3-1 defenders and counter attacking with cheap 2-row, 6-1-1 attackers, but Usurpers build 40% faster than they should be building, based on their society!

I have my energy 100% focused on labs at the moment, hoping to beat the Usurpers with a tech advantage.

 ;domai;

Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 04, 2013, 09:36:20 AM
I am starting to invade Spartan territory, hoping to release you from that pressure as soon as possible.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 05, 2013, 08:45:04 PM
THe Userpers are not attacking me ritgh now. and I hope it stays this way long anough for me to build myself. The Drones only had 4 cities, so Im right now adding a few more.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 07, 2013, 06:28:11 AM
  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 07, 2013, 10:18:07 PM
Sparta got only few cities, but produces units like hell heck, it seems...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 08, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
I think all of the AI cheat like crazy.  They seem to have at least +3 production and +2 growth more than can be accounted for by any possible society choices.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 08, 2013, 09:27:19 PM
Quote from: Earthmichael on August 08, 2013, 03:56:52 PM
I think all of the AI cheat like crazy.  They seem to have at least +3 production and +2 growth more than can be accounted for by any possible society choices.
I enhanced AI and made them aggresive, but I have no idea how I did THIS.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 09, 2013, 09:24:33 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 11, 2013, 05:13:46 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 12, 2013, 02:12:37 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 12, 2013, 09:23:31 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 12, 2013, 10:30:58 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 12, 2013, 10:57:26 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 14, 2013, 04:32:14 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 14, 2013, 07:50:05 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 14, 2013, 08:41:09 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 14, 2013, 08:44:09 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 15, 2013, 05:45:26 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 16, 2013, 01:51:07 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 16, 2013, 10:12:39 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 17, 2013, 09:42:06 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 18, 2013, 11:28:41 AM
 ;domai;

Are we allowing the use of Copters in this game?  In many games I play, Copters are banned.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 18, 2013, 01:00:37 PM
Copters?? I am on my way to Rovers and still longing...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 20, 2013, 08:24:28 AM
We didnt ban them in the setting, so I think its OK.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 24, 2013, 10:45:38 PM
I guess the turn is with demiurg.  Please play; I did not mean to stop the game for my question.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 25, 2013, 05:36:18 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Dio on August 25, 2013, 05:47:52 PM
 ;popcorn
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 25, 2013, 07:26:19 PM
Bon appettite
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 25, 2013, 08:33:34 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 25, 2013, 09:16:44 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 26, 2013, 02:22:30 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 27, 2013, 09:47:26 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 27, 2013, 03:51:27 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 27, 2013, 11:00:13 PM
I captured a Spartan city, but on the other side Yang is invading my territories. Hoping to hold him back...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 28, 2013, 02:05:13 AM
I destroyed a Spartan city that was encroaching on my territory from the South.

I forgot to mention about Cloudbase Academy nearing completion.  Well, it is completed now.

I finally have Usurpers on the defensive!  They build a ton of units (due to the ramping up [cheating] industrial capability), but I am mowing them down now.  I expect to capture a Usurper city in 3 turns.

I have no contact with Hive, no clue where they are.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 29, 2013, 01:28:49 PM
I am at war with Hive. began aggressively attacking me, rover 4-1-2 and 1-3-1 infantry, for now no big deal, I plan to go on the attack in the next turn.

Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 29, 2013, 11:00:32 PM
Im not at war right now fisically, but somehow the spartans contacted me and declared vendeta.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 30, 2013, 03:04:08 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on August 30, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on August 30, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on August 31, 2013, 11:44:50 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on August 31, 2013, 02:38:33 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 01, 2013, 10:10:16 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 02, 2013, 06:18:03 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 05, 2013, 05:54:59 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 06, 2013, 02:54:06 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 07, 2013, 10:41:13 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 08, 2013, 12:59:47 AM
I reloaded after a crash.  I don't reload after battles; this turn, I lost 2 battles after reloading where the odds were in my favor, and I won them the first time, but I have to reload after a crash, and subsequently lost the battles.  So the reload was not done to help me; it ended up turning me.

Would it mess up the game if we all moved to Yitzi's patch?  It seems to have fewer bugs/crashes.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 08, 2013, 07:38:29 PM
I fear of moving to a different patch in midgame, spcially because I think that I know remember somthing Yitzi said about keeping data in the sav file in a different way (I I should have remembered this when you and Ronin moved to the patch...)
And if you lost a battle you won I think it would be fair to let you replay.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 11, 2013, 08:35:09 PM
It is the nature of crashes.  If I had previously lost the battle, but crashed, and then won, I would have kept the won result, because the crash was not my fault, and otherwise, it would require more reloads for me to lose.

In this case, I had won a battle, then crashed, then lost, so I keep the lost result, just as I would have kept the won result earlier.  Because otherwise would require more reloads.  I don't think we want to go there.  I do sometimes save a checkpoint in a very long turn if I am about to do something risky like popping a pod which could wipe out all civilization with a tidal wave.  Then if disaster strikes, I can reload to the moment before, with nothing lost.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 11, 2013, 10:00:07 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 12, 2013, 07:51:42 PM
I agree with EM and I would suggest that everyone moved to last Yitzi's patch

 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 12, 2013, 11:05:46 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 13, 2013, 01:20:15 AM
Gaia announces that the Cyborg Factory is nearing completion.

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 13, 2013, 03:05:19 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 13, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 14, 2013, 12:30:04 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 14, 2013, 02:26:49 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 14, 2013, 07:05:16 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 14, 2013, 10:09:06 PM
 ;lal;

i have one reload, due to crash game.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 14, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
roninscg, did you email the file?  It did not post.

Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 14, 2013, 10:55:47 PM
Quote from: Earthmichael on September 14, 2013, 10:34:35 PM
roninscg, did you email the file?  It did not post.
Now I have upload,
I experienced collapse of the game, and then I did not immediately played, and I thought I did, just before I was about to send turn, I realized that I have not played a turn :-)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 15, 2013, 12:12:44 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 15, 2013, 01:19:46 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 18, 2013, 09:27:03 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 18, 2013, 11:02:22 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 19, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
Sparta got one city left  due to strong peacekeeping forces :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 20, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Could someone please email me this save at [redacted before bots see]    ;  I tried 3 different browsers and cannot download it; it is always interrupted far short of the full save.  It may be a restriction of the hospital network I am logged into.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 20, 2013, 06:46:33 PM
Quote from: Earthmichael on September 20, 2013, 05:35:40 PM
Could someone please email me this save at [redacted before bots see]   ;  I tried 3 different browsers and cannot download it; it is always interrupted far short of the full save.  It may be a restriction of the hospital network I am logged into.
Send by emeil to you  :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 21, 2013, 04:39:07 AM
Thank you for the relay!

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 21, 2013, 07:11:23 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 21, 2013, 07:18:50 AM
Well...It seems the AI was not string anough after all ;)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 21, 2013, 10:12:00 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 21, 2013, 01:50:09 PM
Quote from: Armageddon on September 19, 2013, 11:19:13 PM
Sparta got one city left  due to strong peacekeeping forces :danc:
I have been destroying the occasional Sparta unit as well to help out.  I think I killed at least 15 total Sparta units.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 21, 2013, 10:33:45 PM
Yes, of course, I know. It wasn't meant that serious  ;)
And on...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 22, 2013, 12:27:15 AM
I am just glad you are getting rid of the Spartan nuisance once and for all!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 22, 2013, 01:13:36 AM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 22, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 22, 2013, 11:07:09 PM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 23, 2013, 10:40:21 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on September 24, 2013, 12:20:55 AM
I really have the Usurpers on the ropes now.  If you are still being bothered by them, I would be surprised.  I would think they would be 100% concentrated on defense right now.  I took another 3 of their cities this turn.

One think I think is weird is that you can never capture a Usurper city of size other than 1.  If the city is larger, then a bunch of colony pods flee the city, reducing it to size 1.  So you always have to grow the cities from size 1.

Anyway, I should be done finishing off Usurpers in another 3 turns or so.  Sparta is no longer a threat.  Does anyone need some help with the Hive?

Once we eliminate the highly cheating AI players, what is supposed to be the purpose of the game after that?  Are we to try to achieve ascension?  It says specifically that we are not trying to achieve a conquest victory, so I have been fairly freely trading conquest tech to fellow human players.  Are we now supposed to win by ascension, economic victory, or  planetary vote?

 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on September 24, 2013, 08:49:58 PM
I think we should go for those kind of victories to have a new goal.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on September 30, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
I think the only strait foward "pair victory of two humans which can not be military" is diplomatic victory. Although maybe if two player run to tracendence (or money) together, that might be enough. Although then we need to have amechanism to state the second winner. Lets say that there is (of course) one winner wich is ovius and the second has to be one (and the only one) that was at least 10 turns before victory pacted to the winner.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on September 30, 2013, 09:37:24 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on October 04, 2013, 06:38:40 PM
Gonna play as soon as possible, the latest Sunday evening. Sorry!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on October 06, 2013, 01:52:49 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on October 06, 2013, 11:07:02 PM
 ;domai;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 19, 2013, 04:12:21 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on October 20, 2013, 07:15:15 AM
 ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on October 20, 2013, 10:31:27 AM
Thanks to our troops and the help of our allies and friends, the notorious and peace-hating leader of the Spartans, Colonel Santiago, has been captured and sent into long-life prison within our library consisting of the works and writings of Mahatma Gandhi.
And on...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 21, 2013, 09:26:14 PM
 :danc:
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 26, 2013, 06:25:00 PM
I'll try to find replacement (at leats a temporal one for EM.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 27, 2013, 09:33:41 PM
Lets wellcome Borther Geo to the team!
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on October 27, 2013, 10:21:34 PM
Hi all. Just received the password from t_ras. I'll forward the turn tomorrow afternoon.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on October 28, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
Btw, can somebody tell me what version of SMACX this game is played with? Yitzi's patch, Kyrub's, Scient's, base version?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 28, 2013, 09:43:14 PM
Scient
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on October 29, 2013, 09:30:41 PM
Thanks.

Over to the Drones.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on October 30, 2013, 09:56:10 PM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 03, 2013, 07:04:36 AM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 03, 2013, 11:31:40 AM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on November 03, 2013, 12:33:53 PM
;domai;'d
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on November 04, 2013, 08:41:17 AM
 ;zak;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on November 04, 2013, 01:56:47 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on November 04, 2013, 11:24:59 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on November 05, 2013, 04:13:45 PM
To the :mad:.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 06, 2013, 04:21:52 PM


Hi, guys,
 I'm back  :)

I had to urgently take a trip outside the country,  just today I got the internet,
I'm really sorry, I could not earlier to report




Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on December 07, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
I seem to have aproblem posting, so mail. BTW is it only me with the problem?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on December 07, 2013, 10:20:31 PM
You mean attaching things in your posts?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 13, 2013, 05:28:07 PM
T_ras, send me turn via email
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on December 16, 2013, 09:00:17 PM
Mailed
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 17, 2013, 07:10:35 PM
to Lal
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on December 17, 2013, 07:16:11 PM
:stickpoke: Must start to pay attention to this thread again...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on December 17, 2013, 08:37:50 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on December 18, 2013, 07:36:12 PM
The Usurpers have been annihilated.

;domai;'d
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on December 21, 2013, 06:28:25 PM
mailed
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on December 21, 2013, 10:11:12 PM
to  ;lal;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on January 03, 2014, 07:33:40 PM
 ;deidre;
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on January 04, 2014, 12:58:51 PM
 ;domai;

You'll see a reload warning. I forgot the correct password and had to quit the game to look it up.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on January 11, 2014, 04:33:19 PM
And nobody points out I totally forgot to attach the turn. :P
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Kirov on April 08, 2014, 08:19:34 PM
How many of you guys are still interested in continuing this game? I'm afraid both t_ras and ronin won't be able to play anytime soon...
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on April 08, 2014, 08:34:30 PM
Still there and still interested.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Kirov on April 08, 2014, 08:48:13 PM
As far as I can see, the situation is as follows, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ronin (MIA) - Univ
Arma (still around) - Lal
Geo (still around) - Gaians
t_ras (MIA) - Domai

And t_ras is the CMN, right? Can you tell me in a few words what the in-game situation is? Have you already paired up as I see it on the first page? Can I ask you to grab a screenshot with the powergraph and secret projects, so that it's easier to find a replacement?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on April 08, 2014, 09:22:50 PM
Frankly, I don't really consider this to be "my" game. Just inherited it from EM I think.
Gaians (the faction I'm playing) look about top in this game, AI Marr was eradicated and there doesn't seem to be a purpose anymore.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Earthmichael on April 08, 2014, 09:30:45 PM
For what its worth, I am out of the hospital and can play again, if needed.  I think Gaians were doing really well when I had to leave.  But it looks like Geo is still around, so let me know if you want me to take back the Gaians. 
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Kirov on April 08, 2014, 09:32:00 PM
I see. You mentioned it's down so I thought it's not over yet. But Arma seems to think there is a point in playing on. So maybe you guys can decide if we revive this game or declare Gaia the winner?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on April 09, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
Take over any time you like, EM. :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Armageddon on April 10, 2014, 11:15:30 PM
I go fine with both options: continue the game or declare Gaians the deserved winner.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Kirov on April 11, 2014, 04:56:05 PM
Can you post a screenshot with the powerchart from the game? Although from what you say, it seems this game is over and we better think of another one.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on May 18, 2014, 04:59:35 PM
Im back, but will have to wait and see for ronin
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on May 22, 2014, 07:50:08 AM
OK, It seems we dont have Ronin, so it if EM is willing to step in he can chose either get his old faction or take over
Ronin.
Geo - Will you be wiling to switch faction if required?
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on May 22, 2014, 11:34:13 AM
No, I'm about go start in a new game, and that will use up my available time.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on May 22, 2014, 01:09:23 PM
Enjoy :)
Ill post for replacement later.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: JoGr223 on January 18, 2022, 09:39:31 PM
Quote from: Geo on January 11, 2014, 04:33:19 PM
And nobody points out I totally forgot to attach the turn. :P

whats password for this game ? I'd like to check it :)
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: t_ras on January 19, 2022, 10:14:51 AM
I dont remember any more
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on January 19, 2022, 02:24:17 PM
Neither do I. Eight years is a bit too long for that kind of thing.
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: roninscg on January 19, 2022, 04:16:14 PM
Lol😂😂😂😂
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: JoGr223 on January 20, 2022, 04:55:36 PM
Quote from: Geo on January 19, 2022, 02:24:17 PM
Neither do I. Eight years is a bit too long for that kind of thing.
protip: have single password for everything  8) I never forget my password !
Title: Re: A world full of surprises
Post by: Geo on January 21, 2022, 03:31:49 PM
Thanks, but no thanks.
I recon hackers are way too experienced these days and can fish passwords out of old saves.
I refuse to take the risk.
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