Alpha Centauri 2

Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri & Alien Crossfire => Command Nexus => Topic started by: Kirov on December 02, 2014, 07:32:04 PM

Title: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 02, 2014, 07:32:04 PM
This is the thread for the HtH between Metalleater (Aki-Zeta) and MallaxOZ (Morgan).

The setup thread is here:
http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=13518.0 (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=13518.0)

Please use the latest Yitzi's patch, which is 3.3b.

There are no supply pods, as this is how I understood No Unity Scattering ON option selected by Metalleater. Also, there is no Monsoon Jungle on the map.

The map is asymmetrical but hopefully somewhat balanced (kudoz for ete). Bear in mind this is actually my first MP game created, so feedback is welcome and indeed recommended. Just be constructive with your criticism, I'm touchy.

Take it away, gentlemen, and break each other's bones. Don't be fooled by our impeccable manners on this forum, you're put in a cage and only one can get out on his own. So go for it and show no mercy.

I wish you both good luck and a heap of fun!
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Kirov on December 02, 2014, 07:32:32 PM
First turn to Metalleater.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on December 15, 2014, 07:10:40 PM
Metal, you still up for this game?
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 03, 2015, 12:11:34 PM
Malla, are you here? Do you want me to ask binTravkin to replace Metall?
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 03, 2015, 03:37:06 PM
I'm here. I think MetallEater is no longer on the forum, so yeah, let's find a replacement.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 07, 2015, 06:04:52 PM
Let's get it moving. :)

To  ;morgan;

Notes:
1) Reload. Sorry for that, I have two smax installations and forgot to reboot before opening this, so all units were "moved" again.

2) I have Morgan commlink. Are we allowed contact and trade before meeting each other?

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 05:01:51 PM
=>  ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Kirov on July 10, 2015, 05:13:42 PM
2) I have Morgan commlink. Are we allowed contact and trade before meeting each other?

Nope, it's just there due to that variable in alphax.txt.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 05:15:29 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 06:09:14 PM
=>  ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 06:32:47 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 06:47:07 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 06:50:30 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 06:56:48 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 06:58:51 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 07:04:57 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 07:07:55 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 07:27:30 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 07:29:46 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 07:48:59 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 07:56:06 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 10, 2015, 08:17:53 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 10, 2015, 08:59:09 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 12:09:14 AM
"Folks! 10 years have passed since our arrival, we established a base, explored the area. OK. What's the plan for the 10 years to come?"
— CEO, we think we have to establish another base, in order to maximise our sales. We could create a vacation center in mountains, or a marina near the Ocean.
— OK, sounds good. Let's build both. What about ressources exploitation?
— We found a way to consume the squares around the base. The food is not as delicious as the meals we had on Earth. Maybe we'll need some TV commercials to sweeten the pill.
— Go ahead. Jack, anything in the research department?
— Yes, CEO. We work on a project to entertain the city. Workers are pretty bored, and we fear that in the future, boredom will become anger, and this leads to sales reductions. We'll come up with a solution soon.
— Alright, get back to work. Thanks everybody, good job. Meeting adjourned!"

-- Meeting Anthology, 2110, #1 bestseller, available only for 20,00 EC

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 07:48:11 AM
Those first 10 years passed like a breeze, didn't they?  :)

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 09:49:25 AM
With a 10 turns a day pace, a gentle summer breeze indeed!

=>  ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 10:32:27 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 11:52:52 AM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 01:07:15 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 01:20:32 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 01:30:45 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 01:47:03 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 01:50:03 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 03:18:45 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 04:00:32 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 04:17:38 PM
Worm Up®, the brand new energy source of Chiron!
From a revolutionary process, our engineers are making a new world: organic energy. The worms found on the surface on Chiron are the new power! Solar power are so 2110…
Make this happen today, call 888-999-WORMUP, and get a share in our venture!

-- TV commercial on CIC, Chiron-Investment Channel.

They never succeeded to produce energy. They just murdered a scout team, and try to be enthousiast about it, that's all.
-- Anonymous unhappy citizen

 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 05:44:21 PM
Lol, bloody capitalists.

I will have to think of some RP too.
Been quite uneventful thusfar.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 06:02:28 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 06:11:20 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 06:25:33 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 06:33:03 PM
I don't know but I've been told,
Aki's got a Network Node.
Likes to press the on-off switch,
Dig that crazy cyberwitch!

-- Data Angel folk song



My HQ base had so little growth (-2 after all), I had to build something to not spam a half dozen scouts.  ::)

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 07:02:39 PM
Roze's powergraph is cracking up the sky. I wonder what she's up to.

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 07:26:51 PM
 ;morgan;

Hahaha, I finished that node, but forgot my ECs are @ 0 with 0 growth.
So it overloaded and was destroyed.  ::)
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 07:43:59 PM
 ;aki;

I hope you were covered by insurance. If not, let me send you a sales brochure of Morgan Inc., I'm pretty sur infrastructure overload is 100% covered.*

* Under conditions. This is not applying to Network Node, Children's Creche and Energy Bank.
The refund will take place in the next 10 years. The incident has to be reported in the seven days after the overload, in order to be covered.
Morgan Inc. reserves the right not to compensate factions with whom she has a vendetta
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 08:18:15 PM
Yea, it covered like 50% of the costs, so it's not all that bad. :)

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 08:29:02 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 11, 2015, 08:32:01 PM
My last turn today.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 11, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
"OK Jack, let's begin. What's on the menu today?
— We finally achieved our goal, CEO!
— All right! So what's up?
— Our marketing team have just found a way to understand how the brain works, and thus how the brain is reacting to ads & promotions. We are now able to forecast if a product is going to be a hit or not!
— Yeah, good job bro'. How about the immediate results?
— Massive, CEO. We just launched a new product, and we are already sold out. The equivalent of several years of R&D saved up!

=>  ;aki;

Good timing, I could not play another turn today either. Not sure I will be able to play in the next few days (vacations), but I think I'll try to install SMAX on my laptop, as being a sluty capitalist is a fine way to take a break from work!
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 11, 2015, 08:52:40 PM
...SMACX fits on and can be run directly from a modern thumb/flash drive, I'm told...
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 12, 2015, 06:06:59 AM
MallaxOz, I think you forgot to attach the turn. :)

IIRC SMAX works without installation, just copy the folder.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 12, 2015, 08:45:12 AM
Oops, here it is.

I'm on mac os x, that's why I'm worry about. But acccording to GOG, even my five year old macbook should handle it.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 12, 2015, 08:53:28 AM
Base game should work, but you may need to check about patches.
I think by default, Yitzi is only patching the Windows version.
Not sure if unpatched game creates any problems though.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 12, 2015, 07:38:22 PM
My laptop fans go crazy, the screen resolution is not great, but I was able to play :)

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 12, 2015, 07:48:17 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 12, 2015, 09:26:33 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 06:36:00 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 10:06:39 AM
I attempted to fix resolution screen a few times, so you'll be notified that I loaded the file several times.
I did not succeded though, but that's fine, I can play in a small resolution for a week.

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 10:17:42 AM
No worries, I got one too. Keep forgetting to reboot pc every now and then.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
=> ;aki;

Idea: create memorial for scout team destroyed by worms, museum, restaurants and shops.
Pros: compassion can create sales and donations. Figurines of soldiers are the most profitable goodie, and however the cheaper to produce.
Cons: If scout teams keep dying on the field, the business could end up with a depressed population, decreasing the sales.
Other comments: One member of the jury highlights the potential immorality of this project. The rest of the jury does not think why on Chiron it could be immoral to make money.

Project Approved by Morgan Inc.
150 EC loan for 30% in equity with stock options, expecting 150% ROI in 3 years.


-- Investment stories, december 2126
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 11:06:56 AM
It is a thought of Earth, the old Earth left behind, with its green forests and blue oceans..

MY 2127: first forest is planted


 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 11:20:20 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 11:25:22 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 11:31:11 AM
=> ;aki;

"CEO, we use every ressource we can, but it's not enough. We are alone, et cannot commerce with anyone. We have to do some agriculture!
— Yuck…
"

MY 2128, an agriculture minister is created, research focusing on terraforming technologies.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 11:35:57 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 11:45:09 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 11:49:25 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 05:02:52 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 06:29:50 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 06:45:09 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 07:09:39 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 07:48:47 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 13, 2015, 08:27:43 PM
Drones start The Merchant Exchange!

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 13, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
A proletarian market? What a funny idea.
Maybe he's trying to generate energy through commerce, to palliate his poorly R&D department…

;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 05:32:19 AM
Strange, one of my farms disappeared without message about spore launcher destroying it (most likely cause).

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 10:11:47 AM
;aki;

Yes, due to multiplayer mode, we don't see things like this. It happened to me in another PBEM, and several turns had past before I discovered it!
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 10:28:39 AM
And now it didn't do anything.. Solar collector and road on the same tile was untouched.. Really strange.


 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 11:13:50 AM
My SMACX do not launch anymore… I see no reason why, but I look into it…
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 11:35:54 AM
I don't know why it bugged, but with a few hacks into Wine Emulator, and the game is working again. With a fixed resolution in bonus :)

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 11:42:31 AM
Good to hear that. :)

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 12:25:48 PM
;aki;

Some troubles with spore launcher lately? Morgan Inc. is about to sell a 3D umbrella, which protects you for any spores & pollens. 100% quality! Available in all good stores.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 12:30:37 PM
Haha, I'll pass this time. :)

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 12:48:39 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 12:58:31 PM
Haha, and now the spore launcher is back again.  ::)

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 01:27:06 PM
Apparently this particular spore launcher only has problems with farms..

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 01:41:12 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 01:55:59 PM
And now it destroyed the solar thing too. I guess I should not be saying anything more.  ::)

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 03:24:30 PM
;aki;

It's raining worms! Hallelujah, it's raining worms! Amen!
-- Geri Morganwell, #1 top selling record.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 03:35:59 PM
 :D

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 03:42:25 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 03:56:50 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 04:09:39 PM
Finally found that thing !

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 06:57:25 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 07:18:40 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 07:37:41 PM
;aki;

This game is too quiet. This is not normal. I think the next 20 years will be surprising!
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 07:48:58 PM
Let's hope so :)

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 07:58:06 PM
;aki;

Let's just hope it won't be sealurks anything worm-related surprises :)
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 08:13:31 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 08:53:47 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 09:01:49 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 09:13:27 PM
;domai; build it! And his concern now seems to be the weather.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 14, 2015, 09:25:57 PM
I've always thought of ME as one of the least useful SPs.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 14, 2015, 09:52:35 PM
=> ;aki;

Indeed, just a few energy per turn. Not worth blocking a city for 15 turns. Maybe he does not know what to do with his big industry.
Hey, nice jump on the powergraph for the Cybernetic Cousciousness :)
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 15, 2015, 06:37:41 AM
Ye, I met somebody finally and exchanged tech.

I have 3 reloads, for some reason that's what it took to get the turn opened with units un-moved (without "ALREADY MOVED").
Usually I just reboot and it's ok.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 08:36:54 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 15, 2015, 08:55:26 AM
Alpha Prime base starts the Planetary Transit System!  :o

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 09:14:23 AM
;aki;

CEO, we have to find a way to contact other factions immediately. Rumors tell us that Domaï, the mechanic of the Unity, and his faction the Free Drones have created a Merchant Exchange. They're making commerce, and we are not! Domaï!
— Indeed. What other rumors did you hear?
— Aki, the Cyborg, is said to be going to construct a way to colonize the planet faster, and deploy large city with a single colony pod. Again, large city mean commerce. And it means commerce that we are not part of!
— OK. Change your plans. We have to contact the other ones. What are you researching on?
— I think we have to increase our Mobility to explore more land. And in our fundamental research department…
— Our what??? Just facts, infrastructure, commerce. How fundamental research can do, except for taping in our energy?
— Wait, CEO. We think the discovery of fundamental science can lead to attract scientist to our faction. At least one talent per city, based on prevision.
— Mmmh… I see… that's it, no third idea?
— That's it.
— OK. Let me think… We'll meet again John.
— Sure, CEO.[/ï]

-- Secret Meetings of the Decade, 2150
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 15, 2015, 09:24:20 AM
Alpha Prime finishes The Planetary Transit System!  :o

And I forgot to raise psych to prevent drone riots..  ::)

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 09:38:21 AM
Congrats on your rush to Industrial Automation!

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 15, 2015, 09:47:23 AM
The Cybernetic Consciouness starts Weather Paradigm!

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 07:59:49 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 15, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 08:22:04 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 15, 2015, 08:27:40 PM
Forgot to mention - we built WP, so you are now competing for HGP with Drones.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 15, 2015, 11:40:39 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 16, 2015, 06:22:16 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 16, 2015, 09:11:10 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 16, 2015, 09:31:17 AM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 16, 2015, 09:59:28 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 16, 2015, 10:34:53 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 16, 2015, 03:11:36 PM
;aki;

"John, I just receive the information that Domai just accomplished the decoding of the Human Genome, and his faction receiving a bunch of extra talents! I know fundamental research was a waste of time!
— CEO, keep calm and listen.
— You better come up with a great news.
— I do. The research program I lead was in a dead end on genes mapping. But we discovered some great things. You remembered, when we discover the Secrets of the human brain, sales was coming up, and some scientists was attracted to our job offers. We worked for a long time with them, and even if we didn't succeded to map the human genome, we discovered something very useful: an Empath guild.
— What the f***?! What we'll do with that?
— Psychology is no longer a secret for us. We can decode every symbol, every person. Symbols are the key to telepathy, every faction is no longer secret from us! My team is transferring all of the datas we had gathered so far. It's huge. But I tell you the big part: you can now contact every other faction leader!
— Oooh, yeah, let's get the commerce starting!"


MY 2157, John Ringman & CEO Morgan phone call.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 16, 2015, 03:27:11 PM
Nice one. :)

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 16, 2015, 07:42:18 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 16, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2015, 07:52:08 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 17, 2015, 08:09:35 AM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2015, 12:56:38 PM
"CEO, Aki Zeta of the Cyborgs still waiting for your answer: Domai commlink in exchange for a tech.
— But, you told me it was a low-end tech, right?
— Yes, but a commlink is not really a strategical piece of information either…
— John…
— What? It's just that, I don't know, I think, maybe it would be cool to be friend with Aki.
— Oh yeah, I see you coming John. Blonde hair, tall, smart…
— No way! I kind of like her but…
— Yes way! You dirty [progeny of unmarried parents]! You better stay away, jerk off if you like but don't betray me!
— CEO!!!
— Aaaah, just kidding, relax…
— So, what should we answer?
— Let's do it!… But wait a minute. Then, she will own all of the commlink?
— That's right CEO, and she might summon a planetary council. And she's competing with us in a case of Planetary Governor election.
— I prefer set the time of the council, in order to review some of my speech. Fine if she get the crown, but at least, I'll be at ease for the videoconference. You know what, after finishing with your Blonde, prepare the Council.
— Alright!
"

MY 2160, John Ringman Memoires
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Buster's Uncle on July 17, 2015, 01:06:30 PM
(http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=793.0;attach=15643;image)

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Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 17, 2015, 02:06:23 PM
CyCon women find reproduction.. awkward. :P
Even their good looks are just to make humans more cooperative. ;)

MallaxOz, I think that's the wrong file.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2015, 02:35:14 PM
Sorry => new file
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 17, 2015, 02:59:30 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2015, 03:10:04 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 17, 2015, 03:52:44 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2015, 05:53:24 PM
If play you want, charge you must.
-- Chinese-cookie proverb

Ran out of battery, had to retake my turn to finish it.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 17, 2015, 06:14:02 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 17, 2015, 06:38:32 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 17, 2015, 06:59:32 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 18, 2015, 08:05:35 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 18, 2015, 08:25:03 AM
1 reload. Had to reload and do one action again to check if it's a glitch or indeed not possible.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 19, 2015, 10:45:18 AM
I load the wrong the save and quit, so you will have the extra load window again. Your file is named 2166, but my turn was 2165, that's why I made the mistake.

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 19, 2015, 11:13:31 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 19, 2015, 11:27:03 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 19, 2015, 11:40:16 AM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 19, 2015, 12:01:35 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 19, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 19, 2015, 12:46:56 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 19, 2015, 01:13:31 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 19, 2015, 04:58:28 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 19, 2015, 07:49:43 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 19, 2015, 09:04:03 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 20, 2015, 05:36:55 AM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 20, 2015, 06:41:52 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 20, 2015, 07:02:24 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 20, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 20, 2015, 07:37:06 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 21, 2015, 10:17:52 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 21, 2015, 11:08:10 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 21, 2015, 12:04:32 PM
I'm still encountering issues with my SMACX installation, it keeps bugging me. This time, the map was dezoomed, I had to relaunch. I'm sick of it! I'm back to my home in a couple of days, so I'll wait until then to play my next turns.

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 21, 2015, 01:30:52 PM
PRAX glitches even on Windows, so I imagine it's even worse on Vine.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 10:57:04 AM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 12:10:25 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 01:54:23 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 02:21:16 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 05:23:08 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 05:54:02 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 06:37:02 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 07:54:38 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 08:16:47 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 08:43:22 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 08:59:33 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 09:11:31 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 23, 2015, 09:23:22 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 23, 2015, 09:24:18 PM
Gonna play tomorrow again. It's a bit late here.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 24, 2015, 07:36:24 AM
1 reload due to a glitch. Have trouble moving units near edge of map for some reason.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 24, 2015, 09:59:37 AM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 24, 2015, 11:09:47 AM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 24, 2015, 12:04:52 PM

...and to finish this report, we are proud to announce that, this year once again, we are still the #2 economic power of the Planet, behind the numerous Cyborgs.
>>> applause <<<

Ah... One more thing...
We're happy to announce the launch of the Morgan Watch! Dynamic screen with wordwide online games. Play 4D-Chess with our fellow citizens of the University, or the educative game Chronicle-Recycle with some Gaïan kids! Available in all Morgan stores in the world, except in North Korea Hive territory.

Delivery time may vary depending on the faction. To fulfill orders, speed up the deliveries and make this magic happen, Morgan Inc. made a UN proposal to create a global market pact.
Thanks you all for listening! For all guests and journalists: a buffet is waiting for you in the auditorium.

Morgan Inc. ||| Enjoy Life


=>  ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 24, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
Nice one. Too bad nobody wants to trade with me..  ::)

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 24, 2015, 04:33:05 PM
Too powerful, too scary, no commerce ;aaa

 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 24, 2015, 07:25:19 PM
Piracy is on the rise in the contested waters between Data Angel and Cybernetic territory.
After numerous infiltrations of Data Angel networks by a group called "Buccaneer State of Mare Nostrum", their activities seem to be escalating with latest loss of Morgan Inc cutter to a pirate boarding party.

- Planetary News Network, MY 2185


 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
OK... I think the nexts decades are going to be fun. And maybe a little bit exhausting ;morganercise

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 25, 2015, 12:19:59 PM
Yea. I already feel it, having to move all those formers and crawlers..

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 02:29:13 PM
having to move all those formers and crawlers..

..and missile invaders  :hunter:

=> ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 25, 2015, 02:40:04 PM
That's a misnomer.
We prefer to call those forces Cybernetic Peacekeeping Corps.
They exist to prevent irrational humans from disturbing our rational ways.
War is a waste.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 02:54:52 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 25, 2015, 04:22:52 PM
Due to decades old hostilities between Hive and Data Angels which disrupt trade and cooperation on planetary scale, Cybernetic Consciouness decided to mediate in the conflict.
The Data Angel and Hive leadership were sent an invitation to cease fire and start talks on peaceful resolution of the conflict.
However, both factions have refused the offer.
This has forced the Cybernetic forces to establish a "no sail zone" in waters between the rival factions as well as disarm their front-line forces.
Citizens of Data Angel settlements, tired of decades of bloodshed, hardship and other inefficiencies are rioting and expressing their wish to join the Cybernetic faction, renowned for it's paradigm economy as well as peaceful and rational ideology.

-- Planetary News Network, MY 2188


 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 04:50:14 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 25, 2015, 06:39:50 PM
 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 07:01:33 PM
;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 25, 2015, 07:45:17 PM
 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 08:17:28 PM
;aki;

An extra reload, due to a luckless  + Q.
I don't think of anything that would change the future of the game anyway…  :ches:
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 25, 2015, 08:52:48 PM
Peace at last!
Data Angels and Hive have agreed to make peace with each other and Cybernetic Consciouness.
Additionally, Hive has made peace with Gaians and University.
It all sounds well, but meanwhile hostilities have erupted between Cybernetic forces and Morganites due to the latter's war on Hive.
Peacekeeping operation continues..

Planetary News Network, MY 2191


My last turn today.

 ;morgan;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 25, 2015, 09:03:08 PM
Now it's even clearer. Roze was my best ally, and you turned her against me. There is no game anymore, you have clearly won this game. Do you want to continue?

;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 26, 2015, 08:42:49 AM
We can end it if you agree to (one of):
A) Exchange passwords
B) Do one more turn and elect me governor

I just want to see your status as I never got around to infiltrating.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 26, 2015, 12:56:33 PM
I understand your curiosity  ;)
Let's go for governor!
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 26, 2015, 04:25:02 PM
Ok, I have convened it.

 ;morgan;

Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 26, 2015, 05:25:48 PM
 ;aki;
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 26, 2015, 05:48:55 PM
I was thinking about going for ICS strategy, since Morgan is one of a best faction for it (with his +1 energy per base, population limit at 4, and -1 SUPPORT). But I made some really [messed up - or loved very much] up choices regarding technology tree, and I get formers late, and with the arid region when I landed, I was not producing enough nutrients to do that. But when I saw you empire as soon as I got your map, I knew that I made a terrible mistake!

But I think ICS is too powerful, and I understand now why Yitzi's patch is aiming to change the rule. With a police scout + the PTS, you eliminate 3 drones, you end up with 3 happy workers and you're good to go. It's too easy, as bureaucraty should create 5-6 drones. And as we could see on the psy screen, it was in fact superdrones in bright red. There is a line in the alphax.txt file of Yitzi's patch where we're able to, as far as I understand it, change that rule, and when a drone is removed, the "phantom-drone" is not.

It would be interesting to test, but I don't play enough to be sure about what I just said. Is someone watching this thread has his 2 cents to throw in on this matter?
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 26, 2015, 06:57:50 PM
Yeah, in MP it's like you either ICS or early popboom, otherwise you're falling behind rapidly.
Same with Centaury Ecology->Industrial Automation.
Pretty much "Do or die" except some special situations.
Your dash for Empath Guild was good, but perhaps not for Morgan.
If I was Data Angels or Peacekeepers, I would probably do it.

It's already possible to limit ICS by altering the drone rules in .ini.
Problem with those is that they don't get embedded into save game, so it's really difficult to control (at least until you have infiltration).

However, if ICS is disabled then factions that are unable to popboom should also not be in game:
 - CyCon
 - Hive
 - Pirates

Morgan has problems popbooming too due to poplimit, so he'd be at a disadvantage as well.

As for CyCon, since they cannot popbpoom, ICS is really the only strategy for them.
And since they have lowered growth, PTS is top priority project.
Take PTS from CyCon and CyCon is in trouble (if you're also popbooming or ICSing).
Hive can ICS quite well without PTS due to growth bonuses.
Pirates can ICS without PTS since they (can) have more nutrients if played properly.

Anyways, I see that you already managed to build some army and fleet.
I think I took you by surprise by mass-instabuild using crawlers, didn't I? :)
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 26, 2015, 07:15:50 PM
Oh yes, a very good move you did. Even if I lost, it was one of the best games I had to play! I did not play Morgan for a long time. Get the +1 energy per square without running Free Market is fun. Even if during the whole game, I waste it, as I was already on the Pholus Ridge, and was limited to +2 energy per square since I never had the time to discover the adequate techno. The IA faction are, like always, too weak, but still.

I know how important is to get Industrial Automation. I think PTS and crawlers are the corner stone of colonization. But I screwed up big time in early game. Empath Guild was a lesser evil, not really a choice. I managed to have some good commerce, and if I got the Planetary Energy Grid, the game may have change a bit, even if Cyborgs would have overwhelmed me notwithstanding. If Domaï had the time to finish it before you, all my 5-1-2 and ?-?-1 were ready to take it, with the Human Genome Project (and the useless Merchant Exchange) in bonus  :P
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on July 26, 2015, 07:34:20 PM
Looking back I could've started conquest earlier too.
I only needed to be more aggressive with foil probes and go on rampage immediately after building MCC and getting Nonlinear Math.

To counter the op-ness of IA and PTS, I think MP games should be blind research.
That would result in need to be much more flexible, plan ahead and actually execute alternative strategies like early popboom and early exploration/pod popping sweeps.

Anyways, this was my first finished SMAX MP game in last 9 or 10 years, so thanks for playing with me! :)
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: MallaxOZ on July 26, 2015, 08:05:26 PM
To counter the op-ness of IA and PTS, I think MP games should be blind research.


I concur. I'm playing another PBEM (http://alphacentauri2.info/index.php?topic=16150.0) (a slow one, since we are 5 humans), and blind research is ON. It makes the game much more… well, blind! It's cool, surprising, and undetermined.

If you want to play another game, I'm up for it, even if my turns rate will certainly be a little bit lower, as I have some projects to tackle on IRL.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: Kirov on August 04, 2015, 10:48:51 AM
Oh cool, so you've finished the game. Sorry I was away and didn't keep track, I'll take a look asap. How did you like it? Any specific comments as to the map? Maybe in some time I can do another game for you, but not these weeks I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Smoke and Mirrors - TTT
Post by: binTravkin on August 04, 2015, 11:09:06 AM
I'll have a pause in taking up news PBEMs unless there are people to be replaced.

I was too close to special terrain, I think.
Other than that, the map was good.
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